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Re: In Development: Steam Machine | Steam Machine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7164.msg77531#msg77531
« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2010, 08:20:29 pm »
I'm infatuated with this card - even though I don't use :water that much, this idea is pretty ingenious (at least in terms of the 'losing steam' effect), and I expect every :water user out there to go crazy over this. Beautiful art as well, and the upgraded version looks like it'll be a monster to kill (+15 HP = rewind only please). XD

...maybe we'll have a false god specializing in 'mechanical' cards soon. ;)

Awesome artwork and great synergy between Water and Air. Zanz made the most "creative" card until now. Seems fine and balanced to me.
I don't get what :air has to do with this...
He's probably referring to the synergy between :air and :fire, and with this card, water can be tossed into the mix of :water, :fire, and :air. If you had an additional Poseidon thrown in, you'd be Captain planet.  :P

(Note: Flooding + Rain of Fire = major creature control, and Nymph Queen (to an extent) + Deflagration = decent permanent control, and this just bridges the gap between two VERY distinct/different elements)

Re: In Development: Steam Machine | Steam Machine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7164.msg77541#msg77541
« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2010, 08:26:55 pm »
Putting it with fire is just an excuse to have it rage potioned  :P
I'm kind of half against machine presence in elements, but I cant refuse that picture. I never really use water, or fire, but would be willing to spend 1500 just to have that card ;D

Edit: This will probably boost shard of readiness as well.

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Re: In Development: Steam Machine | Steam Machine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7164.msg77553#msg77553
« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2010, 08:38:48 pm »
Edit: This will probably boost shard of readiness as well.
I totally forgot about the new shard!

+4 attack a turn (ignoring the -1, of course) for free.  Now I am glad Zanz nerfed the shard.   :o
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Re: In Development: Steam Machine | Steam Machine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7164.msg77637#msg77637
« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2010, 10:16:57 pm »
Ahhh, yeah, it looks a way to save the shard of useless, but the shard wouldnt be a much greater effect before the nerf. It would just give an extra free turn.

And, I dont think this card can create alone a good sinergy between water and fire. Trident, for example, is powerfull, and still theres no sinergy between earth and water. Fire is usually stronger than earth, but I still think thats too little to a good sinergy. Even more because its expensive, and starts at 0 attack. Look at Graviton Fire Eater...

Interesting card concept, maybe its worthy a buff.

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Re: In Development: Steam Machine | Steam Machine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7164.msg77666#msg77666
« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2010, 10:44:03 pm »
Am I the only one that thinks Fire and Water are opposing elements and should NOT be paired together?

I like the picture, I like the abilities but I don't like the pairing of water and fire.  There are certian elements that are natural enemies... Life & Death, Darkness & Light etc.  Also, a machine that runs on Steam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam) should belong to the realm of Air.

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Re: In Development: Steam Machine | Steam Machine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7164.msg77668#msg77668
« Reply #29 on: May 29, 2010, 10:46:42 pm »
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There are certian elements that are natural enemies... Life & Death, Darkness & Light etc.
Like Aether and Time, who share Anubis. ;) I think there is nothing wrong with the pairing of opposing elements; in fact, I encourage it for its synergies.

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Re: In Development: Steam Machine | Steam Machine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7164.msg77748#msg77748
« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2010, 12:23:27 am »
The skill does effect only the "current" attack power. And that is also why the description does not say "lose -1/-0 until attack power is 0". Example: blessing this results in a stable 3/11 creature.
I'm not sure if I understand. So, this card only loses ATK after its ability is used once? Then does it lose 2 ATK per turn when the ability is used twice, and 3 ATK per turn when used three times, etc?
No, the abilities are unrelated, BS.

In strict game-mechanic-ese, this card would read:

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Ability (Active): :fire :fire :fire : This creature gains +4/+0 to it's current (not full) attack.

Ability (Passive): This creature loses 1 point from the absolute value of it's current (not full) attack at the end of every turn until it reaches the absolute value of it's full attack.

Since buffs like Blessing affect Full Attack, the bonus from them wouldn't be stripped away by the passive ability.  But since Antimatter does affect Current Attack (and not Full Attack), a Steam Machine that was pumped up to 14/15 with it's own ability and then given Antimatter would be -14/15, then -13/15, then -12/15.

BUT if it was then BLESSED, it would become -9/15 with a Full Attack of 3, so the passive ability would tick down until the Steam Machine reached -3/15, and it would stay there.



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Re: In Development: Steam Machine | Steam Machine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7164.msg77750#msg77750
« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2010, 12:24:11 am »
great card. :)
this is to be available in the bazaar right?

No. Lets hope Zanz will add it. Then people would do  :water:death and  :fire

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Re: In Development: Steam Machine | Steam Machine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7164.msg77776#msg77776
« Reply #32 on: May 30, 2010, 12:55:46 am »
what i meant is : this is a common card and not a rare right?
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Re: In Development: Steam Machine | Steam Machine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7164.msg77777#msg77777
« Reply #33 on: May 30, 2010, 12:56:28 am »
Presumably, yes. There is no reason for this not to be a regular creature.

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Re: In Development: Steam Machine | Steam Machine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7164.msg77779#msg77779
« Reply #34 on: May 30, 2010, 12:57:44 am »
I know its not a rare. Its not even out in the bazzar yet.

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Re: In Development: Steam Machine | Steam Machine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7164.msg77814#msg77814
« Reply #35 on: May 30, 2010, 01:41:06 am »
I know its not a rare. Its not even out in the bazzar yet.
Zanz doesn't automatically release things in the trainer people.  Just because its not there has no connection to it being rare or not either.

 

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