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11th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64311.msg1261550#msg1261550
« on: March 29, 2017, 11:51:05 pm »
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Re: 11th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64311.msg1261551#msg1261551
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2017, 12:42:02 am »
Allow Warmasters and Brawlmasters to receive the war bonus points from brawl bonus points respectively. I'm not suggesting a full 5/4 points like 1st place General/Boss, but even something small like 2 points for General/Boss of the last place teams.

Both sets of staff work hard to run their respective events and most likely put an equal effort of time and work as those teams participating, it is sad to see them lose out at points for hosting instead of participating.



EDIT: Also to add to that what about Brawl's Voter's panel? as the most recent brawl required a voting panel and members who may have abstained from participation due to taking on the role of voter's panel now also miss out on the Brawl's bonus points. If Brawl continues to have such extra roles removing from possible participants, will Future Trials allow other possible ways to gain those missed bonus point opportunities.
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Re: 11th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64311.msg1261558#msg1261558
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2017, 04:08:10 am »
For the warmaster part, I remember thinking about that at some point, too. Then I forgot.

Anyway, unless the organizers were really lazy, I'd go so far as giving them a bonus that equals what their opponent gets. It's only for the final battle, so you're only just taking the disadvantage away.

I suppose you could do something similar for brawlmasters... but I don't agree with doing it for the voting panel. Not the full amount, anyway.

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Re: 11th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64311.msg1261574#msg1261574
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2017, 02:31:33 pm »
IIRC there were a few people during Brawl who said to me that Master's shouldn't get first dibs on being Boss, that it should be seperate from mastership. I pointed out to them that this is because Trials and Mastership has always had connection and that I couldn't just remove it since some people might have become Masters at least partly because of Brawl, and because Masters are "expected" to be Bosses (even if this is not happening too much). This (the removal of Msaters as Bosses) is not something I neccessarily agree with myself, but if you do think that Brawl and Mastership should be split, this is the place to complain folks! (I guess?)
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Re: 11th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64311.msg1261576#msg1261576
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2017, 02:47:41 pm »
IIRC there were a few people during Brawl who said to me that Master's shouldn't get first dibs on being Boss, that it should be seperate from mastership. I pointed out to them that this is because Trials and Mastership has always had connection and that I couldn't just remove it since some people might have become Masters at least partly because of Brawl, and because Masters are "expected" to be Bosses (even if this is not happening too much). This (the removal of Msaters as Bosses) is not something I neccessarily agree with myself, but if you do think that Brawl and Mastership should be split, this is the place to complain folks! (I guess?)

I think, as with general in war, masters should be allowed first dibs, but it shouldn't hold back non-masters, should they want to be a boss too... seems like current system is fine imo
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Re: 11th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64311.msg1261628#msg1261628
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2017, 08:27:23 pm »
How much interest is there in a General Discussion thread? We'll add one if it looks like it will see some use.

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Re: 11th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64311.msg1261629#msg1261629
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2017, 08:32:35 pm »
How much interest is there in a General Discussion thread? We'll add one if it looks like it will see some use.

I think with so many subplots in trials it could be a good place for centralised banter and discussion
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Re: 11th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64311.msg1261630#msg1261630
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2017, 08:34:33 pm »
How much interest is there in a General Discussion thread? We'll add one if it looks like it will see some use.
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Re: 11th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64311.msg1261639#msg1261639
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2017, 12:38:28 am »
Something I would like to suggest is for brawl bonus to be adjusted.

Bosses do not deserve more points than members. I refuse to gain extra points for no reason. Hell Jenkar and kaempfer deserve those extra points much more than I do.
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Re: 11th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64311.msg1261640#msg1261640
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2017, 12:43:03 am »
How much interest is there in a General Discussion thread? We'll add one if it looks like it will see some use.

I think with so many subplots in trials it could be a good place for centralised banter and discussion

Seconded.
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Re: 11th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64311.msg1262237#msg1262237
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There's 30 hours left to sign up and we only know 4 defending masters. On occasion, people sign up based on the chance to play a specific defending master (for example, I got criticized for backing out of last trials) so in my opinion this uncertainty takes some of the fun out. In the future, I think masters should have to declare defense at least a couple days before the challenger signups are over.
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Re: 11th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64311.msg1262249#msg1262249
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2017, 06:12:21 pm »
There's 30 hours left to sign up and we only know 4 defending masters. On occasion, people sign up based on the chance to play a specific defending master (for example, I got criticized for backing out of last trials) so in my opinion this uncertainty takes some of the fun out. In the future, I think masters should have to declare defense at least a couple days before the challenger signups are over.
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