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Re: War #10 - Round 7 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63337.msg1248624#msg1248624
« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2016, 09:36:15 pm »
Arth, we didnt know WMs allowed people to break rules. In that case, we would like to take our bets back in case we lose them, btw.
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Re: War #10 - Round 7 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63337.msg1248625#msg1248625
« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2016, 09:36:57 pm »
gamble = taking risks

no one forced you to use that EC and bet any relics to be fair

wake up people...

Yeah, we should have not taken the risk and predict the fact that you don't obey the rules.
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Re: War #10 - Round 7 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63337.msg1248628#msg1248628
« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2016, 09:42:58 pm »
But we took permission from WMs before doing a thing and, you know, WMs = Rules. So, have we really broken any rules?
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Re: War #10 - Round 7 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63337.msg1248629#msg1248629
« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2016, 09:44:47 pm »
But we took permission from WMs before doing a thing and, you know, WMs = Rules. So, have we really broken any rules?

are u kidding or?

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Re: War #10 - Round 7 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63337.msg1248630#msg1248630
« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2016, 09:45:09 pm »
no, wms is not equal to rules. WMs have allowed rules to be broken. Kinda surprised higu hasnt said much on it.
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Re: War #10 - Round 7 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63337.msg1248631#msg1248631
« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2016, 09:45:34 pm »
But we took permission from WMs before doing a thing and, you know, WMs = Rules. So, have we really broken any rules?

But it's not fair for anyone else, WMs are here to enforce the rules they created at the beginning, not add new stuff that benefits only 1 team and that makes 0 actual sense.
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Re: War #10 - Round 7 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63337.msg1248632#msg1248632
« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2016, 09:45:50 pm »
If wms gimme access to all vaults, am i gonna go wm=rules so just play people? Right....
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Re: War #10 - Round 7 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63337.msg1248633#msg1248633
« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2016, 09:55:56 pm »
If wms gimme access to all vaults, am i gonna go wm=rules so just play people? Right....

If WMs give you access to all vaults and it is a WM ruling it is fine actually. They just should give access to everyone else to make things fair.

But I think the problem with all this is because it is a rule change that happened mid-war instead of being enforced since the beginning...
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Re: War #10 - Round 7 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63337.msg1248635#msg1248635
« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2016, 10:07:23 pm »
Transmutation happens during deckbuilding, if wms agreed to allow vault to shrink in size in advance because of it they are breaking their own rules. Which is ridiculous, the fact that it was a backroom deal of which no public information was given exponentially increases the outrage on this matter. We want to transmute 6 to 3 cards, too, bringing our vault to 124 cards. This should give us one matchup fewer, too, no? If not, why are wms allowing Light to break their (wms') own rules with their own permission, but not Fire?

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Re: War #10 - Round 7 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63337.msg1248636#msg1248636
« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2016, 10:13:48 pm »
If wms gimme access to all vaults, am i gonna go wm=rules so just play people? Right....

If WMs give you access to all vaults and it is a WM ruling it is fine actually. They just should give access to everyone else to make things fair.

But I think the problem with all this is because it is a rule change that happened mid-war instead of being enforced since the beginning...
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Re: War #10 - Round 7 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63337.msg1248637#msg1248637
« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2016, 10:14:10 pm »
Transmutation happens during deckbuilding

Is this mentioned within the War rules?

Btw, Backroom Deals wording is the following: "Conspiring with other teams is forbidden". We have not conspired with anyone in here, let alone an other War team. We discussed stuff with the WMs.
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Re: War #10 - Round 7 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63337.msg1248638#msg1248638
« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2016, 10:18:35 pm »
Arth, you cannot transmute stuff in advance for next round. If you are allowed, then ill like to do our discards at the end of war pls, once we have won. Kthnx.
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