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Other Topics => Forum Archive => World of Elements => Topic started by: Scaredgirl on September 14, 2011, 12:19:36 am
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Ask anything about WoE.
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How will diplomacy work? I mean will any alliances that are made be technically unofficial? Or is there some system that it has to go through?
Ty
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Merchants: can you only buy each specific card in their respective capital city (i.e. only air cards can be bought in cloud city) or can you buy any card in any city?
Quests: Where will we see what quests are available? Will they be in each of our secret sections and we go to our capitals to pick them up or will there be a general running log of available quests and were they can be picked up?
Upgraded Cards: I see we can use 1 upped card corresponding to the mark skill we have. It also seems like we gain upgraded cards based upon level? Or upgrades specifically for the skills we have (i.e. we have 12 life skills, so then we can use up to 13 life upgrades ... accounting for the 1 extra from the mark)?
Team income: It seems like we get income for our team based upon hexes we control. Do we have to use the 'work' action to gain this income? Do we need to go to our capital to pick up our income?
Misc: Can we cross the river running around the map (I understand that the map linked in the unofficial sheet might change) or can we only use the bridges? What happens if you must discard below 30 cards? Are you dead dead? Will there be quest progression that don't involve killing people if we would rather not murder for no good reason?
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If a player is to be kicked out for Incactivity, what is the limit of days/weeks until you are vulnerable?
Reason for me asking is because I have school and heaps of work to do, as well as a few camps here and there...
Thanks!
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Are the various resurrection skills meant to have parity with each other? A self-rez can only affect you, while one person with a targetable rez can basically cover the whole team's rez needs.
What do :earth players do with the relics they dig up? Can you dig up multiple relics in the same location?
Anything the rest of us can do while :aether tests their char sheets?
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First of all, there's no need to worry too much about technical details at this point. Everything will be explained as we go long. First Days of WoE will be tutorial-mode.
How will diplomacy work? I mean will any alliances that are made be technically unofficial? Or is there some system that it has to go through?
Ty
That's a good question. Issue with alliances is that even if we force everyone to use a system, nothing stops them from doing unofficial backroom deals. I think that the best way to do it would be to have a hybrid, so that players are free to do unofficial alliances but doing official ones (with requirements) gives them bonuses.
Because being in an alliance gives you certain advantages, we have to limit them somehow. Teams forming alliances during Day 1 is not really the goal. I was thinking that there should be some kind of requirements that have to be met before two teams can form an alliance. For example there should be a certain number of Days without any PvP battles between them etc.
Merchants: can you only buy each specific card in their respective capital city (i.e. only air cards can be bought in cloud city) or can you buy any card in any city?
Quests: Where will we see what quests are available? Will they be in each of our secret sections and we go to our capitals to pick them up or will there be a general running log of available quests and were they can be picked up?
Upgraded Cards: I see we can use 1 upped card corresponding to the mark skill we have. It also seems like we gain upgraded cards based upon level? Or upgrades specifically for the skills we have (i.e. we have 12 life skills, so then we can use up to 13 life upgrades ... accounting for the 1 extra from the mark)?
Team income: It seems like we get income for our team based upon hexes we control. Do we have to use the 'work' action to gain this income? Do we need to go to our capital to pick up our income?
Misc: Can we cross the river running around the map (I understand that the map linked in the unofficial sheet might change) or can we only use the bridges? What happens if you must discard below 30 cards? Are you dead dead? Will there be quest progression that don't involve killing people if we would rather not murder for no good reason?
Ownership of the City/Town will determine which cards can be bought. Details will be given during Day 1.
We will start with a very simple quest system at first and slowly move to a more complex one. This will be explained later.
Marks actually give you 3 upgraded cards, only Mark of :underworld give your 1 upped card. That is because the latter is special: Use the mark of the element that controls your current hex. If the hex is neutral, you can pick any mark. Additional upgraded cards are gained based on skills. 1 skill from a specific element = 1 upped card of that element.
This is something that will change from what it was earlier. Instead of players gaining revenue, it's the element that gains revenue. With this community pile of cash, teams can do stuff like build castles and put a bounty on their enemies. Players have to work for their own cash, literally. By using "Work" action, they gain cash based on how many hexes their element controls.
You can cross rivers without using a bridge.
If you discard below 30, you need to either wait a bit longer for a resurrection, or reset your character.
Yes, there will be all kinds of quests, not just ones that involve killing. :)
If a player is to be kicked out for Incactivity, what is the limit of days/weeks until you are vulnerable?
Reason for me asking is because I have school and heaps of work to do, as well as a few camps here and there...
Thanks!
There is no specific rule just yet. We'll do it on a case-by-case basis. It depends a lot on previous activity. If you are active at some point, taking a longer break is not a big deal. But if you are never active, then you'll get replaced pretty fast.
Are the various resurrection skills meant to have parity with each other? A self-rez can only affect you, while one person with a targetable rez can basically cover the whole team's rez needs.
What do :earth players do with the relics they dig up? Can you dig up multiple relics in the same location?
Anything the rest of us can do while :aether tests their char sheets?
What rez skills are we talking about here? "cover the whole team's rez needs" might suggests that you have misunderstood how the whole thing works.
Relics can either be sold or used with skills/quests.
Yes. Wait. :)
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what if i have a 4 upped cards in the WoE's account, but dont have enough electrum in the elementsthegame's account to up those cards?
the same about rare cards like weapons
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what if i have a 4 upped cards in the WoE's account, but dont have enough electrum in the elementsthegame's account to up those cards?
the same about rare cards like weapons
Then you cannot use those cards in WoE. It is your responsibility to acquire the cards in Elements. If you don't have them, you cannot use them.
Related to this, if a player is somehow forced to use a card he or she does not own, that card can be replaced with a Quantum Pillar which is basically a "filler" card of WoE.
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I currently have three questions/comments.
:entropy
Are skills considered passive (always active) without a cost?
Confusion: During a battle, your opponent must have at least 3 Quantum Pillars in his or her deck.
It's likely this will be bad if we get a discord, but can be beneficial before rares are affordable.
Trickster: Before a battle, choose 6 elements. Your opponent cannot use a mark from any of those 6 elements.
What if your opponent only has one mark skill? It's likely that when you get this skill others are still focusing "in element" and don't have other marks unlocked yet.
Stellar Radiation: You can use up to 4 copies of the Supernova card during any battle. Cards disappear after the battle.
Are these copies not from your current library?
When it states "Cards disappear" is it referring to the 4 copies of Supernova?
That is all I have from a brief overlook I will try and find anything else unclear or questionable soon.
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I currently have three questions/comments.
:entropy
Are skills considered passive (always active) without a cost?
Confusion: During a battle, your opponent must have at least 3 Quantum Pillars in his or her deck.
It's likely this will be bad if we get a discord, but can be beneficial before rares are affordable.
Trickster: Before a battle, choose 6 elements. Your opponent cannot use a mark from any of those 6 elements.
What if your opponent only has one mark skill? It's likely that when you get this skill others are still focusing "in element" and don't have other marks unlocked yet.
Stellar Radiation: You can use up to 4 copies of the Supernova card during any battle. Cards disappear after the battle.
Are these copies not from your current library?
When it states "Cards disappear" is it referring to the 4 copies of Supernova?
That is all I have from a brief overlook I will try and find anything else unclear or questionable soon.
Skill trees have those triangles below the description. Those represent how many Action Points it costs to use that particular active skill. Skills that don't have triangles, are passive, therefore active at all times.
I think we had a plan for Trickster.. but I went ahead and just changed the description to this: "Before a battle, choose 6 elements. Your opponent can use any mark that is NOT from any of those 6 elements." . It's a quick fix that might be a fail so let me know if it is.
Stellar Radiation simply means that 4 bonus cards magically appear out of nowhere for the duration of the battle and then disappear just as magically.
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Many skills refer to non-rare cards and in the bazaar many cards are donated pillar, common, uncommon, rare, epic, and item.
Would I be correct in assuming that this refers to pillar, common and uncommon?
I really think some skills many players would not always want active:
Illusion of Power: Grant your opponent up to 3 additional upgraded cards during a battle. If you win, salvage double amount of cards.
Confusion: During a battle, your opponent must have at least 3 Quantum Pillars in his or her deck.
These 2 would be my main concern for :entropy I'm sure some other elements have similar issues with a skill or two.
This Trickster fix seems to be a good solution, but giving your opponent access to marks he doesn't have the skill for is a questionable move...
While this fits :entropy well thematically, it seems to be a bit underpowered for a tier III skill? (more homework for me xD)
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when does WoE start?
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when does WoE start?
When all the king's horse and all the king's men;
glue the shatter world back together again...
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In Rules, under diplomacy it says that the leaders can change the diplomatic relationship (to Allied, Friendly, Cautious, Hostile)... just wondering who is the leader and how is that decided? Might be a nice thing to know :P.
Also, for Diplomacy... if alliances/changes in diplomatic relations happen, do we (both elements) just mail you about it? Or will there be a link that would have us automatically changes it and does all of that fancy stuffs?
Ty again
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Can team death have a replacement for Xn0ize, or is that a nono?
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perfect. that's all i needed to know :P So it hasn't started yet then, i'm assuming? I just wanted to make sure that it had started while i wasn't looking
when does WoE start?
When all the king's horse and all the king's men;
glue the shatter world back together again...
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Max salvage: Entropy T1, Illusion of Power (+3 upped for them, double salvage); Gravity T2, Equilibrium (if same deck size, tripple salvage); Gravity T2, Reckless Charge (double salvage for win); Life T3, Predator (+12 salvage if you EM once); Life T4, Champion of Life (+6 salvage) ... (6+12+6)*2*3*2 = 288 salvage. Could be worse combinations. Do we have a max cap or is this fine?
Max discard: Darkness T1, Backstab (+3 discard if you beat them 2/0); Fire T2, Fiery Rush (when charging, opponent discards dubble); Underworld T1, Critical Strike (+2 discard if you win) ... (12+2+3)*2=34 discard for a loss. Could be worse combinations. Do we have a max cap or is this fine?
Minimum discard: Light T3, Lightbringer (-6 less discard); Time T1, Stall (-6 discard if 40+ deck) ... -6-6=-12 = no discard. Is this and acceptable and intended?
Max 3 upgrades?: Death T4, Wither (opponents use 9 less upgraded cards); Water T3, Arctic Mage (Opponent can only use 12 upgraded cards max) ... so does this mean my opponent could only use 3 upgraded cards?
Misc: Does air's T1 skill, mobility cancel out Earth's T4 ability crystallize? Are uncommon cards meant to be acquired through skills like Aether T1 Duplication, Entropy T2 Convert, Life T2 Nature Rituals (seems to make crafting worthless)? Can you become master of 2 elements using Time T3 scholar? Do relics stack in your inventory?
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Many skills refer to non-rare cards and in the bazaar many cards are donated pillar, common, uncommon, rare, epic, and item.
Would I be correct in assuming that this refers to pillar, common and uncommon?
I really think some skills many players would not always want active:
Illusion of Power: Grant your opponent up to 3 additional upgraded cards during a battle. If you win, salvage double amount of cards.
Confusion: During a battle, your opponent must have at least 3 Quantum Pillars in his or her deck.
These 2 would be my main concern for :entropy I'm sure some other elements have similar issues with a skill or two.
This Trickster fix seems to be a good solution, but giving your opponent access to marks he doesn't have the skill for is a questionable move...
While this fits :entropy well thematically, it seems to be a bit underpowered for a tier III skill? (more homework for me xD)
Correct, although that might change after the next round of nerfing.
Illusion of Power will be an active ability without a cost. I think it's the only skill that works that way.
Yea, Confusion kind of sucks because you would always have to fight against those 3 Quantum Pillars. We should somehow change it so that there would be more variation.
I agree. Trickster might be UP for tier 3 skill, but then again cutting Mark options of your opponent in half is no joke, especially when combined with other :entropy skills. You can prevent the opponent from playing certain types of decks that you know your opponent likes to play. We'll see how it plays out and make the necessary changes if needed.
In Rules, under diplomacy it says that the leaders can change the diplomatic relationship (to Allied, Friendly, Cautious, Hostile)... just wondering who is the leader and how is that decided? Might be a nice thing to know :P.
Also, for Diplomacy... if alliances/changes in diplomatic relations happen, do we (both elements) just mail you about it? Or will there be a link that would have us automatically changes it and does all of that fancy stuffs?
Ty again
This will be revealed when the event starts.
Alliances, official ones, will be made public by the leaders of that element, after which the organizers will take care of the rest.
Can team death have a replacement for Xn0ize, or is that a nono?
Already done. Xn0ize will be given spot number 7 when he returns.
Max salvage: Entropy T1, Illusion of Power (+3 upped for them, double salvage); Gravity T2, Equilibrium (if same deck size, tripple salvage); Gravity T2, Reckless Charge (double salvage for win); Life T3, Predator (+12 salvage if you EM once); Life T4, Champion of Life (+6 salvage) ... (6+12+6)*2*3*2 = 288 salvage. Could be worse combinations. Do we have a max cap or is this fine?
Max discard: Darkness T1, Backstab (+3 discard if you beat them 2/0); Fire T2, Fiery Rush (when charging, opponent discards dubble); Underworld T1, Critical Strike (+2 discard if you win) ... (12+2+3)*2=34 discard for a loss. Could be worse combinations. Do we have a max cap or is this fine?
Minimum discard: Light T3, Lightbringer (-6 less discard); Time T1, Stall (-6 discard if 40+ deck) ... -6-6=-12 = no discard. Is this and acceptable and intended?
Max 3 upgrades?: Death T4, Wither (opponents use 9 less upgraded cards); Water T3, Arctic Mage (Opponent can only use 12 upgraded cards max) ... so does this mean my opponent could only use 3 upgraded cards?
Misc: Does air's T1 skill, mobility cancel out Earth's T4 ability crystallize? Are uncommon cards meant to be acquired through skills like Aether T1 Duplication, Entropy T2 Convert, Life T2 Nature Rituals (seems to make crafting worthless)? Can you become master of 2 elements using Time T3 scholar? Do relics stack in your inventory?
I saw some of those combos myself yesterday. :) There won't be a cap because I think it would be lame to restrict clever skill combinations like that. But we do have to change some of the skills that multiply salvage/discard.
Minimum discard = 0 is fine.
"opponent could only use 3 upgraded cards" -combo is something we need to take a look at.
Yes.
No.
No, you can only be the Champion of one element.
No, one copy of an item per slot.
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can i change my tier 1 skill??
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can i change my tier 1 skill??
You can now, but once Day 1 topic is posted, it's too late.
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~~ Confusion! ~~
Many skills refer to non-rare cards and in the bazaar many cards are donated pillar, common, uncommon, rare, epic, and item.
Would I be correct in assuming that this refers to pillar, common and uncommon?
Correct, although that might change after the next round of nerfing.
Are uncommon cards meant to be acquired through skills like Aether T1 Duplication, Entropy T2 Convert, Life T2 Nature Rituals (seems to make crafting worthless)?
No.
Examples:
Duplication: Create a copy of any non-rare card currently in your possession.
Nature Rituals: Harvest 1 non-rate Life card from a Forest Hex.
From your answer to MatrimKK, you can duplicate, harvest, convert an uncommon card. From your answer to me, you cannot.
I read in the rules that all non-common cards are considered rare, but the rules are old, and yea... I just want to be sure before I try to sit in my forest and make me some pendulums... that this is either okay, or not.
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~~ Confusion! ~~
Many skills refer to non-rare cards and in the bazaar many cards are donated pillar, common, uncommon, rare, epic, and item.
Would I be correct in assuming that this refers to pillar, common and uncommon?
Correct, although that might change after the next round of nerfing.
Are uncommon cards meant to be acquired through skills like Aether T1 Duplication, Entropy T2 Convert, Life T2 Nature Rituals (seems to make crafting worthless)?
No.
Examples:
Duplication: Create a copy of any non-rare card currently in your possession.
Nature Rituals: Harvest 1 non-rate Life card from a Forest Hex.
From your answer to MatrimKK, you can duplicate, harvest, convert an uncommon card. From your answer to me, you cannot.
I read in the rules that all non-common cards are considered rare, but the rules are old, and yea... I just want to be sure before I try to sit in my forest and make me some pendulums... that this is either okay, or not.
I think the confusion comes from the fact that skill trees are incorrect. I will fix them once WoE starts, but the basic idea is that all "create a card from nothing" skills will only produce common cards, and to produce uncommon ones, you need to use crafting. There might be some exceptions though.
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Just a quick clarification (I know I know, I've posted a lot here... but I'm easily confused, so :3) all cards used in WoE (included upps) must be owned by the player in EtG, right? (Flying Weapon in WoE = Must have it in EtG as well, and Animate Weapon (upped) in WoE = Must have Animate Weapon (upped) in EtG). Just asking for clarification :S
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Action Resolution Order: Since everyone is posting to the same round thread, I'd assume all the days actions will resolve within a set order. Is it movement then other stuff? Example: Player 1,2,3 are on hex 3 when the round starts. They all use their actions to move to different hexes. I use stormbringer on hex 3. Will they get out before my storm hits them, or will they have to discard 6 and get to move too. Issues with skills like caltrops (they move then get snared, or they get snared and their movement fizzles), pickpocket, sniper, etc... any skill that requires you to be on the same hex as your target.
Attacking, Charging: It sounds like if you try to attack, it occurs after the movement of the round. If I use attack and no one is on the hex after movement, my attack fizzles. Likewise if I try to attack a specific player and they move off the hex. Charge follows them 1 hex, aggressive 2. I was not in the alpha, so I might be miss-understanding this, but it seems like the only way to catch someone specific is to move on their hex then next round aggressive charge, to make sure you keep up with them. Then this would fizzle still if your target moves faster than 2. You can't really move then attack, charge, because you can't tell their direction (1 in 6 guess right). If he sees you coming, I feel it will be impossible to really catch him.
Attacking in towns, cities: Can it be done?
Extra Actions: If I use an ability that takes 3 actions and I have nothing to use my last 1 of the day upon, do I get 5 the next round, or do I lose it?
Search: Will this action be of any use? What will searching do for a player? I'd imagine this will become a dud skill, but if you have something happen, a random event, each time a player searches (gain an item, quest, take damage, gain a card, etc...) then this would be an awesome action. Just curious upon your plans for this. What difference is there between search and the life skill scouting (besides scouting costs 2 instead of 3)?
Improvements: What improvements are there to build (I know you are going to say 'will explain later', but I have to ask)? I saw talk about roads, I'll assume towns (since I see none on the map), fortresses, anything else? Ways to more secure your influence (walls)?
Influence: Will the map have each hex highlighted with the color of the controller Will it become a large game of grabbing hexes back and forth with capture? Can you make hexes more immune to capture? Does my influence have to attach in one solid chunk w/ my capital or can I take land anywhere? Is the only benefit money? Do we gain a specific amount of influence around our capitals that cannot be captured?
Map Modification: This seems to me, to be a very fun aspect of the game. Life can make forests, earth can dig into mountains, hills, Fire and destroy stuff (assuming improvements) and burn forests, but that seems to be about it for now. From your comments, things will change as we play. I guess this isn't really a question, more of a, I hope we will gain a good deal of influence in our ability to shape the world.
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Just a quick clarification (I know I know, I've posted a lot here... but I'm easily confused, so :3) all cards used in WoE (included upps) must be owned by the player in EtG, right? (Flying Weapon in WoE = Must have it in EtG as well, and Animate Weapon (upped) in WoE = Must have Animate Weapon (upped) in EtG). Just asking for clarification :S
You only really need it on the EtG side for use in PvP. Using cards for skills such as Alchemy or Steam Pirate don't actually have to be owned on EtG.
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Action Resolution Order: Since everyone is posting to the same round thread, I'd assume all the days actions will resolve within a set order. Is it movement then other stuff? Example: Player 1,2,3 are on hex 3 when the round starts. They all use their actions to move to different hexes. I use stormbringer on hex 3. Will they get out before my storm hits them, or will they have to discard 6 and get to move too. Issues with skills like caltrops (they move then get snared, or they get snared and their movement fizzles), pickpocket, sniper, etc... any skill that requires you to be on the same hex as your target.
Attacking, Charging: It sounds like if you try to attack, it occurs after the movement of the round. If I use attack and no one is on the hex after movement, my attack fizzles. Likewise if I try to attack a specific player and they move off the hex. Charge follows them 1 hex, aggressive 2. I was not in the alpha, so I might be miss-understanding this, but it seems like the only way to catch someone specific is to move on their hex then next round aggressive charge, to make sure you keep up with them. Then this would fizzle still if your target moves faster than 2. You can't really move then attack, charge, because you can't tell their direction (1 in 6 guess right). If he sees you coming, I feel it will be impossible to really catch him.
Movement is the very last action to be performed.
Attacking in towns, cities: Can it be done?
IIRC, no. With the singular exception of Outlaw City.
Extra Actions: If I use an ability that takes 3 actions and I have nothing to use my last 1 of the day upon, do I get 5 the next round, or do I lose it?
You lose it.
Search: Will this action be of any use? What will searching do for a player? I'd imagine this will become a dud skill, but if you have something happen, a random event, each time a player searches (gain an item, quest, take damage, gain a card, etc...) then this would be an awesome action. Just curious upon your plans for this. What difference is there between search and the life skill scouting (besides scouting costs 2 instead of 3)?
As of now, it is the only defense against Lotus Traps. I don't know if it does anything further, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't.
Improvements: What improvements are there to build (I know you are going to say 'will explain later', but I have to ask)? I saw talk about roads, I'll assume towns (since I see none on the map), fortresses, anything else? Ways to more secure your influence (walls)?
The idea was to have players forge things like roads n' stuff of their own accord. The idea was to start with a "blank slate" of sorts and have the players shape it themselves as the event progresses.
Influence: Will the map have each hex highlighted with the color of the controller Will it become a large game of grabbing hexes back and forth with capture? Can you make hexes more immune to capture? Does my influence have to attach in one solid chunk w/ my capital or can I take land anywhere? Is the only benefit money? Do we gain a specific amount of influence around our capitals that cannot be captured?
No, just a flag (which is actually the "Mark of <element>" icon from the forums) will show up on captured hexes, the flags will correspond to the element that holds that hex.
Maybe, it all depends on what the players decide to do.
No.
If I understand this one correctly, no you can't pick up a hex and move it somewhere else. If that's not what you were looking for, then I have no idea what you are asking. :)
Yes.
No, land is always available for capture, but if you use capture on a hex that belongs to another element, that will only make the hex neutral. You must use another capture action to claim that now-neutral hex for your element.
Map Modification: This seems to me, to be a very fun aspect of the game. Life can make forests, earth can dig into mountains, hills, Fire and destroy stuff (assuming improvements) and burn forests, but that seems to be about it for now. From your comments, things will change as we play. I guess this isn't really a question, more of a, I hope we will gain a good deal of influence in our ability to shape the world.
Read my responses above.
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Half of the Elements have crafting. What does the other half get instead of that? And where is a list of what each thing on the map is and what this does to the player(s) occupying that hex?
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How do the upgrades work?
1. what determines the number of upgrades you can have?
2. what happens to the upgraded cards after that round?
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Can i change my tier 1 skill NOW??
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Action Resolution Order: Since everyone is posting to the same round thread, I'd assume all the days actions will resolve within a set order. Is it movement then other stuff? Example: Player 1,2,3 are on hex 3 when the round starts. They all use their actions to move to different hexes. I use stormbringer on hex 3. Will they get out before my storm hits them, or will they have to discard 6 and get to move too. Issues with skills like caltrops (they move then get snared, or they get snared and their movement fizzles), pickpocket, sniper, etc... any skill that requires you to be on the same hex as your target.
Attacking, Charging: It sounds like if you try to attack, it occurs after the movement of the round. If I use attack and no one is on the hex after movement, my attack fizzles. Likewise if I try to attack a specific player and they move off the hex. Charge follows them 1 hex, aggressive 2. I was not in the alpha, so I might be miss-understanding this, but it seems like the only way to catch someone specific is to move on their hex then next round aggressive charge, to make sure you keep up with them. Then this would fizzle still if your target moves faster than 2. You can't really move then attack, charge, because you can't tell their direction (1 in 6 guess right). If he sees you coming, I feel it will be impossible to really catch him.
Movement is the very last action to be performed.
Attacking in towns, cities: Can it be done?
IIRC, no. With the singular exception of Outlaw City.
Those two answers are incorrect.
Here's the correct order in which actions happen:
1. Basic/Special Actions
2. Movement Actions
3. Battle Actions
@ak65ala: yes, you understood correctly. It can be difficult to catch players sometimes, but it should be impossible. There are some skills that will help you, and you can only gang up on someone, limiting his or her retreat options. Also, WoE is all about gaining territory, so players who do nothing but retreat, won't be very useful to their element.
You cannot attack anyone who is inside a City, Town or Fortress, Outlaw City included. These places are safe-zones. Only way to attack a player inside it to first destroy the Wall and other defenses, then enter the hex as a hostile conqueror.
Btw.. I appreciate people helping by responding to questions on this topic , but when you do that, please make sure that you know the correct answer, because otherwise it will lead to a huge amount of confusion. Thanks.
Half of the Elements have crafting. What does the other half get instead of that? And where is a list of what each thing on the map is and what this does to the player(s) occupying that hex?
Elements that do no have crafting, have some other random skill instead. There is no equivalent to crafting.
There is no list like that currently. Unless told otherwise, you can treat all terrain as only eye candy. Some skills require special terrain, as well as some quests. But we might give mountains and water some kind of special mechanics, like limit movement somehow.
How do the upgrades work?
1. what determines the number of upgrades you can have?
2. what happens to the upgraded cards after that round?
1. Skills you have. For each skill you have from a specific element, you gain one additional upgraded cards (plus any ups that skill might give you). Marks are only exception because they give you 3 upgraded cards from that element.
2. You can use these "upgrade credits" to temporarily upgrade any card in your deck. After the battle, all cards return to normal and during the next battle you can use those "upgrade credits" to upgrade something else. Your character sheet will tell you how many cards, and from which element, you can upgrade.
Can i change my tier 1 skill NOW??
Yes. You can change it as many times as you like before Day 1 topic gets posted.
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What does the aether champion skill do?
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You cannot attack anyone who is inside a City, Town or Fortress, Outlaw City included. These places are safe-zones. Only way to attack a player inside it to first destroy the Wall and other defenses, then enter the hex as a hostile conqueror.
That's news to me. I thought we decided back in Alpha that Outlaw City would be an exception to this?
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What does the aether champion skill do?
You need to become one to know that.
You cannot attack anyone who is inside a City, Town or Fortress, Outlaw City included. These places are safe-zones. Only way to attack a player inside it to first destroy the Wall and other defenses, then enter the hex as a hostile conqueror.
That's news to me. I thought we decided back in Alpha that Outlaw City would be an exception to this?
It was suggested but not decided. I like the original plan (copied from MMORPG's) where cities are safe-zones where you can hang out without having to fear that someone ganks you. Also, theme-wise, it's more logical this way. Players are commanding armies, and two armies suddenly attacking each other in the middle of a city is something that rarely happens. If you want to fight, you gotta take it outside the city walls into the open.
Only concern to me was the fact that there were too many safe-zones, allowing someone to jump from one to the next. However with a bigger map and less Cities/Towns, this is less of a problem.
We might see some changes to this later, but for now, all Cities and Towns are safe-zones.
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Iirc, there was the capability of moving the Iron Birds. Who is this limited to? Do you gain the ability when you obtain the Iron Bird Pilot skill, or is it strictly Gravity players, regardless of having the skill?
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Iirc, there was the capability of moving the Iron Birds. Who is this limited to? Do you gain the ability when you obtain the Iron Bird Pilot skill, or is it strictly Gravity players, regardless of having the skill?
That one.
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Hmm... am I the only one who thinks that Iron Bird Pilot should give you the card Iron Bird? Meybe a card that gives a 200 HP boost? With some sweet affects too... we wouldn't want the card to be underpowered
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Is there a level limit? In the rules, the table of experience goes up to level 24, but does not mention that that is the maximum level possible, or that there is one possible at all. I was figuring until a team member pointed it out, that the max level was 40, since we are given a total space of 41 skills, including marks.
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Hmm... am I the only one who thinks that Iron Bird Pilot should give you the card Iron Bird? Meybe a card that gives a 200 HP boost? With some sweet affects too... we wouldn't want the card to be underpowered
Most likely, yes.
Is there a level limit? In the rules, the table of experience goes up to level 24, but does not mention that that is the maximum level possible, or that there is one possible at all. I was figuring until a team member pointed it out, that the max level was 40, since we are given a total space of 41 skills, including marks.
24 is max. IF you do not believe me, try to enter a big number in the XP cell in your Character Sheet. :)
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*looking at Gravity's skill: architect* What improvements/structures and what do they do?
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*looking at Gravity's skill: architect* What improvements/structures and what do they do?
Roads, Mines, Fortresses.. things like that. We will start with a smaller selection of possible improvements but will add more later.
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How do the upgrades work?
1. what determines the number of upgrades you can have?
2. what happens to the upgraded cards after that round?
1. Skills you have. For each skill you have from a specific element, you gain one additional upgraded cards (plus any ups that skill might give you). Marks are only exception because they give you 3 upgraded cards from that element.
so, having the mark of an element lets you use 3 upgrades from that element? The skill charts say only 1...
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How do the upgrades work?
1. what determines the number of upgrades you can have?
2. what happens to the upgraded cards after that round?
1. Skills you have. For each skill you have from a specific element, you gain one additional upgraded cards (plus any ups that skill might give you). Marks are only exception because they give you 3 upgraded cards from that element.
so, having the mark of an element lets you use 3 upgrades from that element? The skill charts say only 1...
You have a link?
nvm.
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How many upgrades (if any) do you get for having Mark of Underworld? and which element will they be?
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If I recall correctly, they get 'Other' upgrades, and only one from the mark.
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Do you know around when Day 1 is starting? (This weekend, next week, etc)
EDIT: Removed the pointless stuff above it ;)
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Can you buy shield/rare weapon/alchemy cards or do you make them with skills?
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Please don't spam in this topic because it's makes answering the questions more difficult. Questions only please, no pointless comments or off-topic spam.
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Can you buy shield/rare weapon/alchemy cards or do you make them with skills?
You can buy them at the respective element merchant, not the neighboring merchants by the way, since they only sell the neighboring common cards.
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For merchant prices, I assume they change when a new round begins, not right after someone buys the card during the same round?
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Has WOE started? and i was messing around and submitted an action to move to hex 73 and then search? really dont know if it will do anything :\
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For merchant prices, I assume they change when a new round begins, not right after someone buys the card during the same round?
Actually they change in real time. This means that two different people buying cards during the same round, could potentially pay different prices. You are required to use the prices as they are when you submit your actions. If prices change 5 minutes later, there is no refund.
I would also like to add that this was not really a design solution. It's basically the only option we have without having to use some elaborate merchant system.
Has WOE started? and i was messing around and submitted an action to move to hex 73 and then search? really dont know if it will do anything :\
It was supposed to start 1-2 hours ago but I realized that the map is missing hex numbers. I've been adding those and let me tell you it's not a small task. :) But no worries, Day 1 topic will be up very soon, maybe in 1 hour or something.
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For merchant prices, I assume they change when a new round begins, not right after someone buys the card during the same round?
Actually they change in real time. This means that two different people buying cards during the same round, could potentially pay different prices. You are required to use the prices as they are when you submit your actions. If prices change 5 minutes later, there is no refund.
I would also like to add that this was not really a design solution. It's basically the only option we have without having to use some elaborate merchant system.
Has WOE started? and i was messing around and submitted an action to move to hex 73 and then search? really dont know if it will do anything :\
It was supposed to start 1-2 hours ago but I realized that the map is missing hex numbers. I've been adding those and let me tell you it's not a small task. :) But no worries, Day 1 topic will be up very soon, maybe in 1 hour or something.
Ok great. ty for such quick response. also will my submitted action go through or is it just lost in randomness space? no idea what i was doing so.. yea.. delete it if you want.
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Is there anything associated with getting the Champion skill of an element, perhaps prerequisites aside from the rest of the skill tree?
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For merchant prices, I assume they change when a new round begins, not right after someone buys the card during the same round?
Actually they change in real time. This means that two different people buying cards during the same round, could potentially pay different prices. You are required to use the prices as they are when you submit your actions. If prices change 5 minutes later, there is no refund.
I would also like to add that this was not really a design solution. It's basically the only option we have without having to use some elaborate merchant system.
Has WOE started? and i was messing around and submitted an action to move to hex 73 and then search? really dont know if it will do anything :\
It was supposed to start 1-2 hours ago but I realized that the map is missing hex numbers. I've been adding those and let me tell you it's not a small task. :) But no worries, Day 1 topic will be up very soon, maybe in 1 hour or something.
Ok great. ty for such quick response. also will my submitted action go through or is it just lost in randomness space? no idea what i was doing so.. yea.. delete it if you want.
I reset the whole thing. You need to redo your actions. Sorry :)
Is there anything associated with getting the Champion skill of an element, perhaps prerequisites aside from the rest of the skill tree?
There will be a special quest that you need to complete before being able to become a Champion.
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in the merchant it shows 2 prices? one bigger and one below that is cheaper? which is it to buy from the merchant?
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in the merchant it shows 2 prices? one bigger and one below that is cheaper? which is it to buy from the merchant?
I assumed the bigger (also higher) price was the price at wich Merchants sell items to you. The smaller (also lower) price is the price merchants pay you when you sell them items.
This has not yet been confirmed though.
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So what happens if I take the "Mark of Fire" skill again? Do I get to play a mark card in my deck? Can I do so without a second instance of the skill? Can I use this as a quick way of gaining upgrades?
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Is there anything associated with getting the Champion skill of an element, perhaps prerequisites aside from the rest of the skill tree?
Going along with this, is there only one who can have the Champion Skill? Or can multiple people get it?
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So, how do we decide our leaders? There's this whole bit about diplomacy that apparently needs it. Is our leader the player with the Champion Skill? That seems like an awfully long time to get a leader...
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So, how do we decide our leaders? There's this whole bit about diplomacy that apparently needs it. Is our leader the player with the Champion Skill? That seems like an awfully long time to get a leader...
Leaders? Whomever your element decides, if you even want a leader.
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Oh, they're optional? I thought they were required or something. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
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Is there ever going to be a chatroom dedicated to WoE?
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Oh, they're optional? I thought they were required or something. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
I could be wrong, since I'm not running it. But that's just what I assume.
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So, World of Elements started yesterday?
Im just wondering do I have to get to 30 posts :3
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in the merchant it shows 2 prices? one bigger and one below that is cheaper? which is it to buy from the merchant?
I assumed the bigger (also higher) price was the price at wich Merchants sell items to you. The smaller (also lower) price is the price merchants pay you when you sell them items.
This has not yet been confirmed though.
Your assumption is correct. Bigger font price is buying price, small font price is selling price. Latter is 50% of the first one.
So what happens if I take the "Mark of Fire" skill again? Do I get to play a mark card in my deck? Can I do so without a second instance of the skill? Can I use this as a quick way of gaining upgrades?
Same thing happens that would happen in real life if you learned to swim all over again. You can only have one copy of each skill.
Mark cards are ultra-rare in WoE. Currently there is no known way to obtain them.
Is there anything associated with getting the Champion skill of an element, perhaps prerequisites aside from the rest of the skill tree?
Going along with this, is there only one who can have the Champion Skill? Or can multiple people get it?
That.
Oh, they're optional? I thought they were required or something. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Any response to these questions that was not by me should be taken with a grain of salt.
Unofficially, teams can pick whoever they want as their leader, but there will be an official way as well. Currently all elements are leaderless, but at some point a leader (a player) will emerge.
So, World of Elements started yesterday?
Im just wondering do I have to get to 30 posts :3
Yes. Good news is that you only need to wonder that 7 more times.
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Good to see it started, will follow it closely, just a few questions though (sorry for asking, but I couldn't find a clear answer):
How long does a "game" last, how many rounds, or infinite (doubt though?)
I believe you can join anytime you wish? You can join say 10th round still? (Would that be clever/balanced? :P).
Hope I can figure my more detailist answers by looking at how the current rounds go.
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Good to see it started, will follow it closely, just a few questions though (sorry for asking, but I couldn't find a clear answer):
How long does a "game" last, how many rounds, or infinite (doubt though?)
I believe you can join anytime you wish? You can join say 10th round still? (Would that be clever/balanced? :P).
Hope I can figure my more detailist answers by looking at how the current rounds go.
WoE has different parts, each with their own storyline quests and an ending. After a small break, the next part will continue from where the first one ended. Lets say :gravity wins WoE 1 and rules all other elements. WoE 2 would then continue from a situation where :gravity is the strongest and others try to dethrone :gravity.
You can join WoE any time as long as there are free spots in teams. Each team now has 6 players. Soon this number will be increased to 12.
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can we get a link to the map? i may have submitted based on old map i looked at yesterday :\
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Good to see it started, will follow it closely, just a few questions though (sorry for asking, but I couldn't find a clear answer):
How long does a "game" last, how many rounds, or infinite (doubt though?)
I believe you can join anytime you wish? You can join say 10th round still? (Would that be clever/balanced? :P).
Hope I can figure my more detailist answers by looking at how the current rounds go.
WoE has different parts, each with their own storyline quests and an ending. After a small break, the next part will continue from where the first one ended. Lets say :gravity wins WoE 1 and rules all other elements. WoE 2 would then continue from a situation where :gravity is the strongest and others try to dethrone :gravity.
You can join WoE any time as long as there are free spots in teams. Each team now has 6 players. Soon this number will be increased to 12.
Wut do you mean "Let's say Gravy wins"... of COURSE Gravy is gonna win WoE :P
My Question:
Do all shops have an unlimited stock of their cards? Or do certain cards (Like Rares) have a limited amount?
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Good to see it started, will follow it closely, just a few questions though (sorry for asking, but I couldn't find a clear answer):
How long does a "game" last, how many rounds, or infinite (doubt though?)
I believe you can join anytime you wish? You can join say 10th round still? (Would that be clever/balanced? :P).
Hope I can figure my more detailist answers by looking at how the current rounds go.
WoE has different parts, each with their own storyline quests and an ending. After a small break, the next part will continue from where the first one ended. Lets say :gravity wins WoE 1 and rules all other elements. WoE 2 would then continue from a situation where :gravity is the strongest and others try to dethrone :gravity.
You can join WoE any time as long as there are free spots in teams. Each team now has 6 players. Soon this number will be increased to 12.
Wut do you mean "Let's say Gravy wins"... of COURSE Gravy is gonna win WoE :P
My Question:
Do all shops have an unlimited stock of their cards? Or do certain cards (Like Rares) have a limited amount?
I think merchants have a limited amount of all cards, regardless of their rarity. Though they probably have less of rarer cards. And NO, gravity will not win. Entropy shall rule all of the elements.
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can we get a link to the map? i may have submitted based on old map i looked at yesterday :\
The current map is in each Day topic. That image acts as a link to the main spreadsheet that also has the map, plus names behind the numbers.
My Question:
Do all shops have an unlimited stock of their cards? Or do certain cards (Like Rares) have a limited amount?
See that brown stack of cards and that brown number next to it? That's how many cards the merchant has available for purchase.
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Uh oh, looks like there's a minor numbering issue on the map... >_>
In the top right corner of the map next to the Time Capital city, there are TWO hexes that are numbered '212'; the hexes in the columns right and left of that are all numbered accurately, but for some reason that one had started off with two '212' hexes, then were numbered down accordingly. ^^; Is there a way to fix that?
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Uh oh, looks like there's a minor numbering issue on the map... >_>
In the top right corner of the map next to the Time Capital city, there are TWO hexes that are numbered '212'; the hexes in the columns right and left of that are all numbered accurately, but for some reason that one had started off with two '212' hexes, then were numbered down accordingly. ^^; Is there a way to fix that?
Actually, it only happens up to 224, as the next column correctly starts off with 226, skipping 225 when the numbers change columns.
EDIT: Question of my own. What happens if I am successfully attacked by more than one player during the same day? Is there an ambush condition that forces a disadvantage upon each individual fight, do I regularly fight them in the same day with no disadvantages, or only the first person to submit the successful attack fight me that day?
For the Transport Iron Bird action, how much AP would that be? 3 like the travel action between them?
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How is peace declared?
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Can there be a bit more tutorial on trade? I think I did it correctly but am not really sure :P Also the merchant link wouldn't load after many many minutes, is this (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&key=0AiwMGGakrptadFU5eWQtaWFENjNQcUlONzlqWDVwWGc&hl=en_US&gid=36) acceptable to use, or is it outdated?
Sorry submitting actions is still a bit new for me and so are the actions xD
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How does the bargaining skill work?
It says it gives you a different cost for the cards, but i dont know what that cost is(which means i will have a hard time with my sheet).
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Hey, Just wondering how I sign up to play this, I got my 30 posts :))
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Uh oh, looks like there's a minor numbering issue on the map... >_>
In the top right corner of the map next to the Time Capital city, there are TWO hexes that are numbered '212'; the hexes in the columns right and left of that are all numbered accurately, but for some reason that one had started off with two '212' hexes, then were numbered down accordingly. ^^; Is there a way to fix that?
Will be fixed for Day 3. Thanks.
What happens if I am successfully attacked by more than one player during the same day? Is there an ambush condition that forces a disadvantage upon each individual fight, do I regularly fight them in the same day with no disadvantages, or only the first person to submit the successful attack fight me that day?
For the Transport Iron Bird action, how much AP would that be? 3 like the travel action between them?
When you are attacked by someone, you become locked in battle with that player and others cannot attack you. It doesn't really matter whether you get jumped by 1 person or 1000. This will all be explained in more detail when the time comes.
Yes, 3 AP.
How is peace declared?
This will be explained later. Currently, it's not possible to declare Peace because all teams are lacking the diplomatic tools to do that.
Can there be a bit more tutorial on trade? I think I did it correctly but am not really sure :P Also the merchant link wouldn't load after many many minutes, is this (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&key=0AiwMGGakrptadFU5eWQtaWFENjNQcUlONzlqWDVwWGc&hl=en_US&gid=36) acceptable to use, or is it outdated?
Sorry submitting actions is still a bit new for me and so are the actions xD
The link you put there IS the correct merchant link.
Trading is simple. Use an action called Trade (no target) and buy and see cards according to the price. Big number is buying price and small number is selling price. Update your character sheet and you are done.
How does the bargaining skill work?
It says it gives you a different cost for the cards, but i dont know what that cost is(which means i will have a hard time with my sheet).
Yea, sorry that description was outdated. Please use this temporary fix:
Card buying price is always the same as it is in the Capital City of that particular element.
So for example if you want to buy an :aether card from Outlaw City, you will look at Aether City price (50% cheaper) instead of Outlaw City price. It might be a bit OP but it'll do as a temporary solution.
Hey, Just wondering how I sign up to play this, I got my 30 posts :))
Gratz.
Signups are currently closed, but will be opened in a few days.
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Well that was a waste of getting 30 posts :P
Well Thx for the quick response!
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I was taking a peek at the Fire merchant to see what cards their starter deck would have when I noticed they can't buy cards?! (price is --)
Is this correct or some kind of bug?
(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd227225/fiyahmadness.png)
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Thanks for the answer.
The fire merchant thing was temporal(saw it while looking for costs).
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Can towns be built on rivers?
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I just have a minor suggestion. I am all for that new actions part added to our team spreadsheets. Is it possible to place our names next to the :darkness 1,2 ,3,4,5,6 etc.. How many of my teammates are going to memorize that I am #1 .. this person is #6 and later on this person is #12? Just think it would be easier to put both their # 1-6 (later 1-12) and then their name.
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Can towns be built on rivers?
And lakes?
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The fire merchant thing was temporal(saw it while looking for costs).
And here I was hoping Fire would be without merchants (http://elementscommunity.org/chat/skin_default/smilies/silly.png)
Thanks!
I just have a minor suggestion. I am all for that new actions part added to our team spreadsheets. Is it possible to place our names next to the :darkness 1,2 ,3,4,5,6 etc.. How many of my teammates are going to memorize that I am #1 .. this person is #6 and later on this person is #12? Just think it would be easier to put both their # 1-6 (later 1-12) and then their name.
Well the tab right next to it (summary) would let you match names with numbers :)
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The fire merchant thing was temporal(saw it while looking for costs).
And here I was hoping Fire would be without merchants (http://elementscommunity.org/chat/skin_default/smilies/silly.png)
Thanks!
I just have a minor suggestion. I am all for that new actions part added to our team spreadsheets. Is it possible to place our names next to the :darkness 1,2 ,3,4,5,6 etc.. How many of my teammates are going to memorize that I am #1 .. this person is #6 and later on this person is #12? Just think it would be easier to put both their # 1-6 (later 1-12) and then their name.
Well the tab right next to it (summary) would let you match names with numbers :)
yes that is true, but that little tweak couldnt be that difficult?
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when you duel someone, do you have to use all your cards that you have, or can you use a deck with some of your cards?
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I'm pretty sure you just make any deck you want with the cards you own.
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I'm pretty sure you just make any deck you want with the cards you own.
i think kamietsu is right? use only cards you own within WOE is my assumption. if you dont have them in the actual game.. get on it? the commons are cheap and easy to get.. since its so early noone should have that big of a deal doing that.
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I was taking a peek at the Fire merchant to see what cards their starter deck would have when I noticed they can't buy cards?! (price is --)
Is this correct or some kind of bug?
(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd227225/fiyahmadness.png)
This is a known bug in Google Docs. There is no workaround to it but the problem will usually correct itself in a couple of minutes.
Can towns be built on rivers?
Yes. They can be built on any terrain.
I'm pretty sure you just make any deck you want with the cards you own.
Yep.
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When you search an area, will you only find things in marked hexes, (for example a gold hex) or can you find cool stuff in normal unmarked hexes too?
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So I saw the action "capture" - and read it can be used twice a turn, though is there anything else a capture can be combined with? - Seems like using capture once is a totally stupid (and weird it is possible) otherwise.
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So I saw the action "capture" - and read it can be used twice a turn, though is there anything else a capture can be combined with? - Seems like using capture once is a totally stupid (and weird it is possible) otherwise.
You can capture to make a hex from another Element Neutral. (example: you capture a hex from team water, that hex now becomes neutral)
You can then capture to make the neutral hex your own! (example: you capture the neutral hex, that hex will now be captured by your team)
Capture costs 2 AP so can be combine with a move action (2 AP also) the same turn. Team Underworld can capture to make hexes neutral, but they can't claim the ground for their team!
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When you search an area, will you only find things in marked hexes, (for example a gold hex) or can you find cool stuff in normal unmarked hexes too?
Search will find things that are hidden. Things like Gold are visible to everyone, therefore using Search does nothing to them, unless there is also something hidden in that same hex. Oh and by the way.. that Gold is not something you can take. It's gold inside that Mountain which means you need to build a Mine on top of it.
My recommendation: Do not go crazy with the Search action at this point of the event. You will very likely find nothing. Search will be more useful later.
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So if i am on the Tunnel hex and i move can i pick any other Tunnel exit to pop out of? also is it still 2 ap to do so? how many AP do we have? is it 2 or 5? the rules say 2 but if capture =2 and move = 2 maybe i missed something somewhere. if it is 5.. can i capture move to tunnel then when i move next time can i pick an exit to start my move from? or does it cost a move to go from tunnel start to exit?
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So if i am on the Tunnel hex and i move can i pick any other Tunnel exit to pop out of? also is it still 2 ap to do so? how many AP do we have? is it 2 or 5? the rules say 2 but if capture =2 and move = 2 maybe i missed something somewhere. if it is 5.. can i capture move to tunnel then when i move next time can i pick an exit to start my move from? or does it cost a move to go from tunnel start to exit?
For starters, you will need the Tunnel Rat skill from Earth.
Then you can travel to another tunnel up to 5 hexes away for 3AP.
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So if i am on the Tunnel hex and i move can i pick any other Tunnel exit to pop out of? also is it still 2 ap to do so? how many AP do we have? is it 2 or 5? the rules say 2 but if capture =2 and move = 2 maybe i missed something somewhere. if it is 5.. can i capture move to tunnel then when i move next time can i pick an exit to start my move from? or does it cost a move to go from tunnel start to exit?
For starters, you will need the Tunnel Rat skill from Earth.
Then you can travel to another tunnel up to 5 hexes away for 3AP.
oh i see.. then i take it we do have 5 ap then? the rules should be updated as such.
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The rules don't appear to have anything about improvements. Where can the AP costs and effects of building roads/towns/etc be found? Google wasn't very helpful with this, and with the in-forum search borken, I'm not having any luck with this. :(
Thanks!
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How does the income formula work? Back in alpha we had a chart, but now I'm sort of lost as to how we gain income every turn.
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I am still not sure how Camel Ride works. It reads "Move from one Desert Camel hex to the next.", and I do see there is a Camel path on the map. But what about the camels that are not on the path? How can we move to them?
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I am still not sure how Camel Ride works. It reads "Move from one Desert Camel hex to the next.", and I do see there is a Camel path on the map. But what about the camels that are not on the path? How can we move to them?
I believe that you can only move to camels that are exactly two hexes away from each other (i.e. - you can't move from one camel to another one that's three or more hexes away). The camels not on the path are basically 'leaves' of the same branch, where they aren't traveled as often compared to the supposed "main path" from the Time capital city to ship in the southwest corner.
In other words, you can move to them, but make sure you're on a hex that's two or less hexes away from them before moving to them, or else the movement will be illegal I believe. :)
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Can one person with a vehicle skill (like Iron Bird or Ship Captain) take others with him, or does every individual using a Fast Transport need the relevant skill?
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Is there a list with current Global Quests?
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How many AP can we use during a day??
What happens if you lose vs. someone??
how many cards do you need to discard??
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How many AP can we use during a day??
You can use up to 4 Action Points to perform any actions you like. You will find all available actions here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&key=0AgB8fZX7y8kydHBtU0RNOC1yeFk2cTRIRzhCaDFyekE&hl=en_US&gid=32).
What happens if you lose vs. someone??
how many cards do you need to discard??
Winner starts a new topic in the "Battle Results" section. That topic includes the deck used and a short description of the battle. Winner can also salvage up to 6 cards from the losing deck.
Loser posts his or her deck on the "Battle Results" topic started by the winner. Loser has to discard 12 cards from his or her deck, and wait for resurrection.
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(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd227474/delete_this.png)
Does this still mean I posted my actions...? I tried twice, got the same message, and I want to make sure I move next turn. Currently on the "actions" spreadsheet it has my moves from last round.
edit: Sorry for the weird image, I am still a noob at posting stuff other than text.
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(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd227474/delete_this.png)
Does this still mean I posted my actions...? I tried twice, got the same message, and I want to make sure I move next turn. Currently on the "actions" spreadsheet it has my moves from last round.
edit: Sorry for the weird image, I am still a noob at posting stuff other than text.
i have been wondering same thing.. i put mine in long time ago middle of day and still no idea if it wen through.
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Check your character sheets to see if it went through.
I'll give you a link.... oh wait! No I won't!
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Check your character sheets to see if it went through.
I'll give you a link.... oh wait! No I won't!
everything is just #VALUE!
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Question 1: Do I have to be in the Entropy Capital to learn Entropy skills? (and mark of :entropy)
Question 2: If yes, how do I learn mark of :fire and Fire skills when I can't enter their towns?
Question 3: If I can't then why would I ever want a Steam Machine?
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Question 3: If I can't then why would I ever want a Steam Machine?
Fire Pillars and Immolation are common cards, so you can still get Fire quanta by buying these from Death/Entropy towns. Another option is the Darkness skill that allows you to enter hostile towns. (tough luck for Light if they want something from Darkness :P)
Although I'm not certain, capturing that Fire town and making it your own, or letting some other non-hostile team capture it, might be an option, too.
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Question 3: If I can't then why would I ever want a Steam Machine?
Fire Pillars and Immolation are common cards, so you can still get Fire quanta by buying these from Death/Entropy towns. Another option is the Darkness skill that allows you to enter hostile towns. (tough luck for Light if they want something from Darkness :P)
Although I'm not certain, capturing that Fire town and making it your own, or letting some other non-hostile team capture it, might be an option, too.
Wait a second... you can capture towns?...
I thought towns got destroyed after sieging!
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Question 3: If I can't then why would I ever want a Steam Machine?
Fire Pillars and Immolation are common cards, so you can still get Fire quanta by buying these from Death/Entropy towns. Another option is the Darkness skill that allows you to enter hostile towns. (tough luck for Light if they want something from Darkness :P)
Although I'm not certain, capturing that Fire town and making it your own, or letting some other non-hostile team capture it, might be an option, too.
Wait a second... you can capture towns?...
I thought towns got destroyed after sieging!
Well, first you would destroy the walls, second kill all defending players and garrisoned NPCs, third I believe you have the choice to capture and rebuild, or destroy it entirely.
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Where are all these rules surrounding towns??!?
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Can one person with a vehicle skill (like Iron Bird or Ship Captain) take others with him, or does every individual using a Fast Transport need the relevant skill?
Everyone needs that skill, although when talking about the boat, it might actually be cool if one person could transport.. say 3 other players. Who knows, we might change that skill.
Is there a list with current Global Quests?
Global Quests are posted globally and are basically a "race" between all elements on who completes the quest first. We currently have zero global quests active so there is no list.
Question 1: Do I have to be in the Entropy Capital to learn Entropy skills? (and mark of :entropy)
Question 2: If yes, how do I learn mark of :fire and Fire skills when I can't enter their towns?
Question 3: If I can't then why would I ever want a Steam Machine?
This is something I was going to talk about later. I think the best way would be something like this:
MARK -> Any City or Town
TIER 1 -> City or Town of that element OR neighboring element
TIER 2 -> City or Town of that element
TIER 3 -> City of that element
Something like that.
Question 3: If I can't then why would I ever want a Steam Machine?
Fire Pillars and Immolation are common cards, so you can still get Fire quanta by buying these from Death/Entropy towns. Another option is the Darkness skill that allows you to enter hostile towns. (tough luck for Light if they want something from Darkness :P)
Although I'm not certain, capturing that Fire town and making it your own, or letting some other non-hostile team capture it, might be an option, too.
Wait a second... you can capture towns?...
I thought towns got destroyed after sieging!
Players will be given an option to either capture it, or destroy it. Latter gives you some extra resources (at a cost of not getting a new Town or City)
Where are all these rules surrounding towns??!?
Rules will be slowly added as beta goes forward. Siege is something I plan on talking about very soon. But if you want to start it right now, just go next to Town or City and use the Siege action to see what happens :)
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MARK -> Any City or Town
TIER 1 -> City or Town of that element OR neighboring element
TIER 2 -> City or Town of that element
TIER 3 -> City of that element
Something like that.
Sounds like a very good plan to me. I've got plans on short term however so a final verdict would be most welcome ;)
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MARK -> Any City or Town
TIER 1 -> City or Town of that element OR neighboring element
TIER 2 -> City or Town of that element
TIER 3 -> City of that element
Something like that.
Sounds like a very good plan to me. I've got plans on short term however so a final verdict would be most welcome ;)
Just use that as a temporary rule.
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Rules will be slowly added as beta goes forward.
Cool by me, I'm just looking for basic things like how many AP it takes to create a town, how many towns you can create, etc. Seiges will certainly be on the agenda soon, but how about the stuff we've already done being written down somewhere? :)
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Question 3: If I can't then why would I ever want a Steam Machine?
You want it to use with other fire cards, like rage pots and such, which you can order from the cheapest not-fire source(and that one is me right now).
Just take a boat/ride/camel/just walk to enjoy our premium line of off-element cards, obtained with the last in bargaining tecnology!
Please announce yourself in advance so the patrol doesnt think you are hostile(lets avoid any incidents that compromise trading routes).
ShiningSword Inc. is not responsable for any accidents or deck failure that could be caused by any products distributed here. You buy at your own risk! :underworld
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Question 3: If I can't then why would I ever want a Steam Machine?
You want it to use with other fire cards, like rage pots and such, which you can order from the cheapest not-fire source(and that one is me right now).
Just take a boat/ride/camel/just walk to enjoy our premium line of off-element cards, obtained with the last in bargaining tecnology!
Please announce yourself in advance so the patrol doesnt think you are hostile(lets avoid any incidents that compromise trading routes).
ShiningSword Inc. is not responsable for any accidents or deck failure that could be caused by any products distributed here. You buy at your own risk! :underworld
Well, technically rage pots are rare, so they can't be bought at the UW merchant.
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Question 3: If I can't then why would I ever want a Steam Machine?
You want it to use with other fire cards, like rage pots and such, which you can order from the cheapest not-fire source(and that one is me right now).
Just take a boat/ride/camel/just walk to enjoy our premium line of off-element cards, obtained with the last in bargaining tecnology!
Please announce yourself in advance so the patrol doesnt think you are hostile(lets avoid any incidents that compromise trading routes).
ShiningSword Inc. is not responsable for any accidents or deck failure that could be caused by any products distributed here. You buy at your own risk! :underworld
Well, technically rage pots are rare, so they can't be bought at the UW merchant.
You got me :P. In any case, we have a wide selection of cards, and, if they pay enough, i am sure i could go get those rage pots(although it would cost them).
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1. Can I salvage rares from an opponents deck? (Like black holes)
2. Can I sell Blackholes at the Water merchant? I can't buy them there so the cards aren;t listed, but I can sell them right? Same goes for other cards like Aether/Entropy cards etc.
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Do we have to take the quest Cultural Expansion?
In the list of steps it doesn't say we have to, but I'd like to make sure.
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How often do reinforcements come actually? I'm trying to follow this, and just collecting a few more upped cards so I don't have troubles anytime :).
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this may have been asked and answered, umm how do i get started lol. looks like a cool idea i just need a lil help understanding more of how to get started is all.
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so for experience... can i do the expand borders X times..and gain the corresponding exp for it.. or is it a 1 time quest only? I havent had the ability to click Complete* yet.. so not sure how that goes.
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1. Can I salvage rares from an opponents deck? (Like black holes)
2. Can I sell Blackholes at the Water merchant? I can't buy them there so the cards aren;t listed, but I can sell them right? Same goes for other cards like Aether/Entropy cards etc.
1. You can only salvage Common or Uncommon cards.
2. Yes. Use the price found in the Underworld tab
Do we have to take the quest Cultural Expansion?
In the list of steps it doesn't say we have to, but I'd like to make sure.
You don't have to do anything really. But that particular quest.. it's probably a good idea to take that.
How often do reinforcements come actually? I'm trying to follow this, and just collecting a few more upped cards so I don't have troubles anytime :).
I will add the next batch of players this weekend.
this may have been asked and answered, umm how do i get started lol. looks like a cool idea i just need a lil help understanding more of how to get started is all.
We are currently missing a newbie tutorial so it might be a bit confusing. You should start by reading everything that is in the first post of those Day topics, starting from Day 1. Those have good tips on what you can and should do to get started.
so for experience... can i do the expand borders X times..and gain the corresponding exp for it.. or is it a 1 time quest only? I havent had the ability to click Complete* yet.. so not sure how that goes.
You can do each quest only once.
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TY for the response SG i have since then submitted my 1-3 elements as :darkness :death :life. i hope i can get in this time around.
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Hmm...been looking over the Skill Trees. I'm a bit curious.
1. If I use Breeding as an action, does this allow me to sell and/or trade the card I obtained through breeding during the same day?
2. I would ask the same of Nature Rituals, but since the card is random I don't see how that's possible. However, how exactly are we informed of the card that we receive? Will it appear somewhere on our Character Sheets, telling us what card we received?
3. I noticed that the Actions sheet only allows for 2 move options. I'm assuming that even if we have enough AP to do otherwise that we're limited to using Animal Form twice per turn? Also, how are you keeping track of moves made with Animal Form; is there a specific method you're using which will prevent you from mistaking the 1 AP cost as 2 and considering one of the moves invalid?
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In the current day, you mention fortresses. As I was in Alpha, I theoretically know what they are, though my knowledge is from when Gravity alone was able to build them from an outdated skill. I'm going to guess that all elements are capable of building them now, and Gravity's replacement skill simply reduces the cost and effort for them. In that case, what is the base cost for a fortress?
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Hmm...been looking over the Skill Trees. I'm a bit curious.
1. If I use Breeding as an action, does this allow me to sell and/or trade the card I obtained through breeding during the same day?
2. I would ask the same of Nature Rituals, but since the card is random I don't see how that's possible. However, how exactly are we informed of the card that we receive? Will it appear somewhere on our Character Sheets, telling us what card we received?
3. I noticed that the Actions sheet only allows for 2 move options. I'm assuming that even if we have enough AP to do otherwise that we're limited to using Animal Form twice per turn? Also, how are you keeping track of moves made with Animal Form; is there a specific method you're using which will prevent you from mistaking the 1 AP cost as 2 and considering one of the moves invalid?
1. Yes.
2. Not random. You pick a card.
3. You assumed correctly. It's a problem with the form that may be (at least partially) fixed at some point by adding a third drop-down to all categories. Players themselves are responsible for not using too many AP's. If a mistake happens, it's not the end of the world but I'm hoping people pay attention. I'll try to see those errors myself, but I won't see them all.
In the current day, you mention fortresses. As I was in Alpha, I theoretically know what they are, though my knowledge is from when Gravity alone was able to build them from an outdated skill. I'm going to guess that all elements are capable of building them now, and Gravity's replacement skill simply reduces the cost and effort for them. In that case, what is the base cost for a fortress?
All elements will be able to build different kinds of structures and improvements. The price list is not ready yet.
The basic idea is that what is happening is the birth of a civilization. Teams are currently not advanced enough to build anything. As civilizations grow, more options will be given.
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is team water able to attack a team gravity member while he is inside water's main city?
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is team water able to attack a team gravity member while he is inside water's main city?
No. There is zero fighting inside a City, Town or Fortress. Period.
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1 more question... does training give us exp or is training what we do after we have skill points and we want to get a skill?
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1 more question... does training give us exp or is training what we do after we have skill points and we want to get a skill?
The train action is only to use already earned skill points.
The only ways to get exp are by battling, doing quests, or some specific skills.
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is team water able to attack a team gravity member while he is inside water's main city?
No, no fighting in cities
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Is there a plan yet for how UW players earn money, since obviously the "work" action isn't as effective for us?
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How to buy and sell things? I started to train something last time, am I trained already? :)
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How to buy and sell things? I started to train something last time, am I trained already? :)
Training:
- You submit Train in the Action Submission Form
- You manually add the skill you'd like to train to your Character Sheet (you can only do this when you have an unused Skill Point)
Trading:
- You submit Trade in the Action Submission Form
- You manually add or remove cards from your card pool and manually add or remove electrum from your electrum pool. (in your Character Sheet!)
- When you want to trade with a player you need to sumbit the Action "trade with" and include a target *player name*
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Thanks
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I just looked at my character sheet and noticed I had failed to complete Expand Borders back on Day 3. I ran the script that was supposed to complete it for me, and I got the message "You do not have permission to do this (line 17)."
I've added the 2xp, but I don't know what to do about finishing the quest.
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I just looked at my character sheet and noticed I had failed to complete Expand Borders back on Day 3. I ran the script that was supposed to complete it for me, and I got the message "You do not have permission to do this (line 17)."
I've added the 2xp, but I don't know what to do about finishing the quest.
Manually add the 2 exp like you just did. The quest cannot be completed at this point because of the bug you just mentioned.
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I should I interpret the speech of that Military Advisor? How can I accept that task? Just "take quest"and then what?
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I should I interpret the speech of that Military Advisor? How can I accept that task? Just "take quest"and then what?
The :water quest says in the notes:
- The Entire team can complete it.
- No Special actions have to be done, you can just fulfill the task and it get's automatically completed.
I do not wish to give more info since I am not sure if all Elements tasks are the same! I hope this helps.
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Thanks again :) . Somehow I's still missing those notes; I just have a black spot there.
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Just a question for confirmation:
quests can still be done even if it is no longer the day for that quest right?
So someone (who hasn't done it yet) can still start + finish expanding borders quests (from day 1)?
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Just a question for confirmation:
quests can still be done even if it is no longer the day for that quest right?
So someone (who hasn't done it yet) can still start + finish expanding borders quests (from day 1)?
Yes, you can still take and complete that quest.
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If I attack/charge/agressive charge player A, and player B attacks/charges/agressive charges me, who will fight who the next round (assuming player A defends/fortifies)?
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Is there currently a way to see moves that you've previously made? (Earlier Rounds)
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Is there currently a way to see moves that you've previously made? (Earlier Rounds)
Post them in your "Kingdom of Darkness" section or post 'em in a word doc.
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Is there any plan for UW revenue yet? We're already engaging in battles, and for those we don't win we'll need a way to earn money and buy our cards back soon.
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How exactly does "work" work? I used the action last turn, but since no electrum is automagically added yet I assume I'll have to add it myself, but how much am I allowed to add? I know it has something to do with land owned and players on the team and such, but I can't find any specific details (not to mention things like whether fractions are rounded up or down).
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Check this out:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&key=0AgB8fZX7y8kydHBtU0RNOC1yeFk2cTRIRzhCaDFyekE&hl=en_US&gid=48
:darkness work/day = 16 atm.
Add 16 :electrum to your CS!
Only problem is, you weren't in a town or city when you used the action "work" wich makes it illegal...
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Does the "Bonus XP and Reputation" section apply to both winners and losers? I had been assuming it was winners only, but looking at it again it looks like it applies to both (meaning if you bring a mono deck for example, then you can get +1xp and rep of your element even if you lose.
Is that correct?
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No. As it says under the tables:
If you lose a battle, you won't get any bonuses but you will suffer the penalties.
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No. As it says under the tables:
If you lose a battle, you won't get any bonuses but you will suffer the penalties.
Ah I see what the problem was. The table is listed in two places. Under "Battle" it makes it look like bonus xp always applies, but under "deckbuilding" it clarifies that it's just winners.
Thx.
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How does resetting your character work?
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How does resetting your character work?
Just reset everything like it was when you started. Use blank character sheet as an example.
Related to this, we might have to start looking into buffing UW a bit, especially the revenue side of things.
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How does resetting your character work?
Just reset everything like it was when you started. Use blank character sheet as an example.
Related to this, we might have to start looking into buffing UW a bit, especially the revenue side of things.
Everything including skills, quests completed, reputation, etc? Or just everything electrum related like cards, items and money?
Does resetting require an action?
And yes, some way for UW to get revenue, either singularly or as a faction, would be good. As-is we can't effectively buy back cards if we lose them. If I get some brilliant idea for how it could be done, I'll be sure to post it. :)
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How does resetting your character work?
Just reset everything like it was when you started. Use blank character sheet as an example.
Related to this, we might have to start looking into buffing UW a bit, especially the revenue side of things.
Everything including skills, quests completed, reputation, etc? Or just everything electrum related like cards, items and money?
Does resetting require an action?
And yes, some way for UW to get revenue, either singularly or as a faction, would be good. As-is we can't effectively buy back cards if we lose them. If I get some brilliant idea for how it could be done, I'll be sure to post it. :)
Kuro suggested a system where when UW players neutralize hexes, they get some electrum as a reward. Theme-wise, we could see it as UW player pillaging the hex. This should help a bit, but I think more buffs are probably needed.
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How does resetting your character work?
Just reset everything like it was when you started. Use blank character sheet as an example.
Related to this, we might have to start looking into buffing UW a bit, especially the revenue side of things.
Everything including skills, quests completed, reputation, etc? Or just everything electrum related like cards, items and money?
Does resetting require an action?
And yes, some way for UW to get revenue, either singularly or as a faction, would be good. As-is we can't effectively buy back cards if we lose them. If I get some brilliant idea for how it could be done, I'll be sure to post it. :)
Kuro suggested a system where when UW players neutralize hexes, they get some electrum as a reward. Theme-wise, we could see it as UW player pillaging the hex. This should help a bit, but I think more buffs are probably needed.
Just thinking out loud here, but what if the amount gained by "pillaging" was based on how large the kingdom that owned the hex was? That way it would be more dynamic, and would encourage UW players to weaken the more powerful nations by neutralizing their hexes (which fits with the Anarchy theme of UW). As far as exact numbers go, we could try just making the reward for pillaging a hex the same as the amount given to one of that nations players for working. It'd allow UW to possibly get as much "work" money as the richer nations, but on the other hand would be much more dangerous, since the richer an enemy you loot, the more powerful an enemy you make too. It has a lot of advantages and disadvantages compared to the typical Work action, but I think it would balance out pretty close.
Also, when you say resetting a character reverts "everything", does that include skills, quests completed, reputation, etc? Or just everything electrum related like cards, items and money?
Does resetting require an action?
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As far as exact numbers go, we could try just making the reward for pillaging a hex the same as the amount given to one of that nations players for working.
Something to keep in mind is that Work costs 4 AP while Capture only costs 2. That may be okay, since UW is underpowered atm, but I thought it was worth mentioning in this discussion.
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How does resetting your character work?
Just reset everything like it was when you started. Use blank character sheet as an example.
Related to this, we might have to start looking into buffing UW a bit, especially the revenue side of things.
Everything including skills, quests completed, reputation, etc? Or just everything electrum related like cards, items and money?
Does resetting require an action?
And yes, some way for UW to get revenue, either singularly or as a faction, would be good. As-is we can't effectively buy back cards if we lose them. If I get some brilliant idea for how it could be done, I'll be sure to post it. :)
Kuro suggested a system where when UW players neutralize hexes, they get some electrum as a reward. Theme-wise, we could see it as UW player pillaging the hex. This should help a bit, but I think more buffs are probably needed.
Maybe make the action "pillage" instead of "neutralize"? - Then an underworld player gets electrum based on what somebody of the original element would get when they "work":
ie say as a fire user you earn 20 electrum / work action.. Now an underworld can neutralize a fire hex: he would then get the original "earnings" a fire player would get + have it neutralized: 20.
This way underworld "grows" like other elements do (I think?). And it has a complete different "method" still: they can "neutralize" & earn at the same time.. Yet have to keep moving (strategically) to have a consistent income. For balance make it:
N * x
Where x is the original electrum a player would achieve, and N is a balancing constant, say 0.75?
So in above example you would earn:
15 e.
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Maybe make the action "pillage" instead of "neutralize"? - Then an underworld player gets electrum based on what somebody of the original element would get when they "work":
ie say as a fire user you earn 20 electrum / work action.. Now an underworld can neutralize a fire hex: he would then get the original "earnings" a fire player would get + have it neutralized: 20.
This way underworld "grows" like other elements do (I think?). And it has a complete different "method" still: they can "neutralize" & earn at the same time.. Yet have to keep moving (strategically) to have a consistent income.
Yes that's basically what I am saying.
Something to keep in mind is that Work costs 4 AP while Capture only costs 2. That may be okay, since UW is underpowered atm, but I thought it was worth mentioning in this discussion.
For balance make it:
N * x
Where x is the original electrum a player would achieve, and N is a balancing constant, say 0.75?
So in above example you would earn:
15 e.
There are strengths and weaknesses in both methods. Most players can safely sit in a city and work over and over again until they have the money they need. Underworlders would need to be constantly moving around out in the open, and would be annoying whatever nation who's hexes they were neutralizing, quite likely resulting in being attacked by members of that nation. Neutralizing a hex isn't terribly beneficial for UW, as all it does is give them more mark options if they get in a fight in that exact hex. Moving and earning on the same turn will be great when there's a nice line of enemy hexes between you and a destination, but not so great when you use up all the nearby hexes and have to either travel a long ways or pillage from a potential ally.
Which is to say, I don't think it requires further balancing at this point, at least not until it gets tested.
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:time's T2 "Research" skill cannot be used to learn a T2 skill that would not otherwise be available, can it?
Ex:
I have Research, and the T1 :darkness skill Quanta Leech. I have a skill point and a Relic available. I use Research to temporarily gain the T1 :darkness skill Spell Resistance, and then use my skill point to learn Shadow Leap, a T2 skill.
I know the answer is most likely no, I am merely trying to confirm. The wording on Research also slightly leads to this conclusion, as it reads "Replace this skill with any Tier 1 skill from any of the 13 skill trees."
Also, the text is not clear on whether the 6 day recharge begins after the temporary skill leaves or as you gain it. I assume the former, but would like to be certain.
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How does resetting your character work?
Just reset everything like it was when you started. Use blank character sheet as an example.
Related to this, we might have to start looking into buffing UW a bit, especially the revenue side of things.
Everything including skills, quests completed, reputation, etc? Or just everything electrum related like cards, items and money?
Does resetting require an action?
And yes, some way for UW to get revenue, either singularly or as a faction, would be good. As-is we can't effectively buy back cards if we lose them. If I get some brilliant idea for how it could be done, I'll be sure to post it. :)
Kuro suggested a system where when UW players neutralize hexes, they get some electrum as a reward. Theme-wise, we could see it as UW player pillaging the hex. This should help a bit, but I think more buffs are probably needed.
Just thinking out loud here, but what if the amount gained by "pillaging" was based on how large the kingdom that owned the hex was? That way it would be more dynamic, and would encourage UW players to weaken the more powerful nations by neutralizing their hexes (which fits with the Anarchy theme of UW). As far as exact numbers go, we could try just making the reward for pillaging a hex the same as the amount given to one of that nations players for working. It'd allow UW to possibly get as much "work" money as the richer nations, but on the other hand would be much more dangerous, since the richer an enemy you loot, the more powerful an enemy you make too. It has a lot of advantages and disadvantages compared to the typical Work action, but I think it would balance out pretty close.
Also, when you say resetting a character reverts "everything", does that include skills, quests completed, reputation, etc? Or just everything electrum related like cards, items and money?
Does resetting require an action?
I think this is a perfect solution. I especially love the "Robin Hood" effect that will encourage UW players to "steal from the rich" rather than pestering elements that are already at a disadvantage. UW would act as a kind of balanced which fits their anti-mono theme perfectly.
Resetting will reset everything. It will be Day 1 all over again.
As far as exact numbers go, we could try just making the reward for pillaging a hex the same as the amount given to one of that nations players for working.
Something to keep in mind is that Work costs 4 AP while Capture only costs 2. That may be okay, since UW is underpowered atm, but I thought it was worth mentioning in this discussion.
It might not be that big of a deal because when you 'Work' all you need to do is sit around in your City and count your money. For UW players it will be more difficult because they are under a threat of attack. If it turns out to be unfair advantage to UW players, we can always nerf it a bit.
:time's T2 "Research" skill cannot be used to learn a T2 skill that would not otherwise be available, can it?
Ex:
I have Research, and the T1 :darkness skill Quanta Leech. I have a skill point and a Relic available. I use Research to temporarily gain the T1 :darkness skill Spell Resistance, and then use my skill point to learn Shadow Leap, a T2 skill.
I know the answer is most likely no, I am merely trying to confirm. The wording on Research also slightly leads to this conclusion, as it reads "Replace this skill with any Tier 1 skill from any of the 13 skill trees."
Also, the text is not clear on whether the 6 day recharge begins after the temporary skill leaves or as you gain it. I assume the former, but would like to be certain.
Nope. You can use the skill but you are not considered having that skill.
Each 6 Days, you can use 'Research' to learn a new skill that will stay with you that full 6 Days without the option to cancel it. There is no recharge between skill ending and using 'Research' again.
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Are there any restriction on the research ACTION?
Can it be done every where, or only in a town, or only in a town of the element of your desired tier 1 skill?
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If I just want to give a teammate of mine a pile of Electrum, does that require a Trade action? If not, does it require us to be in the same hex at least? Also, can I deposit Electrum in my teammates' bank accounts if I'm in the capital?
Also, where do you buy a new Stone of Return and for how much? It's not in the Merchant anywhere. Can you carry more than one Stone of Return at a time?
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Simple question: Is there a list of the quests? If so, where?
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Simple question: Is there a list of the quests? If so, where?
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,31879.0.html
Only other quest at this moment is "Expand Borders"
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Simple question: Is there a list of the quests? If so, where?
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,31879.0.html
Only other quest at this moment is "Expand Borders"
There's also "sending a message" and "cultural expansion".
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I think the data tab in the :aether character sheets got screwed up. The Actions tab, Data tab, and all the dropdowns are messed up...
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Just wondering about trading with merchants. I am in the :time town and want to sell some of my cards.. can i do that ? if so how much is each card worth? or can i only sell my cards in my own city?
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Just wondering about trading with merchants. I am in the :time town and want to sell some of my cards.. can i do that ? if so how much is each card worth? or can i only sell my cards in my own city?
I need to know this too... how do you know how much to buy or sell cards for when you're anot in your element's city/town?
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kinda need a response today? so ic an do my actions? otherwise im sent back a day due to no response...
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kinda need a response today? so ic an do my actions? otherwise im sent back a day due to no response...
I believe you can buy and sell using the Time City Merchant prices.
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but if i am say.. selling a darkness card.. what is the selling price? is it the same as in darkness city?
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but if i am say.. selling a darkness card.. what is the selling price? is it the same as in darkness city?
Same as in Outlaw City.
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Just wondering, Which order do I learn skills in the skill tree?
For example (Underworld skill tree) would I need to learn Bargaining and Improved Trading before Swindling or would I just need 1?
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Just wondering, Which order do I learn skills in the skill tree?
For example (Underworld skill tree) would I need to learn Bargaining and Improved Trading before Swindling or would I just need 1?
You have to have BOTH to learn Swindling. Which mean Champion of XXX needs every skill.
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how much Exp did i get for beating napalm again?
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how much Exp did i get for beating napalm again?
+ 5 exp
+ 3 :death reputation (under the smilie on your CS)
- 1 :fire reputation
+ 6 cards (see salvage posted by SG)
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Just a quick question. Is it possible to sign off of this event? Because I'm on the event currently and recently I've been hit by a wave so if I continued any further all I'd be doing is using up a spot and not doing anything. I simply have no time.
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Just a quick question. Is it possible to sign off of this event? Because I'm on the event currently and recently I've been hit by a wave so if I continued any further all I'd be doing is using up a spot and not doing anything. I simply have no time.
Either PM SG saying you have to drop out or keep saying it now and then in WoE threads until she sees you saying it.
So Reputation...how does it work? I just beat a Death member of the same level. I get +1 rep to my element? -1 rep to death element?
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How will Improved Trading work, I would write Improved Trading *Player*? and how will the othere player Im trading with write this?
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How will Improved Trading work, I would write Improved Trading *Player*? and how will the othere player Im trading with write this?
Most likely you and the other player would both just use the "trade with" action.
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How do I set My starting Skill?
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How do I set My starting Skill?
Go to your Character Sheet (probably tab 8 )
You see "Mark of Life" in a grey box under MARK SKILLS?
Right next to that is a section TIER 1 SKILLS, click the grey box under that and a drop down menu will appear (click the little arrow). Select your skill.
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How exactly is Work revenue calculated? Because :earth seems to control less territory than we do, make less Elemental revenue than we do, and yet their Work is worth more. Why? 8)
Also
- How much does a Stone of Return cost?
- Is a Stone of Return available at towns, or only in cities?
- Side question: is there anything keeping us from founding more than one town?
- Can you carry more than one Stone of Return at a time?
- Can you give a bound Stone of Return to a teammate for them to use?
- Can you give an unbound Stone of Return to a teammate for them to Bind and use?
- Thanks.
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How exactly is Work revenue calculated? Because :earth seems to control less territory than we do, make less Elemental revenue than we do, and yet their Work is worth more. Why? 8)
Work Revenue = Element Revenue / No. of players in Element / 2. Then round up/down.
And I am not sure about the rest.
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Ah, so the difference stems from the fact that they haven't received their newest Recruit yet, and we have. Gotcha. :)
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How will Improved Trading work, I would write Improved Trading *Player*? and how will the othere player Im trading with write this?
Most likely you and the other player would both just use the "trade with" action.
I wouldnt use trade with ? Special skills go in the Special Action Section >.<
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How many upgraded cards can I use in the battle? I couldn't find that anymore.
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How many upgraded cards can I use in the battle? I couldn't find that anymore.
Your Character Sheet. Look at the Cards section. Below the Total Number of cards for that Element.
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Thanks. What cards are exactly allowed in the battles? Rares and uncommon cards too?
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How will Improved Trading work, I would write Improved Trading *Player*? and how will the othere player Im trading with write this?
Most likely you and the other player would both just use the "trade with" action.
I wouldnt use trade with ? Special skills go in the Special Action Section >.<
I'm not 100% certain, but I think Improved Trading isn't a special action, just a skill that enhances a basic action.
Thanks. What cards are exactly allowed in the battles? Rares and uncommon cards too?
Any cards your WoE character owns. Look at the bottom half of your Character Sheet to see the list of what you own.
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Yeah, but I meant what cards are allowed for me to own?
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Yeah, but I meant what cards are allowed for me to own?
You can own anything if you get it, by trading.
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Yeah, but I meant what cards are allowed for me to own?
Any cards you start with or buy. You buy cards from the merchants using the "trade" action in a city. The merchants have different cards and prices for those cards depending on which city you're in. View the merchants here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&key=0AiwMGGakrptadFU5eWQtaWFENjNQcUlONzlqWDVwWGc&hl=en_US&gid=31
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Where is information on skills and what is required to use them?
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Where is information on skills and what is required to use them?
Do you mean this?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&key=0AgB8fZX7y8kydHBtU0RNOC1yeFk2cTRIRzhCaDFyekE&hl=en_US&gid=8
Or this?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&key=0AgB8fZX7y8kydHBtU0RNOC1yeFk2cTRIRzhCaDFyekE&hl=en_US&gid=21
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Where is information on skills and what is required to use them?
Do you mean this?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&key=0AgB8fZX7y8kydHBtU0RNOC1yeFk2cTRIRzhCaDFyekE&hl=en_US&gid=8
Or this?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&key=0AgB8fZX7y8kydHBtU0RNOC1yeFk2cTRIRzhCaDFyekE&hl=en_US&gid=21
Both of those are same basic info. is there anything that provides more detail?
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Where is information on skills and what is required to use them?
Do you mean this?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&key=0AgB8fZX7y8kydHBtU0RNOC1yeFk2cTRIRzhCaDFyekE&hl=en_US&gid=8
Or this?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&key=0AgB8fZX7y8kydHBtU0RNOC1yeFk2cTRIRzhCaDFyekE&hl=en_US&gid=21
Or this?
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,17354.0.html#post_skills
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How will Improved Trading work, I would write Improved Trading *Player*? and how will the othere player Im trading with write this?
Most likely you and the other player would both just use the "trade with" action.
I wouldnt use trade with ? Special skills go in the Special Action Section >.<
Improved trading costs 2 action points ...
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After you beat someone you get to use some action points, does this mean you could capture the hex now if you just beat the only player from another team on that hex? (I assume the answer is yes, would be silly otherwise, but just want to make sure)
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After you beat someone you get to use some action points, does this mean you could capture the hex now if you just beat the only player from another team on that hex? (I assume the answer is yes, would be silly otherwise, but just want to make sure)
Yes, you can do that.
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- How much does a Stone of Return cost?
- Is a Stone of Return available at towns, or only in cities?
- Side question: is there anything keeping us from founding more than one town?
- Can you carry more than one Stone of Return at a time?
- Can you give a bound Stone of Return to a teammate for them to use?
- Can you give an unbound Stone of Return to a teammate for them to Bind and use?
- Thanks.
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Where can i suggest a really simple but very nice quest?
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Where can i suggest a really simple but very nice quest?
PM SG and Kuroaito I guess. There is currently no dire need for quest ideas though.
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Hi first of all, I'm new here, and I started to like this of WoE and I got a lot of questions (note: I'm a Latin, so my english may not be so good)
- The game is already playing? I mean, if I enter WoE I will be at disadvantage with a lot of persons?
- I must wait until I have 30 forum post? I can't start playing right now?
- I got a lot of upgraded cards (for me, it's a lot jeje) so I can't play them? Because two of them are rare weapons!
- I got two game accounts, I think I can only play with ome right?
- what happens if I don't have the cards in my game account?
Thanks I'll appreciste your help :) :fire :earth :gravity
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Hi first of all, I'm new here, and I started to like this of WoE and I got a lot of questions (note: I'm a Latin, so my english may not be so good)
- The game is already playing? I mean, if I enter WoE I will be at disadvantage with a lot of persons?
- I must wait until I have 30 forum post? I can't start playing right now?
- I got a lot of upgraded cards (for me, it's a lot jeje) so I can't play them? Because two of them are rare weapons!
- I got two game accounts, I think I can only play with ome right?
- what happens if I don't have the cards in my game account?
Thanks I'll appreciste your help :) :fire :earth :gravity
Hi and welcome!
WoE is not active right now, but the beta testers will get to keep their characters (I think), though nobody will be at a huge disadvantage.
There is probably something you can do with upped cards, but you can't use all of them.
I think you can use both but one is probably better.
Well, if they're non rares, buy them. You're not forced to use any cards, you can buy and sell cards that you want/don't want to use.
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1. The game is already playing? I mean, if I enter WoE I will be at disadvantage with a lot of persons?
2. I must wait until I have 30 forum post? I can't start playing right now?
3. I got a lot of upgraded cards (for me, it's a lot jeje) so I can't play them? Because two of them are rare weapons!
4. I got two game accounts, I think I can only play with ome right?
5. what happens if I don't have the cards in my game account?
1. WoE Alpha and Beta have ended. The start date of the official launch is unknown but won't be that far in the future. You will not have a disadvantage.
2. Yep, you need 30 forum posts. That's not that hard is it? :)
3. You can use certain upgraded cards yes.
4. You can use any of those two to play your WoE battles.
5. You can;t use them in your WoE army/deck
TIP: read the rules! :D
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OTHIHcSx0VCWkwTT0kNOZJJp4fin3925Junidk11-Dk/edit?hl=en_US
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Oops, I forgot one question. Yes, you need 30 posts.
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Thanks NikaZaslavsky and Jappert, you solved my problems
And actually, I read the rules, but I had those questions unsolved XD
Thanks, wish me luck with those 28 post ._.
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hi
are there other charges on a team, besides being the king? I guess that the first king of a team is chosen by the WoE crew, and how could that position change?
I want to play now! :P
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I forget if the problem with inactivity during the course of the game was solved or not, and I don't know if a solution of any kind was thought of, but maybe you could make getting yourself resurrected from the spirit world into your own town like usual an action that you can do if you're in the spirit world. That way maybe the inactives don't get resurrected to die again if they died because of inactivity? I dunno, this is just a random thought I had, not to mention the WoE part of the forum is feeling lonely :(