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Who would be the best Master of Water?

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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44404.msg1011737#msg1011737
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2012, 01:28:19 am »
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Currently this isn't really built around Tridents, and only 1 of my 3 wins in Phase 2 with it was due to it (amazing BB draws in the other two), but it can be modded for a chance at at an earlier Trident. Using control to nullify the creatures that do come out before Trident is a very effective way to use it, especially considering BB, one of the strongest CC cards in the game, fits neatly into the duo.
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44404.msg1011739#msg1011739
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2012, 01:30:58 am »
People constantly say that water is the most fluid element that ties everything together. I do not feel this way. Can you convince me?

Should blue crawler be changed in any way?


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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44404.msg1011762#msg1011762
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2012, 02:30:27 am »
Are there elements you do not like, majofa?
I don't know lol


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Create what do you think is the best way to build a deck around tridents (upped or not).
Are you gonna copy it if you become Earth Master?
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People constantly say that water is the most fluid element that ties everything together. I do not feel this way. Can you convince me?

Should blue crawler be changed in any way?
Water is fluid... in this game... I don't think so... but it does 'seep' into other elements.

Blue Crawler probably needs a buff, but maybe just a passive that gives it a buff when it's in a flooded area. That way it keeps its 3 attack and vanilla status.

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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44404.msg1011767#msg1011767
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2012, 02:38:40 am »

Create what do you think is the best way to build a deck around tridents (upped or not).

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Haha, nope I already have some trident decks to make If I decide to, but I still want to know if you see the chemistry between trident and earth as I do.
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44404.msg1011770#msg1011770
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2012, 02:55:11 am »
Yep, just like Toadfish with :air, Chrysaora with :death, Mind Flayer with :aether, and Steam Machine with :fire   :P

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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44404.msg1011797#msg1011797
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2012, 07:08:12 am »
Water has the most forms of cc in the game.  If you had to remove one of these cc cards, which would it be? And what would you replace it with?

As majofa pointed out, water has a lot of explicit synergies.  Build a deck using implicit synergy.  (Not a  :death :air :aether :fire or  :earth deck)
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44404.msg1011833#msg1011833
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2012, 01:22:37 pm »
Water has the most forms of cc in the game.  If you had to remove one of these cc cards, which would it be? And what would you replace it with?

As majofa pointed out, water has a lot of explicit synergies.  Build a deck using implicit synergy.  (Not a  :death :air :aether :fire or  :earth deck)
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44404.msg1011845#msg1011845
« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2012, 03:24:14 pm »
furball: Water should be, and to an extent is, fluidity. All living things have water in them, most environments have water in them, and water is made from the most common chemical substance in the universe, so it's natural that water should have direct synergy with many other elements.

I think Blue Crawler deserves either a moderate raise in HP or a slight raise in both attack and HP. The latter dismantles a synergy with adrenaline, but that isn't prevalent in most metagame, so I think that an attack buff is still best for the card in general.



Laxa: I would remove freeze.  While it can be a good card, it is generally overshadowed by most other CC, especially BB. I would replace it with a card that freezes permanents, instead. PC, even only temporary would be a huge boost to water as an element, enough that it would balance the loss of Freeze. Water would still have Arctic Squid, Ice Bolt, and multiple duo synergies built around CC.

As for a deck with implict synergy, I don't really need to build one :3. Both Flowing Reflection and an unupped variant I used in Phase 2, Cascade, utilize it's many duo synergies to form a strong, pseudo-rainbow with no more than four elements.
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44404.msg1011853#msg1011853
« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2012, 04:07:14 pm »
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44404.msg1011939#msg1011939
« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2012, 11:05:27 pm »
Water has the most forms of cc in the game.  If you had to remove one of these cc cards, which would it be? And what would you replace it with?

Freeze is underused and for good reason, for the most part stopping one creature for 3 turns just isn't worth it.

However, the one I might change would be Mind Flayer... how about he can cause the opponent Amnesia as well? Yes, negate their weapon ability! That would be fun.

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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44404.msg1011964#msg1011964
« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2012, 12:46:14 am »
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44404.msg1012045#msg1012045
« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2012, 10:37:53 am »
Same question for evey candidate:

What deck archetype do you see as the biggest "problem deck" for water in war?
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