Post by: Chapuz on May 26, 2013, 07:58:27 pm
Building Your First Deck
Hey there! If you are a new player in need of some deck building advice or a frustrated player looking for improvement, look no further. I will show you how to transform a starter deck into a solid Level 3 and PvP killer of every element so you can build a deck to take on the False Gods.| (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/Themes/default/images/smflogo.png) Choose your element:
| Your goal should be to make the most reliable deck for the least amount of electrum in the least amount of time. Mono decks (decks that contain cards of only 1 element) are the best for new players to get into the game, as they are the easiest to play with. As you play, you will get into many other strategies that involve cards of different elements. This tutorial will lead you to your first reliable Level 3 and PvP grinder of each element, so then you can try other strategies and go grinding in Arena, Half Bloods and False Gods. Between all the starter decks, the Darkness one is sold much higher than the others. That offers the possibility to make mono deck of every element faster and easier starting with Darkness than starting with each respective element. That's why we are going to start with the Darkness starter deck and make a deck of any element we want starting from that one. (http://elementscommunity.org/tools/deck/cache/z24sa4t3zB5uk5ulz35umz25un5uoz25up5uqz25usz361o61p61q61r61s8pt.jpg) |
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:aetherbig
This is one of the most efficient builds you can make in the Aether element for farming Half Bloods and PvP. Here's the strategy and the fastest way to build it.
Strategy
Play your creatures whenever you can, play your shields when things get scary. The shields will provide you up to 18 turns without being damaged!
How to build it
First of all, start selling the cards that don't belong to the desired deck, until you get this deck:
While getting your quest rewards and playing against the different AI Levels, you will gain enough :electrum to buy the remaining cards.
That's it! You now have a deck that is fun to use and can grind Half Bloods and PvP quite effectively. Your next step should be to gain electrum towards building a deck to beat the Arena Levels and False Gods. Have fun, and good luck!
Strategy
Play your creatures whenever you can, play your shields when things get scary. The shields will provide you up to 18 turns without being damaged!
How to build it
First of all, start selling the cards that don't belong to the desired deck, until you get this deck:
Sell the Black Dragon, Devourers, parasites, Dusk Mantle and Nightfall in order to buy 13 Aether pillars, 1 Dimensional Shield and 4 Immortals. Add those to your deck.
Sell your Spark, Lightning, Parallel Universe, Drain Lives, Steals, Dagger and 8 Obsidian pillars to buy 3 Dimensional Shields and 2 Phase Dragons.
Sell your Spark, Lightning, Parallel Universe, Drain Lives, Steals, Dagger and 8 Obsidian pillars to buy 3 Dimensional Shields and 2 Phase Dragons.
While getting your quest rewards and playing against the different AI Levels, you will gain enough :electrum to buy the remaining cards.
That's it! You now have a deck that is fun to use and can grind Half Bloods and PvP quite effectively. Your next step should be to gain electrum towards building a deck to beat the Arena Levels and False Gods. Have fun, and good luck!
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:airbig
This is one of the most efficient builds you can make in the Air element for farming Level 3 and PvP. Here's the strategy and the fastest way to build it.
Strategy
The strategy is simple: Play the dragons as soon as you can. If you think your opponent has Steals or Deflagrations, save the Unstable Gasses and play them all together in the end of the game to have a chance of letting him waste them in your pillars.
If your opponent has healing, play the UGs but ignite them all together in the end of the game for a final big hit.
How to build it
As soon as you start, start selling and buying cards until you get this deck:
While getting your quest rewards and playing against the different AI Levels, you will gain enough :electrum yo buy the remaining cards.
That's it! You now have a deck that is fun to use and can grind Level 3 and PvP quite effectively. Your next step should be to gain electrum towards building a deck to beat the Arena Levels and False Gods. Have fun, and good luck!
Strategy
The strategy is simple: Play the dragons as soon as you can. If you think your opponent has Steals or Deflagrations, save the Unstable Gasses and play them all together in the end of the game to have a chance of letting him waste them in your pillars.
If your opponent has healing, play the UGs but ignite them all together in the end of the game for a final big hit.
How to build it
As soon as you start, start selling and buying cards until you get this deck:
Sell your Black Dragon, Devourers, Parasites, Dusk Mantle and Nightfall, in order to buy 18 Air pillars and 5 Unstable Gas. Add those to your deck.
Sell all your Aether cards and all the remaining Darkness cards except 3 Obsidian Pillars (your deck should have 30 cards by now), and buy 1 Unstable Gas and 3 Azure Dragons.
Replace them for your last 3 Obsidian Pillars and Dagger, and you are done.
Sell all your Aether cards and all the remaining Darkness cards except 3 Obsidian Pillars (your deck should have 30 cards by now), and buy 1 Unstable Gas and 3 Azure Dragons.
Replace them for your last 3 Obsidian Pillars and Dagger, and you are done.
While getting your quest rewards and playing against the different AI Levels, you will gain enough :electrum yo buy the remaining cards.
That's it! You now have a deck that is fun to use and can grind Level 3 and PvP quite effectively. Your next step should be to gain electrum towards building a deck to beat the Arena Levels and False Gods. Have fun, and good luck!
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:darknessbig
This is one of the most efficient builds you can make in the Darkness element for farming Level 3 and PvP. Here's the fastest way to build it.
Strategy
Devourers are super effective (and annoying for your opponent) when they are played early, Drain Life works to kill dangerous creatures or just to hit your opponent while healing. The later you play them, the better! Use steals for good shields or another permanents useful for your opponent.
How to build it
Before you start, sell all the aether cards and Parasites to buy 2 Black Dragons and a Devourer. You shall end with this deck:
While playing AIs and getting your quest rewards, you will get the missing cards for the complete deck.
That's it! You now have a deck that is fun to use and can grind Level 3 and PvP quite effectively. Your next step should be to gain electrum towards building a deck to beat the Arena levels and False Gods. Have fun, and good luck!
Strategy
Devourers are super effective (and annoying for your opponent) when they are played early, Drain Life works to kill dangerous creatures or just to hit your opponent while healing. The later you play them, the better! Use steals for good shields or another permanents useful for your opponent.
How to build it
Before you start, sell all the aether cards and Parasites to buy 2 Black Dragons and a Devourer. You shall end with this deck:
While playing AIs and getting your quest rewards, you will get the missing cards for the complete deck.
That's it! You now have a deck that is fun to use and can grind Level 3 and PvP quite effectively. Your next step should be to gain electrum towards building a deck to beat the Arena levels and False Gods. Have fun, and good luck!
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:deathbig
This is one of the most efficient builds you can make in the Death element for farming Level 3 and PvP. Here's the fastest way to build it.
Strategy
This deck is one of the most effective unupped rushes. The strategy is simple: Play whatever you can as soon as possible. If you can wait for 1 turn to play a Dragon instead of playing a mummy a turn earlier, wait that turn!
How to build it
Before you start, start buying and selling cards. You will end with the whole deck before playing a single game!
That's it! You now have a deck that is fun to use and can grind Level 3 and PvP quite effectively. Your next step should be to gain electrum towards building a deck to beat the Arena levels and False Gods. Have fun, and good luck!
Strategy
This deck is one of the most effective unupped rushes. The strategy is simple: Play whatever you can as soon as possible. If you can wait for 1 turn to play a Dragon instead of playing a mummy a turn earlier, wait that turn!
How to build it
Before you start, start buying and selling cards. You will end with the whole deck before playing a single game!
Sell the Black Dragon, Devourers, parasites, Dusk Mantle and Nightfall in order to buy 14 Death pillars, 6 Poisons and 6 Mummies. Put them in your deck.
Sell all your remaining Darkness and Aether cards and buy 4 Bone Dragons. Replace them for your Quantum Pillars and Dagger.
Sell all your remaining Darkness and Aether cards and buy 4 Bone Dragons. Replace them for your Quantum Pillars and Dagger.
That's it! You now have a deck that is fun to use and can grind Level 3 and PvP quite effectively. Your next step should be to gain electrum towards building a deck to beat the Arena levels and False Gods. Have fun, and good luck!
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:earthbig
This is one of the most efficient builds you can make in the Earth element for farming Level 3 and PvP. Here's the fastest way to build it.
Strategy
Play your creatures whenever you can. Use Borrow wisely when you think your opponent can kill your Shriekers!
How to build it
Before you start, start selling and buying cards until you get this deck:
You will be able to replace the Dagger for a Short Sword after beating Level 0.
That's it! You now have a deck that is fun to use and can grind Level 3 and PvP quite effectively. Your next step should be to gain electrum towards building a deck to beat the Arena levels and False Gods. Have fun, and good luck!
Strategy
Play your creatures whenever you can. Use Borrow wisely when you think your opponent can kill your Shriekers!
How to build it
Before you start, start selling and buying cards until you get this deck:
Sell the Black Dragon, Devourers, parasites, Dusk Mantle and Nightfall in order to buy 17 Earth Pillars and 5 Graboids. Add them to your deck.
Sell all your Aether cards and your remaining Darkness cards except 4 Obsidian Pillars, and buy 1 Graboid and 6 Shriekers. Add them to your deck and take out your remaining Obsidian and Quantum pillars.
Sell all your Aether cards and your remaining Darkness cards except 4 Obsidian Pillars, and buy 1 Graboid and 6 Shriekers. Add them to your deck and take out your remaining Obsidian and Quantum pillars.
You will be able to replace the Dagger for a Short Sword after beating Level 0.
That's it! You now have a deck that is fun to use and can grind Level 3 and PvP quite effectively. Your next step should be to gain electrum towards building a deck to beat the Arena levels and False Gods. Have fun, and good luck!
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:entropybig
This is one of the most efficient builds you can make in the Entropy element for farming Level 3 and PvP. Here's the fastest way to build it.
Strategy
Play your creatures as soon as you can. Use the Maxwell Demons to eat the ones you can!
How to build it
Before you start, sell and buy cards until you reach this deck:
While playing against the different AIs and getting your quest rewards, you will get the 2 dragons you need to finish the deck.
That's it! You now have a deck that is fun to use and can grind Level 3 and PvP quite effectively. Your next step should be to gain electrum towards building a deck to beat the Arena levels and False Gods. Have fun, and good luck!
Strategy
Play your creatures as soon as you can. Use the Maxwell Demons to eat the ones you can!
How to build it
Before you start, sell and buy cards until you reach this deck:
Sell the Black Dragon, Devourers, parasites, Dusk Mantle and Nightfall in order to buy 17 Amathist pillars, 6 Abominations and 2 Maxwell's Demons. Add them to your deck.
Sell all your Aether cards and your remaining darkness cards except for 1 Obsidian pillar and buy 4 Purple Dragons. Replace them for your Obsidian and Quantum pillars.
Sell all your Aether cards and your remaining darkness cards except for 1 Obsidian pillar and buy 4 Purple Dragons. Replace them for your Obsidian and Quantum pillars.
While playing against the different AIs and getting your quest rewards, you will get the 2 dragons you need to finish the deck.
That's it! You now have a deck that is fun to use and can grind Level 3 and PvP quite effectively. Your next step should be to gain electrum towards building a deck to beat the Arena levels and False Gods. Have fun, and good luck!
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:firebig
This is one of the most efficient builds you can make in the Fire element for farming Level 3 and PvP. Here's the fastest way to build it.
Strategy
This deck is very effective. It can work as a pure Rush if you use the Fire Bolts in your opponent (the later the better) or as a control deck if you decide to use the bolts in your opponent's creatures.
How to build it
Before you start, start selling and buying cards until you reach this deck:
While playing AIs and getting your quest rewards, you will get the missing cards for the complete deck.
That's it! You now have a deck that is fun to use and can grind Level 3 and PvP quite effectively. Your next step should be to gain electrum towards building a deck to beat the Arena levels and False Gods. Have fun, and good luck!
Strategy
This deck is very effective. It can work as a pure Rush if you use the Fire Bolts in your opponent (the later the better) or as a control deck if you decide to use the bolts in your opponent's creatures.
How to build it
Before you start, start selling and buying cards until you reach this deck:
Sell the Black Dragon, Devourers, parasites, Dusk Mantle and Nightfall in order to buy 16 Burning pillars, 6 Fire Bolts, 2 Deflagrations and a Phoenix. Add them to your deck.
Sell all your aether cards and your remaining Darkness cards except for 1 Obsidian pillar, and buy 4 Phoenixes. Replace them for your Obsidian Pillar and 3 Quantum Pillars.
Sell all your aether cards and your remaining Darkness cards except for 1 Obsidian pillar, and buy 4 Phoenixes. Replace them for your Obsidian Pillar and 3 Quantum Pillars.
While playing AIs and getting your quest rewards, you will get the missing cards for the complete deck.
That's it! You now have a deck that is fun to use and can grind Level 3 and PvP quite effectively. Your next step should be to gain electrum towards building a deck to beat the Arena levels and False Gods. Have fun, and good luck!
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:gravitybig
This is one of the most efficient builds you can make in the Gravity element for farming Level 3 and PvP. Here's the fastest way to build it.
Strategy
Use Acceleration in your Armagios for attack power, you can use some of them for defense too! The Otys eat small creatures, so you can also accelerate low HP creatures from your opponent to eat them later!
How to build it
Before anything else, start selling and buying cards from your starter deck until you get the full deck.
That's it! You now have a deck that is fun to use and can grind Level 3 and PvP quite effectively. Your next step should be to gain electrum towards building a deck to beat the Arena levels and False Gods. Have fun, and good luck!
Strategy
Use Acceleration in your Armagios for attack power, you can use some of them for defense too! The Otys eat small creatures, so you can also accelerate low HP creatures from your opponent to eat them later!
How to build it
Before anything else, start selling and buying cards from your starter deck until you get the full deck.
Sell the Black Dragon, Devourers, parasites, Dusk Mantle and Nightfall in order to buy 13 Gravity Pillars, 2 Gravity Pulls, 2 Otyugh and 2 Armagios. Add them to your deck.
Sell all your Aether cards and your remaining Darkness cards except for 6 obsidian pillars, and buy 3 Armagios, 5 Accelerations and 2 Momentums. Replace them for your Obsidian pillars and Other cards and you are done.
Sell all your Aether cards and your remaining Darkness cards except for 6 obsidian pillars, and buy 3 Armagios, 5 Accelerations and 2 Momentums. Replace them for your Obsidian pillars and Other cards and you are done.
That's it! You now have a deck that is fun to use and can grind Level 3 and PvP quite effectively. Your next step should be to gain electrum towards building a deck to beat the Arena levels and False Gods. Have fun, and good luck!
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:lifebig
This is one of the most efficient builds you can make in the Life element for farming Level 3 and PvP. Here's the fastest way to build it.
Strategy
Cast Adrenaline in your creatures to make them attack 4 times instead of 1! You can choose to replace the Cockatrices for Scorpions if you like them more.
How to build it
Start selling and buying cards from your starter deck until you have the full deck. No more science, you will even have more than 100 electrum left!
That's it! You now have a deck that is fun to use and can grind Level 3 and PvP quite effectively. Your next step should be to gain electrum towards building a deck to beat the Arena levels and False Gods. Have fun, and good luck!
Strategy
Cast Adrenaline in your creatures to make them attack 4 times instead of 1! You can choose to replace the Cockatrices for Scorpions if you like them more.
How to build it
Start selling and buying cards from your starter deck until you have the full deck. No more science, you will even have more than 100 electrum left!
Sell the Black Dragon, Devourers, parasites, Dusk Mantle and Nightfall in order to buy 12 Emerald pillars, 6 Horned Frogs and 6 Cockatrices. Add them to your deck.
Take out and sell all your aether cards and your remaining Darkness cards except for 2 Obsidian pillars. Buy 6 Adrenalines and replace them for your Obsidian pillars, Quantum pillars and Dagger. Yor are done!
Take out and sell all your aether cards and your remaining Darkness cards except for 2 Obsidian pillars. Buy 6 Adrenalines and replace them for your Obsidian pillars, Quantum pillars and Dagger. Yor are done!
That's it! You now have a deck that is fun to use and can grind Level 3 and PvP quite effectively. Your next step should be to gain electrum towards building a deck to beat the Arena levels and False Gods. Have fun, and good luck!
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:lightbig
This is one of the most efficient builds you can make in the Light element for farming Level 3 and PvP. Here's the fastest way to build it.
Strategy
Play your creatures as soon as you can and cast the Blessings in your Pegasus to double their effect when using Dive.
How to build it
Before doing anything, start selling and buying cards until you get this deck:
While getting your quest rewards you will gain enough :electrum to buy the 2 dragons missing.
That's it! You now have a deck that is fun to use and can grind Level 3 and PvP quite effectively. Your next step should be to gain electrum towards building a deck to beat the Arena levels and False Gods. Have fun, and good luck!
Strategy
Play your creatures as soon as you can and cast the Blessings in your Pegasus to double their effect when using Dive.
How to build it
Before doing anything, start selling and buying cards until you get this deck:
Sell the Black Dragon, Devourers, parasites, Dusk Mantle and Nightfall in order to buy 18 Light pillars and 5 Blessings. Add them to your deck.
Remove and sell all your Aether cards and your remaining Darkness cards excepr for 3 Obsidian Pillars, and buy 1 Golden Dragon and 4 Pegasus.
Add them to your deck and remove and sell your Dagger, 1 Quantum Pillar and your remaining Darkness cards, and buy 2 Pegasus. You are done now.
Remove and sell all your Aether cards and your remaining Darkness cards excepr for 3 Obsidian Pillars, and buy 1 Golden Dragon and 4 Pegasus.
Add them to your deck and remove and sell your Dagger, 1 Quantum Pillar and your remaining Darkness cards, and buy 2 Pegasus. You are done now.
While getting your quest rewards you will gain enough :electrum to buy the 2 dragons missing.
That's it! You now have a deck that is fun to use and can grind Level 3 and PvP quite effectively. Your next step should be to gain electrum towards building a deck to beat the Arena levels and False Gods. Have fun, and good luck!
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:timebig
This is one of the most efficient builds you can make in the Time element for farming Level 3 and PvP. Here's the fastest way to build it.
Strategy
Play your creatures as soon as you can, play the Precognitions if you don't have more creatures in hand.
How to build it
Before you start, start selling and buying cards until you get this deck:
While getting your quest rewards, you will earn enough :electrum to buy the few missing cards.
That's it! You now have a deck that is fun to use and can grind Level 3 and PvP quite effectively. Your next step should be to gain electrum towards building a deck to beat the Arena levels and False Gods. Have fun, and good luck!
Strategy
Play your creatures as soon as you can, play the Precognitions if you don't have more creatures in hand.
How to build it
Before you start, start selling and buying cards until you get this deck:
Sell the Black Dragon, Devourers, parasites, Dusk Mantle and Nightfall in order to buy 17 Time Factories, 3 Precognitions and 4 Ghost of the Past. Add them to your deck.
Remove and sell your Aether cards and all the remaining Darkness cards except 2 Ghost of the past and 2 Devonian Dragons. Add them to your deck.
Sell your Obsinidan pillars, Dagger and 1 Quantum Pillar and buy 1 more Devonian Dragon.
Remove and sell your Aether cards and all the remaining Darkness cards except 2 Ghost of the past and 2 Devonian Dragons. Add them to your deck.
Sell your Obsinidan pillars, Dagger and 1 Quantum Pillar and buy 1 more Devonian Dragon.
While getting your quest rewards, you will earn enough :electrum to buy the few missing cards.
That's it! You now have a deck that is fun to use and can grind Level 3 and PvP quite effectively. Your next step should be to gain electrum towards building a deck to beat the Arena levels and False Gods. Have fun, and good luck!
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:waterbig
This is one of the most efficient builds you can make in the Water element for farming Level 3 and PvP. Here's the fastest way to build it.
Strategy
Use a Nymph Tears on your Pillars and start reproducing them like rabbits! This is one of the fastest and most reliable unupped rushes. Replace 5-6 pillars for Freezes or Dry Spells if you feel you like them.
How to build it
This deck is so cheap that it doesn't need an explanation. Many pillars and 6 average priced cards.
That's it! You now have a deck that is fun to use and can grind Level 3 and PvP quite effectively. Your next step should be to gain electrum towards building a deck to beat the Arena levels and False Gods. Have fun, and good luck!
Strategy
Use a Nymph Tears on your Pillars and start reproducing them like rabbits! This is one of the fastest and most reliable unupped rushes. Replace 5-6 pillars for Freezes or Dry Spells if you feel you like them.
How to build it
This deck is so cheap that it doesn't need an explanation. Many pillars and 6 average priced cards.
That's it! You now have a deck that is fun to use and can grind Level 3 and PvP quite effectively. Your next step should be to gain electrum towards building a deck to beat the Arena levels and False Gods. Have fun, and good luck!
Post by: BeefSupreme on May 27, 2013, 11:02:11 am
Post by: TribalTrouble on May 27, 2013, 12:01:03 pm
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This is one of the most efficient builds you can make in the Death element for farming Level 3 and PvP. Here's the fastest way to build it.
Strategy
This deck is one of the most effective unupped rushes. The strategy is simple: Play whatever you can as soon as possible. If you can wait for 1 turn to play a Dragon instead of playing a mummy a turn earlier, wait that that turn!
might wanna fix that...
Post by: Absol on May 28, 2013, 02:18:06 am
Post by: TribalTrouble on May 28, 2013, 02:28:58 am
Finally, a needed recent tutorial. Though, i wonder if there's no other guide deserving a place instead of a remake.Like yours? I think for yours to be added it would now have to link this. I've been linking to your tutorial since I read it. :)
Post by: Chapuz on May 28, 2013, 02:39:49 am
Finally, a needed recent tutorial. Though, i wonder if there's no other guide deserving a place instead of a remake.I heared the council has just started working on remaking the tutorials section. Let's see what they come with in a near future.
Post by: kaempfer13 on May 29, 2013, 01:09:05 pm
Price:776 :electrum
Strategy: Get your graboids out as fast as possible and evolve them as soon as possible. Once you have evolved 1 graboid nightmare the resulting Shrieker; your opponent has now a lot of high cost creatures on his hand he definitly wont be able to play, doesnt draw a card for one turn + you drain his life. Every creature the opponnent managed to get out can be targeted with reverse time.
Post by: timetock on May 29, 2013, 01:17:33 pm
I just realized the synergy between Graboids/Shrieker and Nightmare and noticed that this deck is really cheap, so I thought it could be a good starter deck:
Price:776 :electrum
Strategy: Get your graboids out as fast as possible and evolve them as soon as possible. Once you have evolved 1 graboid nightmare the resulting Shrieker; your opponent has now a lot of high cost creatures on his hand he definitly wont be able to play, doesnt draw a card for one turn + you drain his life. Every creature the opponnent managed to get out can be targeted with reverse time.
why would you even put :darkness in... there are only uses for nightmare and you would be better off using other cards from :time :earth and removing :darkness altogether. I would suggest removing the 10 darkness cards and replacing them with 5 time pends and possibly some wardens or plate armor, depending on if you want to further delay your opponent from damaging you or protecting your graboids so they don't die from CC
Post by: Gandora on May 29, 2013, 01:23:22 pm
why would you even put :darkness in... there are only uses for nightmare and you would be better off using other cards from :time :earth and removing :darkness altogether. I would suggest removing the 10 darkness cards and replacing them with 5 time pends and possibly some wardens or plate armor, depending on if you want to further delay your opponent from damaging you or protecting your graboids so they don't die from CC
I haven't tried it but it looks like a good deck.
Shriekers are vulnerable to CC, so hindering your opponent to draw cards is a nice protection without having to burrow your shriekers. Additionally, it prevents your opponent from drawing shields and the reverse time get rid of otyughs or slows down rush decks (especially cremations) very efficiently.
Post by: kaempfer13 on May 29, 2013, 01:28:40 pm
The nightmares are the 2nd most important part of this deck; your opponent is usually forced to stick with his first ~10 cards. Your suggestions allow only either of the following things: Stop the creatures the opponent has played from attacking or protect your creatures from cc spells, while this deck does both by simple not allowing to draw them.I just realized the synergy between Graboids/Shrieker and Nightmare and noticed that this deck is really cheap, so I thought it could be a good starter deck:
Price:776 :electrum
Strategy: Get your graboids out as fast as possible and evolve them as soon as possible. Once you have evolved 1 graboid nightmare the resulting Shrieker; your opponent has now a lot of high cost creatures on his hand he definitly wont be able to play, doesnt draw a card for one turn + you drain his life. Every creature the opponnent managed to get out can be targeted with reverse time.
why would you even put :darkness in... there are only uses for nightmare and you would be better off using other cards from :time :earth and removing :darkness altogether. I would suggest removing the 10 darkness cards and replacing them with 5 time pends and possibly some wardens or plate armor, depending on if you want to further delay your opponent from damaging you or protecting your graboids so they don't die from CC
Post by: BeefSupreme on May 30, 2013, 01:59:28 am
Have you heard of the pretty little deck Nightmares of the Past (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22026.0.html)? It uses the synergy of Nightmare/Ghost of the Past and it works much more effectively than Shrieker/Nightmare because of the Ghost of the Past's ability.The nightmares are the 2nd most important part of this deck; your opponent is usually forced to stick with his first ~10 cards. Your suggestions allow only either of the following things: Stop the creatures the opponent has played from attacking or protect your creatures from cc spells, while this deck does both by simple not allowing to draw them.I just realized the synergy between Graboids/Shrieker and Nightmare and noticed that this deck is really cheap, so I thought it could be a good starter deck:
Price:776 :electrum
Strategy: Get your graboids out as fast as possible and evolve them as soon as possible. Once you have evolved 1 graboid nightmare the resulting Shrieker; your opponent has now a lot of high cost creatures on his hand he definitly wont be able to play, doesnt draw a card for one turn + you drain his life. Every creature the opponnent managed to get out can be targeted with reverse time.
why would you even put :darkness in... there are only uses for nightmare and you would be better off using other cards from :time :earth and removing :darkness altogether. I would suggest removing the 10 darkness cards and replacing them with 5 time pends and possibly some wardens or plate armor, depending on if you want to further delay your opponent from damaging you or protecting your graboids so they don't die from CC
Post by: Dm on May 30, 2013, 02:30:51 am
Post by: BeefSupreme on May 30, 2013, 02:44:21 am
Your "How to build it" . . . isn't any good.Let's see you build a better one rather than shooting down someone else's ._.
Post by: Chapuz on May 30, 2013, 02:52:17 am
Dm is actually right. I didn't do it because there isn't a more direct way to explain it, "look at the cards you don't need and sell them. The order isn't important."Your "How to build it" . . . isn't any good.Let's see you build a better one rather than shooting down someone else's ._.
I could clarify that buying the pillars first can do it faster, that would earn the players like... 30 seconds.
Post by: BeefSupreme on May 30, 2013, 03:05:52 am
Maybe just adding "make sure to see how much cards sell for" would help point noobies in the right direction.Dm is actually right. I didn't do it because there isn't a more direct way to explain it, "look at the cards you don't need and sell them. The order isn't important."Your "How to build it" . . . isn't any good.Let's see you build a better one rather than shooting down someone else's ._.
I could clarify that buying the pillars first can do it faster, that would earn the players like... 30 seconds.
Post by: Dm on May 30, 2013, 10:31:00 am
Your "How to build it" . . . isn't any good.Let's see you build a better one rather than shooting down someone else's ._.
I'm not the one rebuilding any tutorial. I'm sorry if that was rather rude, but that was what I felt after opening a "How to build" and get a "Sell and buy cards until you reach this deck". He doesn't need a spoiler in every part to tell us the obvious. It's like if I make a tutorial of a game and instead of giving you detailed information about how to pass each level I just say "Complete the level and you will then see a cutscene. Complete the next level, for another cutscene."
PS, it can save you more than simple 30 seconds. Selling a card wrong means that your scheme is ruined and you have to go get more money to get, say, a dragon needed to complete the deck. That means around 5 AI3 matches with a incomplete deck that is sub-optimal. The order, unlike what you said, IS important. ;3
Edit : Let's develop a bit on sub-optimal before someone says that "A last dragon needed" wouldn't be sub-optimal. What I meant isn't the last dragon, you may be required to farm for any card halfway if you screw up selling. Mainly, this is because of this claim :
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Between all the starter decks, the Darkness one is sold much higher than the others. That offers the possibility to make mono deck of every element faster and easier starting with Darkness than starting with each respective element.
That's why we are going to start with the Darkness starter deck and make a deck of any element we want starting from that one.
Which is, kind of false. If you're giving us a starter deck of darkness and you give us the option to build to any element, that just won't happen. A Life deck can easily be made by selling the Darkness cards -- after all Life is cheap. But let's take Aether, for example, where everything is much more expensive? In that scenario, it's easier to start out with the Starter Aether Deck and sell cards in the optimal way to get the Aether deck (which is walking in a tight rope in terms of balance, simply due to quanta output.), not wasting your time with the usual ridiculously slow matches that the Aether deck will force you to do.
Why start out with the starter aether deck? Because you'll get some of the cards you need already in deck. It's faster. And this also holds true to most elements that have a higher cost in cards. (Example : Air. You don't honestly expect people to sell the Darkness cards and buy the Air cards in such a organized way that they can get it before a single match. That is almost impossible. You will only get the Air deck after completing at least the first Four, Five quests. Plus, when completing the quests, your deck is sub-optimal -- since the newbie was told to start with darkness and "Sell and buy cards", he'll have a weird mix of a weak darkness deck with useless Air creatures/useless Air Pillars.)
I'm not saying your tutorial is bad.
I'm saying it's incomplete, which I find perfectly fine to say when all I see are decks and "Sell and buy cards until you get this deck". It just doesn't hold true to our goals.
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Your goal should be to make the most reliable deck for the least amount of electrum in the least amount of time.
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Before you start, start buying and selling cards. You will end with the whole deck before playing a single game!This, for example, will not happen unless the player is told what cards to sell. Otherwise we'll stop just a bit before the deck, with a weird mix, and have to go farm. This isn't the "least amount of electrum in the least amount of time".
I write this with the best interests of this tutorial in mind and do not wish to start any grudge between any of the players in this argument, and I deeply apologize if anything written in this or any post has sounded rude or seemed like it was attacking you, reader, in any way.
Post by: Chapuz on May 30, 2013, 12:10:00 pm
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Which is, kind of false. If you're giving us a starter deck of darkness and you give us the option to build to any element, that just won't happen. A Life deck can easily be made by selling the Darkness cards -- after all Life is cheap. But let's take Aether, for example, where everything is much more expensive? In that scenario, it's easier to start out with the Starter Aether Deck and sell cards in the optimal way to get the Aether deck (which is walking in a tight rope in terms of balance, simply due to quanta output.), not wasting your time with the usual ridiculously slow matches that the Aether deck will force you to do.Not true, starting with Darkness lets you have more dragons and immortals than starting with Aether. Try it and see it for yourself.
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Example : Air. You don't honestly expect people to sell the Darkness cards and buy the Air cards in such a organized way that they can get it before a single match. That is almost impossible. You will only get the Air deck after completing at least the first Four, Five quests. Plus, when completing the quests, your deck is sub-optimal -- since the newbie was told to start with darkness and "Sell and buy cards", he'll have a weird mix of a weak darkness deck with useless Air creatures/useless Air Pillars.Also false, 3 dragons and 6 UGs are more than enough for AIs 0-2 working flowly. Quests give you enough electrum to get 4-5 dragons and 6 UGs before playing AI3 for the first time.
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The order is not relevant, as the total amount of electrum gained and bought is the same.QuoteBefore you start, start buying and selling cards. You will end with the whole deck before playing a single game!This, for example, will not happen unless the player is told what cards to sell. Otherwise we'll stop just a bit before the deck, with a weird mix, and have to go farm. This isn't the "least amount of electrum in the least amount of time".
I will, although, make a "buy and sell" optimal order for each deck so people do it in the least amount of time.
I suggest you try starting with each element and getting a better starter deck than starting with Darkness, you will see you can't.
I tried it for every element and ended with THIS (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,49468.0.html) conclusion:
The following decks are the closest to the neat ones that can be made just selling cards from the starter decks, without playing a single game, both for :darkness and the respective elements
:aetherneed 3 more dragons, 2 shields and 2 immortals, can't buy them selling the cards I have left.Only 2 dragons and 2 shields missing
:air9 :electrum left61 :electrum left, had enough to sell replace and stuff for dragons
:deathAlmost, 1 dragon missingPerfect and 47 :electrum left
:earth3 Shriekers missingStandard Shrieker Rush
:entropy4 dragons missing.2 dragons missing
:fireAttempt of "Stall Faster" with 6 phoenixes to compensate the Fahrens. 3 Phoenixes missing, even selling the Fire Shield (can only have 2 phoenixes keeping the shield)only 1 phoenix missing, and had enough to buy a Fire shield
:gravityTrying to make This deck (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25433.0.html), 3 dragons missing
:lifeAlmost, 3 more creatures for the classic life rush with 12 creaturesNeat, with 135 :electrum left
:lightThe closest it can get to This deck (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12931.0.html). 2 dragons and 3 blessings missing.2 Dragons missing. Similar to the one starting with light, but it has more after all.
:time
Its price is 80 :electrum under :darkness, that difference compensates the cards Time's deck already has for a mono rush. Both can make practically the same mono Time rush and a neat ghostmare.
:water
Its price of a NT rush is so low that any starter deck can build it.
Post by: Dm on May 30, 2013, 12:43:54 pm
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Not true, starting with Darkness lets you have more dragons and immortals than starting with Aether. Try it and see it for yourself.
Will test right now.
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Also false, 3 dragons and 6 UGs are more than enough for AIs 0-2 working flowly. Quests give you enough electrum to get 4-5 dragons and 6 UGs before playing AI3 for the first time.
Please tell me where are you gathering your Air Pillars from. You'd have to sell a lot of darkness cards and get a lot of money to get 6 UG's and 3 Air Dragons, and then have the Air Pillars to power it. Assuming you are starting with darkness, I'm -very very- curious as to how you would get 3 Dragons, 6 UG's, and Air Pillars to power it before a single fight.
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The order is not relevant, as the total amount of electrum gained and bought is the same.
I disagree. Assume you have a 31 card deck and you take out a Darkness Pillar and sell it, and then buy, say, an Air Dragon and place it in the deck. It's a big loss in your electrum. I'm pretty sure there is a case where the money you get, if you do not do the best selling order, will make it an impossibility to lower the amount of cards in your deck (Since it will be 30) and buy a new card to fit it in (Say, you take out another darkness pillar -- you obviously will NOT have enough for a new air dragon and you will be stuck with a 30 card deck that is incomplete.
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I will, although, make a "buy and sell" optimal order for each deck so people do it in the least amount of time.
I thank you.
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I suggest you try starting with each element and getting a better starter deck than starting with Darkness, you will see you can't.
I tried it for every element and ended with THIS conclusion:
I shall.
PS : All confusion about impossibilities came from the lack of selling order that you placed in your Spoilers. I hope this shows you the problems of "Sell and buy until you get this deck".
Post by: Chapuz on May 30, 2013, 12:47:29 pm
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Please tell me where are you gathering your Air Pillars from. You'd have to sell a lot of darkness cards and get a lot of money to get 6 UG's and 3 Air Dragons, and then have the Air Pillars to power it. Assuming you are starting with darkness, I'm -very very- curious as to how you would get 3 Dragons, 6 UG's, and Air Pillars to power it before a single fight.
Sell your Black Dragon, Devourers, Parasites, Dusk Mantle and Nightfall, in order to buy 18 Air pillars and 5 Unstable Gas. Add those to your deck.
Sell all your Aether cards and all the remaining Darkness cards except 3 Obsidian Pillars (your deck should have 30 cards by now), and buy 1 Unstable Gas and 3 Azure Dragons.
Replace them for your last 3 Obsidian Pillars and Dagger, and you are done.
I added a spoiler in the end of my post from above, take it a look.
Post by: Dm on May 30, 2013, 12:50:21 pm
Sell your Black Dragon, Devourers, Parasites, Dusk Mantle and Nightfall, in order to buy 18 Air pillars and 5 Unstable Gas. Add those to your deck.
Sell all your Aether cards and all the remaining Darkness cards except 3 Obsidian Pillars (your deck should have 30 cards by now), and buy 1 Unstable Gas and 3 Azure Dragons.
Replace them for your last 3 Obsidian Pillars and Dagger, and you are done.
I added a spoiler in the end of my post from above, take it a look.
I asked how, not if it was possible. Either way you told me how, so I thank you.
PS: You could have added that explanation to your original spoiler. (I hope you have by now, since you already told me how you did it.)
Post by: Chapuz on May 30, 2013, 12:53:44 pm
Sell your Black Dragon, Devourers, Parasites, Dusk Mantle and Nightfall, in order to buy 18 Air pillars and 5 Unstable Gas. Add those to your deck.
Sell all your Aether cards and all the remaining Darkness cards except 3 Obsidian Pillars (your deck should have 30 cards by now), and buy 1 Unstable Gas and 3 Azure Dragons.
Replace them for your last 3 Obsidian Pillars and Dagger, and you are done.
I added a spoiler in the end of my post from above, take it a look.
I asked how, not if it was possible. Either way you told me how, so I thank you.
PS: You could have added that explanation to your original spoiler. (I hope you have by now, since you already told me how you did it.)
Done
Post by: omegareaper7 on June 24, 2013, 04:20:05 pm
Post by: Chapuz on June 24, 2013, 07:36:55 pm
Hate to nitpick, but in the life section, it says to sell dark cards when the life starter has fire.Read the first table, there it is said that in every case the best starter deck is Darkness for every element.
Post by: freeyourmind on July 03, 2013, 08:25:00 pm
Post by: KSmash on July 18, 2013, 07:55:48 pm
Today: Bronze. Tomorrow: Plat. This weekend: The World! :P
Post by: Generation_G34 on August 09, 2013, 01:38:48 pm
Post by: CrockettRocket on August 20, 2013, 07:05:21 pm
Post by: Chapuz on August 20, 2013, 07:33:37 pm
Where is the Platinum slaying part of this? I see deck build from noob to killing Ai3's but nothing more.This are simple mono decks to start with and start making some :electrum
You can find grinders for every level recommended by the community Here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/board,505.0.html)
Post by: Scars on November 20, 2013, 03:26:23 am
Note that is it still being updated and more decks will be added later on. This is just some of the decks that will work.
Post by: eaglgenes101 on November 20, 2013, 06:44:56 am
Post by: Chapuz on November 20, 2013, 09:49:32 am
There are probably more efficient builds of Aether. Psiontal anyone?Against AI3? Idk the stats
Post by: imperator83 on July 06, 2014, 04:52:30 pm
Post by: Chapuz on July 06, 2014, 05:15:28 pm
those decks are a bit useless against other player with shards or upped cards..This are basic starter decks, no more. You will have to grind a lot to make a neat deck, and to get rares and upgrades.
Post by: nlour on July 15, 2014, 12:58:31 pm
Post by: lycanfr3ak on August 23, 2014, 05:29:46 pm
Thank you.