War #12 - Suggestions and Feedback

[kaempfer13]

Admins havent been online for 3 days and taken wms rights to grant/take access

[shockcannon]

I would like to request a new rule:

Relics can be used to give one upgrade to a deck OR they can be used to add an actual copy of the relic card to a deck for that round (this card would not count towards or against the 50% in-element rule).

[Wyand]

Maybe it is not the right place / time, but... Purple Dragon is too expensive. 1,5x price of Emerald? What?
Same price as Azure?

[kaempfer13]

life and air have a bunch of more quantaefficient attackers, which is why their dragon doesnt stand out as much by comparison. A lot of entropy is balanced around nova and discord being a bit too good, life has pretty much efficient hitters and pretty much only that (some healing and some other stuff), i suppose air dragon isnt more expensive due to airs generally high prices. either way, now is too late to talk about that.

[Wyand]

life and air have a bunch of more quantaefficient attackers, which is why their dragon doesnt stand out as much by comparison.

So they have even more attack power, so let's make their dragon cheaper? Strange logic.

A lot of entropy is balanced around nova and discord being a bit too good,

Nova can be used by anyone... in fact it IS used. If Discord is considered 'too good', then it should be reflected only in Discord's price,
not in the Dragon's.

i suppose air dragon isnt more expensive due to airs generally high prices. either way, now is too late to talk about that.

I don't want to make air's dragon more expensive, I think entropy's dragon is too expensive. Btw, just one moment earlier you argued
that "Purple Dragon is expensive, because that element has other powerful (and pricy) cards", and now you say
that "Azure dragon isn't expensive, because that element has many pricy cards". Eh?

either way, now is too late to talk about that.

I know, but it just bugged me for weeks, had to spill it. Maybe a good advice/idea for possible future wars.

[kaempfer13]

Imo airs dragon could easily cost more. Point is you cant just take the cards side by side without context. I'm not gonna get overly defensive over decisions i am not responsible for in the first place. the situation for the 3 elements is completely different. Life is specialized on efficient creatures, so other than airborne status the dragon is just Bread, Eggs, Breaded Eggs. Entropy has 2 powercards and a bunch of other stuff (at a reasonable price presumably). Air literally only has ffq and ug for budget deck options, everything else is expensive. a side by side comparison doesnt make sense as the impact the respective dragons have on their element is very different. market prices should be discussed before and after the war respectively (for balancing reasons), in the middle of it it just generates salt and looking at a single card is pretty inefficient too.

[Wyand]

Thanks for the explanation, I'm ok with the idea that there are deeper reasons than side by side comparison.
At the same time, if you look at offensive Entropy creatures, you'll see that they are pretty pricy, too. Nvm, let's continue
this after war.

[serprex]

As a final remark re market prices, please remember that market prices don't only serve the role of balancing war, but also of creating a fresh meta

[Afdarenty]

As a final remark re market prices, please remember that market prices don't only serve the role of balancing war, but also of creating a fresh meta

That might have been the aim, but I don't think I've seen it succeed just yet.

[immortal feud]

cant wait for the 2 elements per team meta

[InsignificantWeeaboo]

Are we supposed to have access to a section called "War General Private Section"?

[Higurashi]

Generals are, yes. It's for WM-to-Generals and General-to-General discussion. Hasn't been needed in a while though.