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Re: Ice Bolt / Ice Lance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2073.msg264828#msg264828
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2011, 06:07:20 pm »
Snazzy buff, but it seems more like late-game use, considering that there's few options to amass so much water

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Re: Ice Bolt / Ice Lance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2073.msg264868#msg264868
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2011, 06:33:29 pm »
Well, even if you cast it on Turn 1, it's still a 40% chance to stop the opponent's weapon for 3 turns.  That's nothing to sneeze at.  Build up 13 quanta and it's a coin flip.
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Re: Ice Bolt / Ice Lance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2073.msg264878#msg264878
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2011, 06:48:11 pm »
Ice Bolt and Shockwave sitting in a tree..

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They were meant for each other, and with this, my wish that Ice Bolt should have a chance to freeze the enemy's weapon has been granted.
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Re: Ice Bolt / Ice Lance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2073.msg264888#msg264888
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2011, 07:00:55 pm »
Personal preference I guess ><
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Re: Ice Bolt / Ice Lance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2073.msg264894#msg264894
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2011, 07:11:19 pm »
Do protected/untargetable weapons become targetable when frozen?  If so, do they remain targetable after thawing?
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Re: Ice Bolt / Ice Lance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2073.msg264895#msg264895
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2011, 07:14:04 pm »
Do protected/untargetable weapons become targetable when frozen?  If so, do they remain targetable after thawing?
I don't think you can target Immaterial Weapons.

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Re: Ice Bolt / Ice Lance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2073.msg264905#msg264905
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2011, 07:33:19 pm »
Do protected/untargetable weapons become targetable when frozen?  If so, do they remain targetable after thawing?
To shatter a weapon you have to first freeze it with the bolt or with a voodoo combo, and then use Shockwave. However, what you are targetting all the time is the enemy elemental, not the weapon slot.

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Re: Ice Bolt / Ice Lance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2073.msg264906#msg264906
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2011, 07:38:33 pm »
That's correct.  Ice Bolt/Lance affects the player, freezing the weapon slot, not the weapon itself.  Imagine your arm being frozen, so you can't swing.  The weapon itself is still immaterial and thus untargetable.
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Re: Ice Bolt / Ice Lance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2073.msg264907#msg264907
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2011, 07:38:49 pm »
Do protected/untargetable weapons become targetable when frozen?  If so, do they remain targetable after thawing?
To shatter a weapon you have to first freeze it with the bolt or with a voodoo combo, and then use Shockwave. However, what you are targetting all the time is the enemy elemental, not the weapon slot.
Thanks.  I just tried it out in trainer.  If Essence formula is correct, and ice lance does minimum 2 damage, then you always have at least 40% chance to freeze weapon.  A buff for reflective shields.
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Re: Ice Bolt / Ice Lance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2073.msg264960#msg264960
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2011, 08:56:36 pm »
A buff for reflective shields.
Which results in a nerf to all kinds of bolts and Shockwave. Conclusion: don't buff things because you may end up nerfing them in the process :P.

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Re: Ice Bolt / Ice Lance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2073.msg265585#msg265585
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2011, 05:39:51 pm »
Can the shied get frozen if there is no weapon?

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Re: Ice Bolt / Ice Lance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2073.msg268121#msg268121
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2011, 01:46:33 pm »
I actually have my doubts about this being able to freeze Immaterial weapons.  I just tested this multiple times in trainer, with 140+ :water gathered at the end (when the freeze chance should be 100%) and I could not freeze the opponent's Morning Glory.  I later tested the same against PA'd Pulvies.  Again, I could not freeze them.  Next I tried against unprotected Pulvies.  This worked as intended.  Conclusion:  Ice Bolt can not freeze Immaterial/protected weapons.
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