War #10 - Round 7

[Physsion]

WAR #10 Round 7 Chaos encircles the area where the mighty fighters continue to battle random fights of pure anger and rage.	Read the War Rules Contact Warmasters News Air maintains a commanding lead, while the end appears to be drawing near for Light and Life - can they recover?
Deckbuilding Duel phase has started 15/10/2016 0000 GMT Teams have to build decks for all players who are fighting during this round. All team members participate in the planning. Please do not post your decks in public or talk about them in chat. All decks must be made ready before the timer goes to zero, after which, editing decks is strictly forbidden. Failure to have all of the decks ready will lead to a severe card penalty and/or automatic losses. It is highly recommended that all team members double-check their decks before the duels start.	Duels Fighting ends! 18/10/2016 0000 GMT Duel phase starts when deckbuilding ends. PM your opponent and try to find a suitable time. Time Zone Converter might be useful here. If you cannot find a time when you both are online, please contact Warmasters--mathman101 and Physsion--immediately. If the match does not happen, you both lose by default unless one of you is clearly more active and flexible. Duels are "best-of-five", you must use the deck and mark built during the previous phase, and you cannot make any changes to your deck or mark during the round. Please make sure to record your duels as shown in the Rules: (Air Gen) KingKiller 3 - 1 (Water Lt) LordOwner (Air Sld) KingKiller 3 - 1 (Water Gen) LordOwner (Air Lt) KingKiller 3 - 1 (Water Sld) (Sub) LordOwner (SUB indicates that someone else played instead of LordOwner)
Event Card Please post in your section if you would like to reroll your salvage at least 24hrs before deckbuilding deadline. This event card is used for individual salvages. Please post which decks you would like to reroll your salvage from. Outcomes will be decided by chat dice, as rolled by Warmasters. This is for the current R7 deckbuilding/salvage/discard phase.	Battles Air has received a bye Spoiler for Aether: 10 Gen. deuce22 Sera 17 Vangelios Vineroz 24 blrawen Odii Odsen 13 hainkarga Gen. iancudorinmarian 6 mrpaper Ginyu Spoiler for Air: 15 Gen. Afdarenty andretimpa 4 Hyroen Spielkind 26 chrispybacon84 ARTHANASIOS 7 trashduke Gen. Kuroaitou Spoiler for Darkness: 18 Gen. Aves Gen. Blacksmith 1 RapidStar_ Naesala 10 Sera Gen. deuce22 3 Zawadx TheArrogantOne 15 andretimpa Gen. Afdarenty Spoiler for Death: 16 Gen. rob77dp RavingRabbid 11 Espithel majofa 19 asdw152 ji412jo Spoiler for Earth: 18 Gen. Blacksmith Gen. Aves 9 Jenkar Silver Emerald 12 Ryli fabian771 19 ji412jo asdw152 22 manaboy100 TheonlyrealBeef Spoiler for Entropy: 13 Gen. iancudorinmarian hainkarga 8 Calindu vagman13 3 TheArrogantOne Zawadx 2 aaronk474 xn0ize 25 dark ripper Gen. JonathanCrazyJ Spoiler for Fire: 20 Gen. killsdazombies Gen. worldwideweb3 22 TheonlyrealBeef manaboy100 14 godisnowonline Manuel 5 theelkspeaks Timdood3 2 xn0ize aaronk474 Spoiler for Gravity: 20 Gen. worldwideweb3 Gen. killsdazombies 1 Naesala RapidStar_ 24 Odii Odsen blrawen 21 kaempfer13 DANIEELA 11 majofa Espithel Spoiler for Life: 23 Gen. Fippe94 Gen. Discord 5 Timdood3 theelkspeaks Spoiler for Light: 23 Gen. Discord Gen. Fippe94 26 ARTHANASIOS chrispybacon84 9 Silver Emerald Jenkar Spoiler for Time: 7 Gen. Kuroaitou trashduke 21 DANIEELA kaempfer13 17 Vineroz Vangelios 12 fabian771 Ryli 8 vagman13 Calindu Spoiler for Water: 25 Gen. JonathanCrazyJ dark ripper 6 Ginyu mrpaper 14 Manuel godisnowonline 16 RavingRabbid Gen. rob77dp 4 Spielkind Hyroen --------------------------=--------------------------

For this round:
Discards - 20 (14 from deck, 6 from vault)
Salvage - 6

[Basman-1453]

Please post in your section if you would like to reroll your salvage at least 24hrs before deckbuilding deadline.
This event card is used for individual salvages. Please post which decks you would like to reroll your salvage from.
Outcomes will be decided by chat dice, as rolled by Warmasters.
This is for the current R7 deckbuilding/salvage/discard phase

(Emphasis added)

Suppose Team Underworld, having won against Team Chroma and Team Silly in the previous round, wants to stake their salvage from Team Chroma (but not their salvage from Team Silly!) on the EC.
1) Will it be made public that Team Underworld is staking the salvage from Team Chroma rather than Team Silly?
2a) Will the dice roll be made public?
2b) If it won't, will Team Underworld be allowed to say anything to the public about their EC results before R7 ends? Before War ends?

[Vineroz]

23	Gen. Discord	Gen. Fippe94
26	ARTHANASIOS	chrispybacon84

lol WMs

[dragonsdemesne]

23	Gen. Discord	Gen. Fippe94
26	ARTHANASIOS	chrispybacon84

lol WMs

Just as a clarification (not sure if this is what Vineroz is pointing out) but Light is transmuting 4 salvage cards from r6 wins into 2 light cards, so that our vault is now 74 cards instead of 76 cards, because teams with 75+ cards must play 3 matches.  We told the WMs this ahead of time (partly to check if it was legal) and so that is why it might look funny, but the math works out.

[worldwideweb3]

Umm, matches are based on what you have currently not what you are going to have.

[Calindu]

23	Gen. Discord	Gen. Fippe94
26	ARTHANASIOS	chrispybacon84

lol WMs

Just as a clarification (not sure if this is what Vineroz is pointing out) but Light is transmuting 4 salvage cards from r6 wins into 2 light cards, so that our vault is now 74 cards instead of 76 cards, because teams with 75+ cards must play 3 matches.  We told the WMs this ahead of time (partly to check if it was legal) and so that is why it might look funny, but the math works out.

It doesn't look "funny", it looks cheap and bad. Not sure how this is allowed but I am against this decision if it's true.

[dragonsdemesne]

23	Gen. Discord	Gen. Fippe94
26	ARTHANASIOS	chrispybacon84

lol WMs

Just as a clarification (not sure if this is what Vineroz is pointing out) but Light is transmuting 4 salvage cards from r6 wins into 2 light cards, so that our vault is now 74 cards instead of 76 cards, because teams with 75+ cards must play 3 matches.  We told the WMs this ahead of time (partly to check if it was legal) and so that is why it might look funny, but the math works out.

It doesn't look "funny", it looks cheap and bad. Not sure how this is allowed but I am against this decision if it's true.

It's just as legitimate as a bullshit 20 card penalty :p  You can't have it both ways.

[Timdood3]

23	Gen. Discord	Gen. Fippe94
26	ARTHANASIOS	chrispybacon84

lol WMs

Just as a clarification (not sure if this is what Vineroz is pointing out) but Light is transmuting 4 salvage cards from r6 wins into 2 light cards, so that our vault is now 74 cards instead of 76 cards, because teams with 75+ cards must play 3 matches.  We told the WMs this ahead of time (partly to check if it was legal) and so that is why it might look funny, but the math works out.

It doesn't look "funny", it looks cheap and bad. Not sure how this is allowed but I am against this decision if it's true.

What do you mean by cheap and bad?
Looks like a fine strategic decision to lower the risk of being eliminated to me.
They checked ahead of time to make sure it was legal, and it happened, so I'm assuming that it was indeed legal.  And I don't even see why it wouldn't be.

[worldwideweb3]

23	Gen. Discord	Gen. Fippe94
26	ARTHANASIOS	chrispybacon84

lol WMs

Just as a clarification (not sure if this is what Vineroz is pointing out) but Light is transmuting 4 salvage cards from r6 wins into 2 light cards, so that our vault is now 74 cards instead of 76 cards, because teams with 75+ cards must play 3 matches.  We told the WMs this ahead of time (partly to check if it was legal) and so that is why it might look funny, but the math works out.

It doesn't look "funny", it looks cheap and bad. Not sure how this is allowed but I am against this decision if it's true.

What do you mean by cheap and bad?
Looks like a fine strategic decision to lower the risk of being eliminated to me.
They checked ahead of time to make sure it was legal, and it happened, so I'm assuming that it was indeed legal.  And I don't even see why it wouldn't be.

The transmutations should have happened in R6 deckbuilding phase. You cant just say "we  will do this afterwards so give us less players". As said, matchups are decided on vault at the end of R6.

[Fippe94]

Yeah, I figured the -2 mod had to be from salvage in their round 6 deckbuilding, since that is how it has worked before. Losing card in advance for the *next* deckbuilding phase, which happens after matchups is revealed, sounds like bs.

WMs can't just change when salvage happens mid-war. I mean I assumed that transmutation before deckbuilding phase was completely impossible, so doing it like this never even crossed my mind.

[worldwideweb3]

Also, WMs, it's not too late to correct this at all btw, if you decide to do so. As air will get a bye, just need to move one of their matches to light.

[Timdood3]

23	Gen. Discord	Gen. Fippe94
26	ARTHANASIOS	chrispybacon84

lol WMs

Just as a clarification (not sure if this is what Vineroz is pointing out) but Light is transmuting 4 salvage cards from r6 wins into 2 light cards, so that our vault is now 74 cards instead of 76 cards, because teams with 75+ cards must play 3 matches.  We told the WMs this ahead of time (partly to check if it was legal) and so that is why it might look funny, but the math works out.

It doesn't look "funny", it looks cheap and bad. Not sure how this is allowed but I am against this decision if it's true.

What do you mean by cheap and bad?
Looks like a fine strategic decision to lower the risk of being eliminated to me.
They checked ahead of time to make sure it was legal, and it happened, so I'm assuming that it was indeed legal.  And I don't even see why it wouldn't be.

The transmutations should have happened in R6 deckbuilding phase. You cant just say "we  will do this afterwards so give us less players". As said, matchups are decided on vault at the end of R6.

Ah, makes more sense now.  Ignore me.