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Re: War #3 - Round 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25324.msg322888#msg322888
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2011, 08:27:12 pm »
Using some upgraded cards make war MUCH more interesting. I'd wish there were more oppurtunities (also for regular war members) to use them. It just opens up a whole new spectrum of tactics like arsenic hitting through shields, pend/pillar splits, adrenamercs and flying weapon decks  just to name a few.

I spoke a bit with QT about implementing more upgraded cards in future wars, I really like his thoughts about this subject.

To get back on topic: Grats with this Stroke of Luck team Gravity and Air, but this is going to be our round, trust me ;)
There is actually an event called Elite War that is currently being refined that will be very similar to War but with upped cards.  I'm hoping to have it ready for a launch date sometime in June so keep an eye out for it.
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Re: War #3 - Round 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25324.msg322893#msg322893
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2011, 08:30:03 pm »
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Re: War #3 - Round 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25324.msg322932#msg322932
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2011, 09:03:49 pm »
Yay, I get to face air again.
And against a player we've already played.

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Re: War #3 - Round 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25324.msg322951#msg322951
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2011, 09:17:38 pm »
Yay, I get to face air again.
And against a player we've already played.
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Re: War #3 - Round 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25324.msg323180#msg323180
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2011, 02:25:08 am »
This event card couldnt be worse. Well, I dont know if it was already stated that it would be used in round 4 (I searched the forums, couldnt find it), but if it wasnt, its a plain gift from organizers to some teams. Previous event cards werent like this, a team could have an advantage according to its skill to building mono decks, or winning at least a game in the match, etc. But this? A gift to some teams FROM START? Im not saying its the case, but how can people know that the number 7, chosed to divide vault number, or the use of this in this exact round is not a way to help a team that is supported by organizers? Stroke of Luck? Or Stroke of Help? Helping teams from start, nothing to do with any skills, seems unfair, its my opinion. Its even worse because its obvious that organizers have checked before which teams would benefit. It there were no teams to benefit, it wouldnt be used, right? But the curious is to think... Gravity and Air are not in good positions at the start of the round. If the card would benefit, lets say, Aether and Darkness, the teams in 1st and 2nd positions, would it still be used?

Of course I understand "luck" has nothing to do with skills, and the game itself is a card game, so, its luck based. Anyway, I think teams shouldnt simply get gifts. Simply unfair, and reduces the reliability of the tournament a lot. I hope this dont happen again, or otherwise its stated before the War begins.

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Re: War #3 - Round 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25324.msg323182#msg323182
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2011, 02:31:30 am »
As I understood it, the order of event cards was randomly made before the event actually started.

That already eliminates them from helping teams.
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Re: War #3 - Round 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25324.msg323194#msg323194
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2011, 02:47:06 am »
This is what I tried to find and couldnt. I had imagined that, because giving 16 upgraded cards to some and 0 to others seems too much... Can u post the link?

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Re: War #3 - Round 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25324.msg323199#msg323199
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2011, 02:50:30 am »
The bottom part of section 3.1 in War Rules(link is http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13006.0.html) says that there are a total of 24 event cards, arranged in a random order before the event starts.

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Re: War #3 - Round 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25324.msg323200#msg323200
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2011, 02:51:09 am »
This is what I tried to find and couldnt. I had imagined that, because giving 16 upgraded cards to some and 0 to others seems too much... Can u post the link?
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Re: War #3 - Round 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25324.msg323205#msg323205
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2011, 02:56:48 am »
Previous event cards werent like this, a team could have an advantage according to its skill to building mono decks,
Are you really going to make the argument that building a mono is anywhere remotely near even to all teams?

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Re: War #3 - Round 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25324.msg323226#msg323226
« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2011, 03:31:06 am »
Previous event cards werent like this, a team could have an advantage according to its skill to building mono decks,
Are you really going to make the argument that building a mono is anywhere remotely near even to all teams?
No, but it involves skill, and so it could be prized. Most teams even didnt use it, anyway, but all teams could, its not a gift.

Oh, wait, all that we have is the info that there are 24 cards and they are supposed to be arranged in random order? How random is it? Again, if this card was supposed to be used in a round that no teams would benefit, would it still be used? With a random order, that wouldnt be uncommon, mainly because later rounds have just a few teams. If the random order is not revealed, again, no way to know if organizers are trying to help a team. Im not saying they are, but for sure this makes the event less reliable. And, I would appreciate if things like this dont happen again.

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Re: War #3 - Round 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25324.msg323230#msg323230
« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2011, 03:41:07 am »
If no one had a vault divisible by 7, then no one would get the event bonus.
And the order of event cards might be revealed after the war is over.
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