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Re: 12 Lives #5 - Round 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67217.msg1290750#msg1290750
« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2019, 02:54:55 am »
Am fine with this scenario, and don't care too much about who my opponent will be.
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Re: 12 Lives #5 - Round 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67217.msg1290751#msg1290751
« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2019, 08:15:29 am »
The rule regarding byes has always been that the player with  fewest byes and most lives gets one. Fighting a STANDIN is the worst idea ever.

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Re: 12 Lives #5 - Round 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67217.msg1290755#msg1290755
« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2019, 10:32:28 am »
I am fine with STANDIN as explained by serprex. A bye would completely screw with the odds of winning for all sides. I am not too excited to face ian two times in a row but that concern is secondary.

I am also fine with giving Link a free win. Although, that's not how byes generally work. To me ensuring a fair competition for the top spot takes precedence.

So, I am fine with matching opponent purely by lives remaining, by lives remaining + changing opponents, STANDIN double matches.

Also, I haven't looked at previous events.

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Re: 12 Lives #5 - Round 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67217.msg1290756#msg1290756
« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2019, 11:27:33 am »
I can see the value of serp's idea. My only concern now that we would introduce something not been known before the start
of the event. Rules must be comprehensive and published before the event. There is no mention in the rules what would
happen in case of odd number of players, that's why I thought that we'll follow the example of earlier events.
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Re: 12 Lives #5 - Round 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67217.msg1290757#msg1290757
« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2019, 11:30:05 am »
I can see the value of serp's idea. My only concern now that we would introduce something not been known before the start
of the event. Rules must be comprehensive and published before the event. There is no mention in the rules what would
happen in case of odd number of players, that's why I thought that we'll follow the example of earlier events.


Good luck with that.

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Re: 12 Lives #5 - Round 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67217.msg1290758#msg1290758
« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2019, 12:15:15 pm »
It is the 5th 12 Lives event, and people still ponder what should happen in case of odd number of players?
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Re: 12 Lives #5 - Round 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67217.msg1290763#msg1290763
« Reply #30 on: June 10, 2019, 03:56:25 pm »
I am also fine with giving Link a free win. Although, that's not how byes generally work. To me ensuring a fair competition for the top spot takes precedence.

imo this is the suggestion that makes the most sense in the current situation, although I can definitely see the problem with establishing a presedence for later rounds as the needs and advantages in R5 and R9 are vastly different.
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Re: 12 Lives #5 - Round 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67217.msg1290764#msg1290764
« Reply #31 on: June 10, 2019, 04:07:05 pm »
IMHO, In the current situation, with Linkcat being the only player with 1 life left at the bottom, while at the top having 2 players with same number of lives, it seems more fair to give Linkcat a bye.  Otherwise we get more unbalanced matches.

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Re: 12 Lives #5 - Round 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67217.msg1290766#msg1290766
« Reply #32 on: June 10, 2019, 04:31:04 pm »
With the current PvP Event participation system giving Linkcat a bye can also affect the final standings a lot.
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Re: 12 Lives #5 - Round 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67217.msg1290768#msg1290768
« Reply #33 on: June 10, 2019, 04:33:42 pm »
The player with the least number of lives will get the bye.

 

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