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Malignant Chimera [fun][never seen strategy?] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35788.msg450331#msg450331
« on: January 18, 2012, 10:05:13 pm »
Trying out a lot of stuff I have never seen before I come to some strange combinations, such as the following:

Malignant Chimera:
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Strategy:
Play a photon with aflatoxin. If really necessary stall with armagio.
Wait until you have 16 malignant cells (or more if the enemy hasn't too many creatures).
If possible play an armagio and then use chimera. You'll get an 18 atk chimera with 36 hp.
Now if you have the cards immediately restart the combo. You can play an armagio to change
the gravity pull to him, so that your chimera is free to continue it's attack. because it's the only real critter you have you should take care of it.
There may be situations where it's an advantage to use an aflatoxin on an enemie's creature, just be sure that your
skull buckler is there and won't be destroyed.
A big disadvantage is, that you need some turns to build up your malignant cells, but on the other hand they also can do some good starting dmg.

I guess that's it ;)

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Re: Malignant Chimera [fun][never seen strategy?] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35788.msg450409#msg450409
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2012, 03:20:10 am »
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Re: Malignant Chimera [fun][never seen strategy?] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35788.msg450454#msg450454
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2012, 06:51:10 am »
Shard of Patience? It doubles your damage output, and if you're about to play Chimera you couldn't care less if your creatures get delayed.

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Re: Malignant Chimera [fun][never seen strategy?] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35788.msg450463#msg450463
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2012, 09:16:20 am »
Shard of Patience? It doubles your damage output, and if you're about to play Chimera you couldn't care less if your creatures get delayed.
Great idea! didn't think about that! I'll give it a try and report the results :)
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Re: Malignant Chimera [fun][never seen strategy?] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35788.msg450675#msg450675
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2012, 02:34:15 am »
@mwaeth:
So, I've made this version. IMO it works better because you can use chimera earlier if needed.
(In fact, one SoP has the same effect as waiting one more turn to double the cells).
So, thanks a lot for your tip :)

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Re: Malignant Chimera [fun][never seen strategy?] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35788.msg450694#msg450694
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2012, 04:54:32 am »
Thanks, but I wasn't the one that came up with it; I stole the idea from Aggro Prokaryotes.

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Re: Malignant Chimera [fun][never seen strategy?] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35788.msg451931#msg451931
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2012, 05:55:18 pm »
***TRIALS RESPONSE***

Commenting on the second deck ( as it seems to be the updated one with more attack) the deck Idea is vastly interesting , with the SoP and the Photons, though it also reminds me of the SoP Chimera combo in another thread (I forgot the link; sorry.) The way or the other the Armagio is a nice twist and makes it so your chimera survives for longer, building up to a last massive chimera.  The Skull Buckler is also a nice addition that makes it so the deck has “some” survivability to the opponent (and now that I look at it, it seems that the deck will also more likely than not be able to handle even if by whatever reason you decide to use Aflatoxin on your opponent to lock down.) After thinking a bit I thought that the Armagios, though nice for the twist that they make, may slow you down a bit on the damage queue (Considering that most of your damage will come from the SoP’d Malignant Cells + Chimera). Ultimately the deck seems to be on a bit heavy on Gravity Quanta, though I can’t speak for sure. Also looks –slightly- light on death quanta, though again, most of the cards you have there are needs.

I think that adding a few Chargers or a Bone Dragon would make the deck go up a bit in the Damage requisite though you might end up heavy if you do that with the Dragon. My main idea of Chargers still remain as they are pretty much en pair with the Armagio in a cost to cost basis (Both cost 5; though Armagio has a ability with 1 gravity and charger has not.)
It’s just a simple mod; more can be done such as the Dragon, but that would have to require a possible cut down of a 1 chimera –1 armagio +1 death pend + 1 Bone Dragon, or possibly -2 Armagios +1 Bone Dragon +1 Pendulum; the quanta balance on how to make the Dragon fix escapes me for now though. I think that the -1 Chimera  -1 Armagio seems Solid from here; I’ll try to do some quanta balancing.

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Slight modification of one to other but one clearly has more stalling potential due to the extra armagio, if you do the mod.
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(Dunno where this one came from, just popped into my head while I was messing with the deck. Probably not too good but, 'ey. Looks low on quanta for gravity though.)
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Re: Malignant Chimera [fun][never seen strategy?] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35788.msg452146#msg452146
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2012, 02:04:47 am »
***TRIALS RESPONSE***

Commenting on the second deck ( as it seems to be the updated one with more attack) the deck Idea is vastly interesting , with the SoP and the Photons, though it also reminds me of the SoP Chimera combo in another thread (I forgot the link; sorry.) The way or the other the Armagio is a nice twist and makes it so your chimera survives for longer, building up to a last massive chimera.  The Skull Buckler is also a nice addition that makes it so the deck has “some” survivability to the opponent (and now that I look at it, it seems that the deck will also more likely than not be able to handle even if by whatever reason you decide to use Aflatoxin on your opponent to lock down.) After thinking a bit I thought that the Armagios, though nice for the twist that they make, may slow you down a bit on the damage queue (Considering that most of your damage will come from the SoP’d Malignant Cells + Chimera). Ultimately the deck seems to be on a bit heavy on Gravity Quanta, though I can’t speak for sure. Also looks –slightly- light on death quanta, though again, most of the cards you have there are needs.

I think that adding a few Chargers or a Bone Dragon would make the deck go up a bit in the Damage requisite though you might end up heavy if you do that with the Dragon. My main idea of Chargers still remain as they are pretty much en pair with the Armagio in a cost to cost basis (Both cost 5; though Armagio has a ability with 1 gravity and charger has not.)
It’s just a simple mod; more can be done such as the Dragon, but that would have to require a possible cut down of a 1 chimera –1 armagio +1 death pend + 1 Bone Dragon, or possibly -2 Armagios +1 Bone Dragon +1 Pendulum; the quanta balance on how to make the Dragon fix escapes me for now though. I think that the -1 Chimera  -1 Armagio seems Solid from here; I’ll try to do some quanta balancing.

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Slight modification of one to other but one clearly has more stalling potential due to the extra armagio, if you do the mod.
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(Dunno where this one came from, just popped into my head while I was messing with the deck. Probably not too good but, 'ey. Looks low on quanta for gravity though.)
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I don't know what's going on today but this is the third trials response I got (and I don't even know what exactly they are...)? :o
Anyway, I enjoy this answer and I want to thank you really really much for trying different ideas to improve my deck as well as for the time and effort you put in all this :)

You're right, the dmg output isn't very high. The only attack in my version were the Cells and afterwards the chimera. Also, as you said, both gravity and death are tight on their quanta. That's why I find it difficult to fit in a dragon though it's nice having it on the field once you have the quanta. I tried all your versions and think that the charger and the one with two dragons are the best :) Having just two chimera is too less imo. That's why I reworked on it considering your thoughts and came up with this. I'd be very interested in what you think about it :D It's a mix of the charger and dragon version:

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I took out a photon as I seem to have them often enough in my starting hand. Even if not I can still stall with armagios and/or attack with chargers. The dragon works well if the photon still doesn't want to show up. Also, I often can accumulate :death while the cells are building up as this step takes 3 turns which depending on the amount of pends can be enough.

I want to thank you one more time and I'm really glad you made these versions. I believe that (also) thanks to you this deck has become very powerful.  :)

EDIT: I don't know if this was the deck you've seen, but it also uses the SoP Chimera.
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Re: Malignant Chimera [fun][never seen strategy?] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35788.msg452148#msg452148
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2012, 02:09:03 am »
Have you noticed that certain members have "Master of ___" under their name? The trials are a competition to take the title for yourself. As part of the first phase of the trial, they are required to comment on decks corresponding to their element. You probably wouldn't get such in-depth comments as much otherwise.
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Re: Malignant Chimera [fun][never seen strategy?] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35788.msg452149#msg452149
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yeah i am curious too about that trials response thing... whats it all about?

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Re: Malignant Chimera [fun][never seen strategy?] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35788.msg452150#msg452150
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2012, 02:11:51 am »
yeah i am curious too about that trials response thing... whats it all about?
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Re: Malignant Chimera [fun][never seen strategy?] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35788.msg452153#msg452153
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2012, 02:16:51 am »
yeah i am curious too about that trials response thing... whats it all about?
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