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Blacksmith Sub Bidding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67704.msg1295934#msg1295934
« on: February 19, 2020, 01:11:19 am »
Alright, no rules on how this works really. I'm bidding 10 cards on Blacksmith. WMs can approve or disapprove. Others can bid more. I think increments of 1 card bids are fine. I really don't care how long after last bid the time period lasts until finalization. People tend to be busy during the week and might not see this. I'm posting here so all teams can see and talk to their general accordingly. I do not plan on rebidding after 10 cards, so don't worry about a bid war from me. Would be nice for Blacksmith to get on a team before this weekend so he can play games.


I also don't mind having him be a 5th member even on active teams, in case other teams want a chance to bid on him too. In that case teams would just choose one player to sub out every round. Could be unfun for those teams though and I'm not sure if others want this option.


Also if this bidding idea is un-liked by WMs or other generals it really doesn't matter to me, so I'm not going to really join further discussions. Not to insult Blacksmith, but I'm winning war with or without him so no difference to me if he gets on a team or not. If people want to come up with some other system for subbing in Blacksmith, that's fine, but I won't add any input beyond this. As a result, if a new system for drafting Blacksmith (or anyone else) is established, consider me uninterested if the relative cost for acquiring a new player is greater than 10 cards.
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Re: Blacksmith Sub Bidding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67704.msg1295935#msg1295935
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2020, 01:17:07 am »
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I also don't mind having him be a 5th member even on active teams, in case other teams want a chance to bid on him too. In that case teams would just choose one player to sub out every round. Could be unfun for those teams though and I'm not sure if others want this option.

I'm pro this. Personally I was never looking forward to the duel phase

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Re: Blacksmith Sub Bidding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67704.msg1295938#msg1295938
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2020, 03:09:43 am »
im am fine with 1card increments and am fine with this auction being official too
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Re: Blacksmith Sub Bidding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67704.msg1295939#msg1295939
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2020, 04:20:56 am »
im am fine with 1card increments and am fine with this auction being official too
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Re: Blacksmith Sub Bidding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67704.msg1295946#msg1295946
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2020, 04:38:59 pm »
Can Blacksmith and I just start Team Water mid-war, like Underworld back in the old days?
I'd be open for that. Would be so much fun, for everyone
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Re: Blacksmith Sub Bidding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67704.msg1295948#msg1295948
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2020, 05:25:27 pm »
Could be cool, or pick up life's vault.

Include discards from their 4 forfeited games
Allow 40 1 for 1 transmutes to make the vault yours
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Re: Blacksmith Sub Bidding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67704.msg1295949#msg1295949
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2020, 05:57:36 pm »
we cant have teams randomly getting added into war midway through. Blacks, and any other reserved subs should only be put into existing teams, through whatever process WMs deem fit.
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Re: Blacksmith Sub Bidding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67704.msg1295950#msg1295950
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2020, 07:58:03 pm »
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Re: Blacksmith Sub Bidding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67704.msg1295960#msg1295960
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2020, 12:58:52 am »
That wasn't intended or expected to be taken seriously.

I'm serious. Life can easily be handicapped fairly to re enter. Look at it as 2 subs to rebirth life.

Probs lst war, why not?
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Re: Blacksmith Sub Bidding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67704.msg1295962#msg1295962
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2020, 07:36:37 am »
For the record, the idea of adding a team this way (Odii, anti, yee) was already presented by WMs to the generals as early as January 6th.

It was not met with much enthusiasm, so I feel like continuing to suggest it is pointless.

Back on topic...
im am fine with 1card increments and am fine with this auction being official too

I do think non-replacing should be relatively more expensive. But, this specific case with 10 cards is acceptable I suppose.

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Re: Blacksmith Sub Bidding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67704.msg1295966#msg1295966
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2020, 05:41:20 pm »
For the record, the idea of adding a team this way (Odii, anti, yee) was already presented by WMs to the generals as early as January 6th.

It was not met with much enthusiasm, so I feel like continuing to suggest it is pointless.

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Re: Blacksmith Sub Bidding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67704.msg1296027#msg1296027
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2020, 01:04:56 am »
Alright ian. I am willing to pick up Blacksmith for your stupid 13 cards. Please add him to my team this week before next round starts. He can replace kaempfer13 or DANIEELA. Both are missing so doesn't really matter.


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Since no one else wants Blacksmith, team :fire is going to pick him up simply to flex on our opponents. We clearly do not need him after the last two rounds in which team :fire went 7-1 and dominated everyone. Our victory will look even more impressive after throwing away 13 vault cards that are actually quite needed to make a certain deck that I plan on trashing.

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Our team welcomes you greatly and you will be treated well. However, you must come to realize your position on our team. Your value is equivalent to a relic. You offer a nice boost to team spirit and will upgrade team morale (which is non-existent since we never communicate), but ultimately you offer nothing more than taking up space in a deck that could be filled with much better options.

That logic is the exact reason why our starting vault had 0 relics in it (which you will see is true when you gain access to our vault). I bamboozled all our opponents into thinking relics were good by using them extensively in Trials. Like I told others in chat, War is won psychologically, the actual cards in the deck only account for 10% of the victory. Everyone else started playing War when vault building began. I started prepping months before, sowing the seeds of destruction long before my opponents would realize that they were all too late to even come close to challenging the greatness of team :fire.

Additionally, if you, Blacksmith, do end up on our team, you must be warned. We do 0 testing. The only one on our team who tests is kaempfer13 and he is no longer with us. When vault building began, he would continuously question my deck choices and ask if I tested them. I lied to him and told him I tested them all but I never actually tested any of them. Testing is a sign that you don't have a complete understanding of the game. Testing means you cannot look at a deck and already know it's strengths and weaknesses. Testing is a sign of weakness. Team :fire does NOT test decks.

Second, do not expect to talk to Annele. She shows up to her game and she wins. That's all she does. That's all she needs to do. That's all she ever will do. That's why she's so great and that's why I made sure to outbid TorB for a player that's basically afk.

Third, I'm tired of having to leak my decks to my opponents through copious amounts of PMs. You will be taking over this role and strategically leaking our decks for the round to various opponents at various times. This is a very precise and very VERY IMPORTANT part of our war strategy. I will be guiding you through this process so that you don't mess it up.

Lastly, I need you to start figuring out how to make a viable light stall deck with the new market. I am currently transmuting the cards we need to make a good light stall but I hate stalls and I hate building stalls, so I refuse to waste my precious time optimizing a stupid 40+ card deck. However, we're going to need it for the showdown with :darkness in the final rounds of War. We don't need it to beat :darkness, but we do need it to troll TheonlyrealBeef because he thought he could beat me in trials by spamming light stall against me. So we will spit in his face and laugh at him by playing only light stalls against him in the final rounds of War.

That is all. Have a good day. I hope the WMs expedite this process.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2020, 02:08:37 am by shockcannon »
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