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Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg470077#msg470077
« on: March 12, 2012, 02:43:36 PM »
This deck is purely based off omegareaper7's Poison Dials.

Spoiler for The Origin:
The day before trials signups, I had gotten back into platinum farming for some electrum to finish upping the earth element and asked around for a different deck. Omega had shared a deck code with me with i quickly misplaced. lol But using what he had told me about SoSac and SoD i threw this together. Probably extremely extremely close to what he gave me give or take a few shards and arsenic. I figured he had wanted to keep it secret so I didn't post anything. Later when I saw that Poison Dials[Upped][Death][Time][Plat][FG] was posted, I figured i should post my version under his thread since it wasn't really a secret anymore. And to be honest I am only making this topic to make it easier to express how good this version is for FG's and Platinum by showing stats.

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Upgrade Order:
Sundials --> SoSac --> Poisons --> Bone Pillars --> Arsenic --> SoD

Spoiler for Story #2:
The first time I tried this I proceeded to go on a 15 game win streak, and over the course of 3 weeks playing <1 hour a day i went up 80k score. Pretty ridiculous. When Xeno's Game Simulator came out i decided to run it against FG's and was kinda shocked about the consistant 78-82% winrate through about 2000 games (200 games at a time)And with the AI playing, I figured it could only do better right? wrong. Something is up with the simulator, but still a great deck

Spoiler for Play Tips:
-No PC equals 18 turns of stalling. + any turns where potential damage will not knock you down below 40HP
- Even if damage has not hit 20 playing SoSac with >10 damage still slows down damage.
- SoSac makes the opponent not play creatures and burrow everything. This can be used 3 ways.
     - Make the AI discard cards such as Miracle and prevent them from drawing it in the first place.
     - Can be used to limit the amount of creatures are on the field for feral bond gods.
     - Makes gods such as Rainbow and Seism to burrow graboids. which essentially reduce damage done permanantly. Helps surviving gaps in stalling.
- Steal shouldn't really count as PC because the stalling effect still stays.

Spoiler for God by God Breakdown:
Akebono - Easy - no Healing SoF hurts the sundial part of the stall but damage is high enough that SoSac should be fine stalling.

Chaos Lord - Easy - Watch drawing cards as arsenic will not add poison after diss shield comes.

Dark Matter - Easy - Even with BH denial, no Healing no PC = easy win.

Decay - Hard - play all opening towers. and anything you can play from that quanta. once he locks you down, keep pillars in hand discarding now useless SoD once you have 2 towers play them both to play some sort of damage. watch out for siphons.

Destiny - Easy - no PC no Healing The only issue with Destiny is her not getting enough damage from fate eggs.

Divine Glory - Hard - Miracles are just hard to bypass.

Dream Catcher - Medium - No Healing. Sundials are semi useless use them to draw early game because once BE comes you have to 1+x permanants to stall a turn where x is the number of BE'd creatures. on top of all that you need to worry about her getting enough damage.

Elidnis - Medium - No PC but Feral Bonds Use sundials as quick as you can to draw. Usually gets a slow start but once she gets ~4 creatures on the board you should be able to chain. SoSac to prevent more feral bonds or creatures.

Eternal Phoenix - Medium - No healing lots of explosions. Fractal, Firebolt, lightning, Ruby Dragons. Burst damage is the name of the game. Keep an SoD if you can to prevent any surprise damage to knock you below 40HP. with no healing always play it safe with SoSac.

Ferox - Impossible - So much healing

Fire Queen - Hard - her draws are terrible sometimes, draw as quick as you can with sundials, stalling wont be your issue here. if she gets 2 owls eyes before a firefly queen play sosac to prevent the spawning of creatures. If she gets a firefly queen out, and a bond or 2 just quit.

Gemini - Easy - no PC no Healing. watch out for mass TU's but should be a walkover every time.

Graviton - Easy - No healing limited PC(only 4 explosions). Growth creatures do not fare well against SoSac. and with almost no burst damage, you know exactly what is coming every turn.

Hecate - Hard - Liquid shadow + Vamp dagger is hard to overcome. Sundials stop vampiric healing so try to save a few to chain late game.

Hermes - Easy - lolwut? Hermes easy? once again growth creatures don't fare well against SoSac. will most likely waste explosions on towers when his hand gets full. watch out for firebolts and lots of lava golems.

Incarnate - Hard - Plan of attack would be to rush as much poison as possible, chain SoSac early to limit the # of vampires then chain sundial to make vampiric healing = 0.

Jezebel - Medium - If she gets a dark nymph you will probably lose. if she doesn't you win. Dont draw too much because vamp dagger does heal quite a bit.

Lionheart - Easy - No PC no Healing no burst damage potential...

Miracle - Impossible - WTFBBQ if you chain SoSac's for while you might be able get her to discard miracle because of its high cost. she top decks miracles like a boss.
 
Morte - Medium - No PC Rol's lead to miracle. if you can prevent miracle by strategically playing SoSac to allow archangel play yet limit RoL play.

Neptune - Easy - No Healing no PC, her only issue if shockwaves clog her hand and she gets terrible starts. Essentially she is so bad she is good.

Obliterator - Easy - no healing limited PC Slow damage potential and if pulvy gets played play 2 perms a turn to stall. 

Octane - Hard - No healing some PC hope he gets >=2 eagle's eyes on the field to fuel your SoSac shield. if you let the SoSac chain drop you lose so time it right.

Osiris - Easy - no Healing no burst damage. watch catapult damage

Paradox - Medium - No PC Miracles. Chain SoSac for a while to force discards or limit drawing. you can fight through 1 miracle.

Rainbow - Medium - Lots of PC Miracle. Damage isnt an issue and SoSac clogs her hand terribly, so dont be surprised when miracle isnt there when the HP gets low.

Scorpio - Easy - No PC 2 purifies - Arsenic alone gets the job done. save a few poisons in hand to counteract purify if it ever comes.

Seism - Easy - No PC Stone Skin. Do not draw with sundials. Use SoSac to burrow shriekers to limit damage, and you can last through up to 3-4 Stone skins.

Serket - Easy - No PC no Healing chain a few sundials at the start the limit the poison damage.



  deck     Poison Dials SoSac   
  players     Sevs   
  version    1.293 
  win-rate     70.35%   
  $ track ?    enabled 
  win-rate (n)     69.47%   
  games    172 
  Score/h     1777   
  win-loss-(EM)     121-51-(0)   
  Score/h (n)    1741   
  time (h:m:s)     09:36:40   
  FGei[c]*    8243   
  min/game     03:21   
  FGei[cn]*    8056   
      Statmasta™realtec                                                               


Spoiler for god by god:
  score/h  FGei(c)   Statmasta™realtec    wins losses skips EM/Wins
   3626
   2860
   2125
   -694
   2970
   -599
   1244
   1194
   2881
   -490
   108
   3651
   3413
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   3110
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   1758
   3443
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   2542
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   752
   3044
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   2459
   2517
   3210
   16813
   10488
   10429
   -694
   12030
   -599
   7241
   4538
   14142
   -490
   2034
   14393
   13046
   2324   
   10462
   1495
   8694
   13180
   -434
   5896
   13249
   10360
   9697
   13915
   8267
   7340
   8075
   10504
   14832
Akebono
Chaos Lord
Dark Matter
Decay
Destiny
Divine Glory
Dream Catcher
Elidnis
Eternal Phoenix
Ferox
Fire Queen
Gemini
Graviton
Hecate
Hermes
Incarnate
Jezebel
Lionheart
Miracle
Morte
Neptune
Obliterator
Octane
Osiris
Paradox
Rainbow
Scorpio
Seism
Serket
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  deck     Poison Dials SoSac   
  players     Sevs   
  version    1.293 
  win-rate     68.02%   
  $ track ?    enabled 
  win-rate (n)     67.15%   
  games    172 
  Score/h     2268   
  win-loss-(EM)     117-55-(0)   
  Score/h (n)    2246   
  time (h:m:s)     07:17:20   
  FGei[c]*    10485   
  min/game     02:33   
  FGei[cn]*    10360   
      Statmasta™realtec                                                               


Spoiler for god by god:
  score/h  FGei(c)   Statmasta™realtec    wins losses skips EM/Wins
   3626
   2860
   2125
   -21600
   2970
   -21600
   1244
   1194
   2881
   -21600
   -21600
   3651
   3413
   -21600   
   3110
   -21600
   1758
   3443
   -21600
   1320
   2542
   2042
   752
   3044
   2064
   2063
   2459
   2517
   3210
   16813
   10488
   10429
   -21600
   12030
   -21600
   7241
   4538
   14142
   -21600
   -21600
   14393
   13046
   -21600   
   10462
   -21600
   8694
   13180
   -21600
   5896
   13249
   10360
   9697
   13915
   8267
   7340
   8075
   10504
   14832
Akebono
Chaos Lord
Dark Matter
Decay
Destiny
Divine Glory
Dream Catcher
Elidnis
Eternal Phoenix
Ferox
Fire Queen
Gemini
Graviton
Hecate
Hermes
Incarnate
Jezebel
Lionheart
Miracle
Morte
Neptune
Obliterator
Octane
Osiris
Paradox
Rainbow
Scorpio
Seism
Serket
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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg470102#msg470102
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2012, 04:05:34 PM »
I love it!

Too bad I still don't have 6 SoSac...

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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg470105#msg470105
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2012, 04:26:23 PM »
Ooh, nice!
How well will it do unupped? Also what's the upping priority?
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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg470107#msg470107
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2012, 04:36:17 PM »
I have been playing this deck since Higs posted a screenshot in chat. It was her last turn, and the field pretty much shows what is in her whole deck. I figured out the exact number of the cards in no time (which is a bit different from this :) ), and grind plat and FG like crazy. This deck at least bring me half of my score (~200k) in the past few months, and it is both a bit sad and glad to see that it is finally revealed. :)

and I still don't see how you can beat Octane twice, Sevs. o.O
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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg470111#msg470111
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2012, 05:19:25 PM »
For FG farming, with only a few purifies among the all the FGs, poison dials like this should work pretty nice.
However, I would like to know whether this or SPlat remains superior in Plat farming (partially because it's all that I care now lol).
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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg470155#msg470155
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2012, 07:42:35 PM »
I have been playing this deck since Higs posted a screenshot in chat. It was her last turn, and the field pretty much shows what is in her whole deck. I figured out the exact number of the cards in no time (which is a bit different from this :) ), and grind plat and FG like crazy. This deck at least bring me half of my score (~200k) in the past few months, and it is both a bit sad and glad to see that it is finally revealed. :)

and I still don't see how you can beat Octane twice, Sevs. o.O
Yea if you read the origin spoiler, I only posted it because someone else posted a very similar version. And octane really isn't that bad. with 2 owls eye on the field, you are losing 6 HP per turn and have protection from unstable gas. SoD gives you 24 health so 2 SoSa and an SoD gives you 4 turns of survival.
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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg470189#msg470189
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2012, 10:07:54 PM »
Hmm, I've seen this deck plenty of times in PvP2, but it never occurred to me to try it against FGs - maybe because I usually beat it.

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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg471384#msg471384
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2012, 09:17:17 AM »
Looks like it's the best FG farming deck out there :) Congrats !

Edit: for your missing stats, I faced 2 times Chaos Lord and won 2 times (and both EM :D)

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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg471481#msg471481
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2012, 06:59:44 PM »
Definitely going to farm for these shards now. And just when I thought having six SoSe and SoR upped was good enough. Now I have to get these? Dash it all.

The deck simply looks phenomenal. Can't wait to have it built.   :)

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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg471488#msg471488
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2012, 07:58:30 PM »
Very effective, I had been farming shards for the past few weeks, and I just happened to have 6 SoSac and 6 SoD (even though it only uses 3 SoD) upped. Fairly fast, consistent against FGs. Arena is a bit more iffy for me, but a good deck. Also a bit more interesting than Instosis, it's not quite as boring for me.

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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg471665#msg471665
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2012, 11:56:59 AM »
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Re: Poison Dials SoSac [FG][Arena] http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37412.msg471668#msg471668
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2012, 12:17:14 PM »
I really like the deck and fully appreciate your effort in collecting lots of stats to show it's effectiveness, but isn't making a new topic is a little redundant with http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,36792.0.html already exisitng? The only difference is that you subtracted one arsenic and added one more SoD, which is only ever useful for plat SoSac decks and not FG's. Omgreaper was already upset animation posted poision dials seperate from his topic, why make another one?

Maybe you could have asked either animation or omgreaper to post your stats in their OP's?

 

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