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Experimental Life Air and Light Deck - Been calling it Hope https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55831.msg1156662#msg1156662
« on: September 22, 2014, 10:11:39 am »
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This is an experimental deck that I created today and it's not half bad. This managed to kill two False Gods and stale mated another but unfortunately I ran out of cards so lost. Tell me what you guys think.
 Works best against decks without creature control. The FG I lost to after stale mate was Ferox.
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Re: Experimental Life Air and Light Deck - Been calling it Hope https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55831.msg1156667#msg1156667
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2014, 10:44:33 am »
The first thing that comes to mind is that "there's only 2 hopes."
The second thing that comes to mind is "what FGs did you beat?"

Third thing that comes to mind this deck is all over the place.

You could just remove the scorpions, rustlers and mitosis entirely and I'd still be happy with it.

Life stall generally has 6 Empathic Bonds and 6 SoGs/Staffs. I'd also recommend owl's eye
FFQ decks generally use life mark with all air pendulums, but given your... bias, towards life, I can understand using all life pends.

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Re: Experimental Life Air and Light Deck - Been calling it Hope https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55831.msg1156685#msg1156685
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2014, 01:28:49 pm »
The first thing that comes to mind is that "there's only 2 hopes."
The second thing that comes to mind is "what FGs did you beat?"

Third thing that comes to mind this deck is all over the place.

You could just remove the scorpions, rustlers and mitosis entirely and I'd still be happy with it.

Life stall generally has 6 Empathic Bonds and 6 SoGs/Staffs. I'd also recommend owl's eye
FFQ decks generally use life mark with all air pendulums, but given your... bias, towards life, I can understand using all life pends.

I know there's only two Hope cards here but you only need 1 and it only works when there's enough Fireflies out. So if there are creature control cards, then the Queens can be eliminated before I have enough to put up the shields. As for False Gods(Didn't see the names. First time playing against FGs), this deck isn't intended as Fg killers, I just got lucky.
I have been playing Elements for a long time and have always just fooled around with Rainbow decks that didn't actually do anything. This is the first time I have build a serious deck(Started out with Life Mono. Then Life Water with Forest Spirits). I'm just trying to build a good deck using Life. Just experimenting. This deck relies a lot on luck.
I have a screen shot of the match against Ferox but I'm not able to post it.

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Re: Experimental Life Air and Light Deck - Been calling it Hope https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55831.msg1156694#msg1156694
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2014, 03:28:29 pm »
The first thing that I see is a fire fly queen deck, one with poor balance. Focus the deck. It doesn't need to be needlessly big. Either go life rush, or firefly queens, not both. That just hurts the deck.
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Re: Experimental Life Air and Light Deck - Been calling it Hope https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55831.msg1156720#msg1156720
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2014, 07:20:21 pm »
In 30 card decks, if you >need< 1 of a card in the game, you tend to put 3 copies of it in.
This is a 42 card deck with 2 hopes. The amount of hopes you draw just doesn't feel like enough.
I'd put another 2 in.

Omega is quite correct, too.

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Re: Experimental Life Air and Light Deck - Been calling it Hope https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55831.msg1156828#msg1156828
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2014, 09:49:19 am »
Thanks for the input guys. I'm very new to deck building and am trying several experimental decks with the element Life.

Here's another one that I use. Its a mono deck and works only up to level 4 and a few Silver decks.

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Re: Experimental Life Air and Light Deck - Been calling it Hope https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55831.msg1156871#msg1156871
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2014, 02:33:45 pm »
Better now. But could still be better. Your deck is large, which while it doesn't hurt this particular deck a lot, still hurts a little. More cards means more chance for bad draw. Adrenaline isn't helpful on dragons, and scorpions are easily blocked. 30 cards for optimal draw chance, but like mentioned, not entirely necessary for this deck at the moment.

I would choose either adrena frogs with cockatrices as add ins, or dragons with cockatrices for add ins.
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Re: Experimental Life Air and Light Deck - Been calling it Hope https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55831.msg1156884#msg1156884
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2014, 04:44:04 pm »
Better now. But could still be better. Your deck is large, which while it doesn't hurt this particular deck a lot, still hurts a little. More cards means more chance for bad draw. Adrenaline isn't helpful on dragons, and scorpions are easily blocked. 30 cards for optimal draw chance, but like mentioned, not entirely necessary for this deck at the moment.

I would choose either adrena frogs with cockatrices as add ins, or dragons with cockatrices for add ins.

I kept the deck a little large to get a better chance because this deck has no creature control, no permanent control and no shields and weapons. This has helped me win consecutive silver league matches. 

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Re: Experimental Life Air and Light Deck - Been calling it Hope https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55831.msg1156923#msg1156923
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2014, 10:05:28 pm »
Making it large makes the draws overall worse. Not to mention completely pointless against most decks with pc, and any deck without cc. So you are essentially making yourself rush and stall bait just to beat control decks. It isn't worth the issues.
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Re: Experimental Life Air and Light Deck - Been calling it Hope https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55831.msg1156925#msg1156925
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2014, 10:09:02 pm »
Cut 5 dragons and pillars, job done.
In fact, you only really need 10 pillars for that deck, even with the dragons.
Life decks, without any of the really expensive stuff, can get away with 8 pillars.

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Re: Experimental Life Air and Light Deck - Been calling it Hope https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55831.msg1156926#msg1156926
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2014, 10:17:57 pm »
Went ahead and ran tests with it just in case I happened to be off the mark. I wasn't. In most every game it was close at best. Won 3 out of 7 or something like that, with no wins right after each other. Either got rushed, or stalled out hard. Adrenaline didn't help when squids were involved. Dragons often sit in the hand for several turns because you are either playing other cards or need to save for quanta.

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Re: Experimental Life Air and Light Deck - Been calling it Hope https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55831.msg1156929#msg1156929
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2014, 10:19:24 pm »
Thanks for the input guys. I'm very new to deck building and am trying several experimental decks with the element Life.

Here's another one that I use. Its a mono deck and works only up to level 4 and a few Silver decks.

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I'd take out 5 of those pillars, those dragons, and replace those scorpions with cockatrices just for their low cost and versatility.

 

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