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Title: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: Zawadx on May 03, 2015, 01:16:20 pm

TRIALS WILL (HOPEFULLY) BEGIN BY:
TRIALS HAVE BEGUN!


TRIALS
   Challenge a Master, Become a Master



What is a Master?
Each of the 12 Elements has a Master, which is a forum title. A Master is usually a decorated and respected veteran player who knows a lot about Elements and is skillful in PvP. Masters generally lead their elements in big forum events like War and Brawl, manage their respective Card sections, and defend their title against challengers during Trials. The Staff page (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?action=staff) has all the current Masters listed.

Link to Table of Past Masters (A Gdoc) (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlBBaBnQXMSLdDBIVmh1NW5ESkVVYndtemNBVHIzLXc#gid=21)

Link to Trials Deck Archive, and list of Masters (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,41610.0.html)


What are Trials?
As part of the Forum Major Event Cycle, before each War, we will hold Trials. During Trials, community members compete for a chance to challenge one of the 12 Masters.  Trials have 4 parts.  The first three parts are for collecting points.  The one challenger from each element with the most points gets to fight for the title against the current Master. How many points you gathered during parts 1-3 determines how many upgraded cards you can use in the epic Final Battle, where the winner gets the title of Master.


Requirements for joining Trials?
Not everyone can join the Trials. There are some minimum requirements to ensure that the person is serious about becoming a Master.
Spamming the forums to get those 200 posts is not allowed, and you have to provide a screen shot of your score.

A player may participate in Trials without meeting the 200 post and 50,000 score requirements if they are able to provide evidence of a significant PVP achievement. Examples of sufficient achievements include:
One last thing. Some people might think they are not "worthy" of becoming a Master so they skip this event. Please don't do that. This is all just for fun, and shouldn't be taken too seriously. If you think this kind of event would be fun, we order you to participate. Like we always say, if you manage to take a title from that Master, that alone proves you have earned it.


How do I join Trials?
Once Phase 1 has begun, there will be a thread titled "9th Trials - Phase 1" under each of the Elements.  Simply post the following information in the thread under the Element you are challenging (you may only challenge 1 Element).  This post may be edited as many times as desired up to the end of Phase 1.


-Evidence of Score Requirement
-Evidence of Established Account Requirement
-Name of Task
-Evidence of completion
-Name of Task
-Evidence of completion
-Name of Task
-Evidence of completion
-Evidence of participation last war for the same element you are challenging (or defending as a Master)
-If you were a General, evidence of your General-ship
-Tell us how many times you have participated in Trials for this element before
-Give us evidence of your participation in each of those trials

Masters returning to defend their titles should drop by the Challenger's Entrance to scope out their challengers and also provide us with their War Bonus and Loyalty Bonus information.  Masters are already worthy, and will not need to prove their worthiness in Phase 1.  They do, however, still need to sign up.

It is no longer
Time to join!

After the Phase 1 timer has ended, there will be a 24hr period of "Extra Time" where players may join any Element with less than 2 competitors (that is either 1 challenger and no defending master or no challengers and a defending master).  Players who join during this extra time will be considered to have declared for tasks Waging War on FGs, Starting Your Own Little War, and Beginning War Training.  However, because they completed no challenges before Phase 1 ended, they WILL NOT have access to the upgrades from Beginning War Training.

NO MORE
Extra-time



PATH TO BECOMING A MASTER

Trials has 4 different phases. Phases 1-3 are for collecting points. Last phase is the Final Battle between the current Master and the most promising challenger or the two most promising challengers if there is no defending Master. The points you collected in Phases 1-3 determines how many upgraded cards you can use in the fight.



PHASE 1 - Proving of Worthiness

For 10 days after the elemental registration topics are posted, you may register to join trials by declaring which Proving of Worthiness tasks you intend to complete. Completing these tasks will award up to a total of 8 points to use in the final battle. These points will also provide bonuses for Phase 2 deckbuilding. Masters who wish to defend their titles will sign up in their respective registration topics but do not need to declare tasks, as they will automatically be assigned the "Returning Master" task.  No new sign-ups will be accepted after Phase 1 has ended (except per the appropriate rules and/or addendum).



PHASE 2 - Battles

All participants will play a total of 24 games, 12 in element games and 12 off element games, distributed as evenly as possible between opponents of the same element(s).  If extra opponents are required to ensure each challenger has 24 games, the extra opponents will be, if possible, the same for every person in a single trial.   Winning a game awards 0.5 points, if that game was against a current Master, it will also award a bonus 0.25 points.  For in-element games, Masters and challengers will play against each other.  For off-element games, Masters will only play other Masters, and challengers will only play other challengers.



Any player who does not post their Phase 2 decks during the 2 days between the end of Phase 2 and the beginning of Phase 3 will both not receive Phase 2 points and be disallowed from being in the Phase 3 poll.



PHASE 3 - Community Vote
The community votes on who they think would make the best Master. Each community member has one vote per element, and can vote for one of the Challengers, the current Master, or simply place a no-vote (i.e. they do not want to see any of the Trialists as Master and are voting for no-one).
Anyone who does not post their Phase 2 decks in the 2 days between the end of Phase 2 and the beginning of Phase 3 will not be included in the Phase 3 polls. This applies to Masters as well.

It is an encouraged tradition that during Phase 3 the community may ask questions of the challengers and that the challengers answer these questions to the best of their ability.

The number of points you score is based on the percentage of votes you get.



* War Bonus *
Trialists who participated in the previous War will receive extra points based on how successful they were.  This bonus is increased if the participant was the General, per the table below.  War bonus points for Challengers will only come into effect if they make it to the final battle.

Please include if the War Bonus applies to you when you sign up.  If you do not claim your War Bonus during Phase 1, it will not be awarded to you.


Rank in WarGeneralSoldier
1st in War75
2nd or 3rd53
4th-6th32
7th-12th21




* Brawl Bonus *
Trialists who participated in the most recent Brawl may also be eligible for a small number of bonus points.

Players on the team finishing 1st may receive 2 points, and those in 2nd and 3rd place may receive 1 point. Please include this in your post when you sign up for Trials, or the Brawl bonus points will not be awarded to you.


Elemental Loyalty

If you have participated in trials before, and you trial for an element you have trialed for before, for every trial you provide proof of participation for in your registration post, you can gain 1 point (maximum of 4). These points will not be added until the Final Battle. I will not look for proof of participation for you, and if it is not linked in your post you will not receive credit for it (yes, even if you are a master and retaining if you do not post proof you will not receive the point).

Proof of Participation may be at least one of the following for each Trial of an element you have participated in: Phase 1 submissions, Phase 2 battle reports, Phase 3 polling topics, and final battle reports.

Post this in your Registration Post.



TOTAL SCORE
After phases 1-3 are over, we will count the total score.

Challengers
PHASE 1   /8
PHASE 2   /12+
PHASE 3   /10
War bonus
/7
Brawl bonus
/2
Elemental Loyalty
/4
TOTAL SCORE   /43+
Masters
PHASE 1   /6
PHASE 2   /12+
PHASE 3   /10
War bonus
   /7
Brawl bonus
   /2
Elemental Loyalty
/4
TOTAL SCORE   /41+

The Final Battle will be between the current Master and the challenger with the most points, or between the two challengers with the most points if there is no defending Master for that Element.  In the event of a tie, the player who won the majority of their head-to-head games in Phase 2 advances.  If multiple players tie, the tiebreak will be games won during phase 2 in-element play.  If there is still a tie, the player with more votes in Phase 3 advances.  If there is still a tie, the player with the higher bonus points (loyalty+war) advances.  If there is still a tie, the player with higher in game score advances.


PHASE 4 - Final Battle
The Final Battle is "best-of-nine" meaning that the player who gets 5 wins first, wins the battle. If a Master wins, he or she retains the title. If a challenger wins, he or she becomes the new Master.  All Trials winners are given a forum award icon.

During Final Battle deckbuilding the maximum amount of upgraded cards allowed is the truncated integer number of points a player scored during phases 1-3 plus the war and loyalty bonuses.  (e.g. A player with 23.46 points will have 23 upgrades.  A player with 17.99 points will have 17 upgrades.)



During this event, all games must be played using the same account you used when registering for the event.



If you want to see what previous Trials looked like, please visit Trial Archive (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/board,183.0.html).

Thank you for reading and post any questions on this topic.
Title: Re: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: ddevans96 on May 03, 2015, 08:37:25 pm
Mind elaborating on the whole 24 games thing?
Title: Re: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: Zawadx on May 04, 2015, 01:07:51 am
Here, Games refers to a single game which ends once one of the players is brought down to 0 HP or is decked out.

Excerpt from Phase 2:


Title: Re: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: dawn to dusk on May 04, 2015, 05:40:06 am
Requirements for joining Trials?
Not everyone can join the Trials. There are some minimum requirements to ensure that the person is serious about becoming a Master.
  • 50,000+ score in Elements
  • 200+ forum posts
  • Joined the forums no less than 3 months ago (at the time of signing up)
  • Participation in at least three separate PVP Events (Leagues, War, Weekly Tournaments, etc.)
Spamming the forums to get those 200 posts is not allowed, and you have to provide a screen shot of your score.

A player may participate in Trials without meeting the 200 post and 50,000 score requirements if they are able to provide evidence of a significant PVP achievement. Examples of sufficient achievements include:
  • Winning a Weekly Tournament
  • Finishing in the Top 3 in Leagues or other forum PVP Events
  • Finishing on the winning War team
One last thing. Some people might think they are not "worthy" of becoming a Master so they skip this event. Please don't do that. This is all just for fun, and shouldn't be taken too seriously. If you think this kind of event would be fun, we order you to participate. Like we always say, if you manage to take a title from that Master, that alone proves you have earned it.

where does this put me? (i dont meet score req)
Title: Re: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: Physsion on May 04, 2015, 06:09:26 am
Edited the rulings to make it clear that earning a Master title for any Element is a sufficient PVP achievement.
Title: Re: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: Zso_Zso on May 04, 2015, 11:02:06 pm
I am struggling to find the definition of  tasks for the "PHASE 1 - Proving of Worthiness". Could somebody point me to them, please?
Title: Re: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: Zawadx on May 04, 2015, 11:25:14 pm
I am struggling to find the definition of  tasks for the "PHASE 1 - Proving of Worthiness". Could somebody point me to them, please?


The definition of tasks? What do you mean? I hope this clears up your confusion:

Phase 1 hasn't been posted yet, and will be posted along with the registration topics once trials starts. The tasks will be similar to last time, but not exactly the same.
Title: Re: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: Physsion on May 05, 2015, 06:27:45 am
Some small changes have been made regarding event bonus points.

The number of possible bonus points from War has been slightly reduced, from a maximum of 7 down to a maximum of 6.

A small number of bonus points are also now available for members of the top 3 Brawl teams.

EDIT: these changes have been reverted. Instead, a small reduction (-1) in bonus points will occur for those on different War teams to the Element they are trialing for.

In other words, Trialists competing for mastership in an Element they fought for in the most recent War will receive full bonus points, as detailed in the original post. Trialists competing for mastership after fighting in a different War team will receive the -1 point reduction.

As an example to make things extra clear, if Player A competes as a General for Team Light in War, and his team wins in first place, and Player A then enters the Trials of Light, he will receive the full 7 point War bonus.
If Player B competes on Team Aether as a Soldier, and comes in third place, and then enters the Trials of Darkness, he will receive a 2 point War bonus, instead of the 3 points he would receive if he entered the Trials of Aether.

Please let us know if you have any further feedback on this rule change.

A small number of bonus points is still awarded to the top three teams in the most recent Brawl.
Title: Re: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: ddevans96 on May 05, 2015, 06:36:20 am
  • Each player will play 24 games:
    • A player will not play more than nine games vs. a single opponent.
    • 12 in-element games will be distributed evenly across in-element opponents (Challengers in an element with a defending master will play against that Master in addition to the other challengers in that element).
    • 12 off-element games will be distributed evenly across off-element opponents.
    • Off-element matches will be vs the same off-element(s) for each element.

So, just as an example, Water gets 3 challengers, and 5 other masters (6 including me - there were 6 masters retaining last time) participate. The first part seems obvious - I play each challenger in a 4-game series, 4x3=12, correct? How would the master battles work, though?
Title: Re: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: Zawadx on May 05, 2015, 12:26:46 pm
  • Each player will play 24 games:
    • A player will not play more than nine games vs. a single opponent.
    • 12 in-element games will be distributed evenly across in-element opponents (Challengers in an element with a defending master will play against that Master in addition to the other challengers in that element).
    • 12 off-element games will be distributed evenly across off-element opponents.
    • Off-element matches will be vs the same off-element(s) for each element.

So, just as an example, Water gets 3 challengers, and 5 other masters (6 including me - there were 6 masters retaining last time) participate. The first part seems obvious - I play each challenger in a 4-game series, 4x3=12, correct? How would the master battles work, though?

Yes, three 4-game serieses for in-element.

For off element, you will face off against three masters twice, and two masters thrice. So each master will have at least two matches vs each other, and the remaining matches will be randomly assigned.
Title: Re: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: deuce22 on May 07, 2015, 05:42:21 pm
This doesn't apply to me, but the -1 reduction for participating in trials of an element you were not on the team of during the previous war doesn't make much sense to me, since there are a decent number of players that were drafted to teams that they didn't necessarily want to be a part of.
Title: Re: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: willng3 on May 07, 2015, 05:47:32 pm
This doesn't apply to me, but the -1 reduction for participating in trials of an element you were not on the team of during the previous war doesn't make much sense to me, since there are a decent number of players that were drafted to teams that they didn't necessarily want to be a part of.
Agreed. Would make much more sense if a penalty were delivered for participating in an element that was banned from bidding/drafting in the first place by the player in question.
Title: Re: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: majofa on May 07, 2015, 07:15:37 pm
Some small changes have been made regarding event bonus points.

The number of possible bonus points from War has been slightly reduced, from a maximum of 7 down to a maximum of 6.

A small number of bonus points are also now available for members of the top 3 Brawl teams.

EDIT: these changes have been reverted. Instead, a small reduction (-1) in bonus points will occur for those on different War teams to the Element they are trialing for.

In other words, Trialists competing for mastership in an Element they fought for in the most recent War will receive full bonus points, as detailed in the original post. Trialists competing for mastership after fighting in a different War team will receive the -1 point reduction.

As an example to make things extra clear, if Player A competes as a General for Team Light in War, and his team wins in first place, and Player A then enters the Trials of Light, he will receive the full 7 point War bonus.
If Player B competes on Team Aether as a Soldier, and comes in third place, and then enters the Trials of Darkness, he will receive a 2 point War bonus, instead of the 3 points he would receive if he entered the Trials of Aether.

Please let us know if you have any further feedback on this rule change.

A small number of bonus points is still awarded to the top three teams in the most recent Brawl.
^That is a bad rule - this is my feedback.
Title: Re: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: RootRanger on May 07, 2015, 09:45:04 pm
Will there be a Grandmaster battle if I win the Trials of Fire?
Title: Re: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: Vangelios on May 07, 2015, 10:27:29 pm
If Deuce defend  :aether master title, then yes.
Or if deuce loses :aether title and you win vs me, then you will be grand master.
Title: Re: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: Zawadx on May 08, 2015, 12:35:50 am
This doesn't apply to me, but the -1 reduction for participating in trials of an element you were not on the team of during the previous war doesn't make much sense to me, since there are a decent number of players that were drafted to teams that they didn't necessarily want to be a part of.

The rules have been changed to remove this reduction. Thank you all for your feedback regarding this, and if you feel like there are any other bad rules, please feel free to suggest changes.
ftr, the reason we went through with this penalty was because we believed that 1 final battle upgrade wouldn't amount to much. But I suppose it was unfair. Hopefully the new rules will be a better reflection of a player's deserved merit from War.

Will there be a Grandmaster battle if I win the Trials of Fire?

As Vange said; if deuce manages to defend :aether and you win Trials of Fire, there will be a Grandmaster battle. If either of you loses Trials, the Grandmaster title will go to the other. If both of you fail to win, there might be no Grandmaster for a while; TrOs will provide a ruling if that matter comes to pass.
Title: Re: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: deuce22 on May 08, 2015, 01:13:04 am
What if I decide to apply for another element and win master of that element, do I keep my title or battle for it if Root wins fire?
Title: Re: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: Higurashi on May 08, 2015, 01:16:47 am
You would keep your title and duel Root if he wins one as well. I don't intend the GM title to be tied to an element, but rather to your achievements as a Master-General.
Title: Re: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: Vangelios on May 08, 2015, 01:22:21 am
What if I decide to apply for another element and win master of that element, do I keep my title or battle for it if Root wins fire?
If you lose the :aether title you lost grand master title, and Root no be master of fire then can't a duel to be grand master.
Title: Re: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: Zawadx on May 08, 2015, 01:27:01 am
What if I decide to apply for another element and win master of that element, do I keep my title or battle for it if Root wins fire?

As Higs said.

Vange, I appreciate your enthusiasm, but this is a ruling for the Admins and TrOs. Please don't say anything that might make people think otherwise :/
Title: Re: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: Vangelios on May 08, 2015, 01:31:57 am
What if I decide to apply for another element and win master of that element, do I keep my title or battle for it if Root wins fire?

As Higs said.

Vange, I appreciate your enthusiasm, but this is a ruling for the Admins and TrOs. Please don't say anything that might make people think otherwise :/
ok not problem, I just do not understand why deuce can win another trial and continue GM and why Root need only be master of fire to try be GM.
Title: Re: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: Higurashi on May 08, 2015, 01:57:52 am
Because he led Fire to victory.. just as deuce led Aether to victory in order to get his title. If deuce wants to lead another element to victory, he's free to do so, but he'd only keep the GM title if he won. I mean, it's all pretty obvious.
Title: Re: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: Vangelios on May 08, 2015, 02:16:39 am
first of all...
Thank you
Seemed to me, war + master to be GM, but when you is GM the status change because the GM was victorious with your team like general and master, make sense more or less, anyway deuce in another trial would be nice to see. :)
Title: Re: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: dawn to dusk on May 08, 2015, 05:37:49 am
What if I decide to apply for another element and win master of that element, do I keep my title or battle for it if Root wins fire?
but you would never do that

...

right?
Title: Re: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: deuce22 on May 08, 2015, 06:10:51 am
There are rumors of such mystical events. But I can neither confirm nor deny...
Title: Re: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: RootRanger on May 15, 2015, 05:06:19 am
Just so I'm absolutely clear on this, am I eligible for a grandmaster battle only if I win the Trials of Fire specifically? Because as it is right now, nobody has entered Light :(
Title: Re: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: Zawadx on May 15, 2015, 05:21:25 am
Just so I'm absolutely clear on this, am I eligible for a grandmaster battle only if I win the Trials of Fire specifically? Because as it is right now, nobody has entered Light :(

Yes. I appreciate your concern about Light, but the Grandmaster system has to make sense. But I will consult about this.
Title: Re: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: JonathanCrazyJ on June 10, 2015, 10:58:41 am
I'm struggling to find a count-down clock for Phase 3 anywhere?
Title: Re: 9th Trials - Rules
Post by: Zawadx on June 10, 2015, 11:03:34 am
I'm struggling to find a count-down clock for Phase 3 anywhere?

Phase 3 ends when polls end
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