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Re: War #8 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55465.msg1157128#msg1157128
« Reply #48 on: September 25, 2014, 11:53:27 am »
Just a little rewording, but this rule in general is tough to enforce. It is there more for marks and nymphs (player A has no marks is subbed by player B who has 6 marks). All other cards can be grinded, so these won't really be strictly enforced.
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Re: War #8 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55465.msg1159882#msg1159882
« Reply #49 on: October 11, 2014, 11:37:11 pm »
I just wanted to confirm my understanding of transmutation after battles.

"When salvaging cards into your Vault, you may choose to transmute them into cards of your own element instead. Salvaged cards may be transmuted at a two to one (2:1) ratio into any in-element card which you do not already have 12 copies of in your Vault."

I'm thinking that you all want this to mean that you can transmute cards to have up to 12 copies of any card; is that correct?  e.g. Earth has 11 copies of antlion in their vault, they win a match; can they transmute this into 3 more antlions (=14 total), or rather only 1 more to equal 12 (and then have 4 other salvage to transmute or take)?

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Re: War #8 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55465.msg1159884#msg1159884
« Reply #50 on: October 12, 2014, 12:15:11 am »
The latter. The weird case is if your opponent's deck had 4 antlions, you have 11 antlions in vault, & you want to transmute to 12 before salvaging the 4 antlions. Transmutation in this weird case shouldn't be allowed (unless you don't salvage any antlions)
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Re: War #8 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55465.msg1159887#msg1159887
« Reply #51 on: October 12, 2014, 12:24:04 am »
The latter. The weird case is if your opponent's deck had 4 antlions, you have 11 antlions in vault, & you want to transmute to 12 before salvaging the 4 antlions. Transmutation in this weird case shouldn't be allowed (unless you don't salvage any antlions)

In order to further clarify, the order in which everything takes place is as follows:

1. Salvage and discard (essentially simultaneous)
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So, if you salvaged antlions and have 12 or more after salvage, then none can be transmuted.

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Re: War #8 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55465.msg1159909#msg1159909
« Reply #52 on: October 12, 2014, 04:08:12 am »
The latter. The weird case is if your opponent's deck had 4 antlions, you have 11 antlions in vault, & you want to transmute to 12 before salvaging the 4 antlions. Transmutation in this weird case shouldn't be allowed (unless you don't salvage any antlions)

In order to further clarify, the order in which everything takes place is as follows:

1. Salvage and discard (essentially simultaneous)
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So, if you salvaged antlions and have 12 or more after salvage, then none can be transmuted.

Hmmmmm, so a team may begin the War with up to 24 count of in-element cards but after War starts up-to-24 is the limit during salvage/discard but up-to-12 is the limit for transmutation (with Conversion being unlimited from any-card-to-a-pillar/pendulum)?
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Re: War #8 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55465.msg1159953#msg1159953
« Reply #53 on: October 12, 2014, 11:51:44 am »
No. 24 is the limit for vault building. There is no limit on salvaging. You could salvage 6 antlions every round and finish war with almost 100 antlions.

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Re: War #8 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55465.msg1159968#msg1159968
« Reply #54 on: October 12, 2014, 01:58:49 pm »
...finish war with almost 100 antlions.

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Re: War #8 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55465.msg1159984#msg1159984
« Reply #55 on: October 12, 2014, 03:15:44 pm »
...finish war with almost 100 antlions.

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would have thought that might have been an earth goal :P

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Re: War #8 - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55465.msg1159992#msg1159992
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...finish war with almost 100 antlions.

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