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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20052.msg254599#msg254599
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2011, 10:38:18 pm »
Many people see Water for only its fantastic shield. How would you prove to them that Water has alot of other good cards?
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12916.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12916.0.html)

This deck can defeat Fire Stall in most cases.
No Permafrost Shield.
Just creatures.
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20052.msg254706#msg254706
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2011, 12:26:57 am »
Disclaimer: Not answering this question will probably result in me not giving a vote to you, regardless of your standing.


*sigh* I also wished I conjured a nicer question (similar to the last questions for Water), but unfortunately I couldn't really come up with anything, so I hope you don't mind this one. :(


Q: Despite being the ‘last-place’ element in the war, you guys did a great job. However, it appears that there was a decent amount of chaos with people dropping out and promotions (for unfortunate reasons (Essence) and also unverified ones (*cough*) as well). If you were on Team Water for the War, or took a look at the War #2 archives, what do you think was the number one reason why Team Water finished the way they did? If you can’t single out a reason, list multiple reasons out instead.

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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20052.msg254777#msg254777
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2011, 01:49:51 am »
It is one thing to know thyself.  It is another to know thy enemy.
What is Fire?
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20052.msg254979#msg254979
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2011, 07:13:20 am »
Disclaimer: Not answering this question will probably result in me not giving a vote to you, regardless of your standing.


*sigh* I also wished I conjured a nicer question (similar to the last questions for Water), but unfortunately I couldn't really come up with anything, so I hope you don't mind this one. :(


Q: Despite being the ‘last-place’ element in the war, you guys did a great job. However, it appears that there was a decent amount of chaos with people dropping out and promotions (for unfortunate reasons (Essence) and also unverified ones (*cough*) as well). If you were on Team Water for the War, or took a look at the War #2 archives, what do you think was the number one reason why Team Water finished the way they did? If you can’t single out a reason, list multiple reasons out instead.
Bad RNG luck. We had some bad RNG luck in some games, (see Smuglapse vs RavingRabbid, where only a Discord on drugs could have won them the game). Also, poor "future" deckbuilding". We based our discards only on the following round, while we should have kept some more thing in account for future matches. Also, we were quanta starvated. In almost every round, we had to get some water pillars/pendulums for converting.
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20052.msg254982#msg254982
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2011, 07:24:19 am »
It is one thing to know thyself.  It is another to know thy enemy.
What is Fire?
Whoa, tough question.

Again, I'll think as Element Fire, and not "Visible Chemical Reaction."

Fire is one of the hardest element to fight, and also one of the most favorited.
But Fire has something in common with Water. It's about dominating your opponent.

I hope this question wasn't poorly answered for you, in case, tell me so and I'll reanswer it, but I'm in a hurry.
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20052.msg254986#msg254986
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2011, 07:28:12 am »
It is one thing to know thyself.  It is another to know thy enemy.
What is Fire?
Whoa, tough question.

Again, I'll think as Element Fire, and not "Visible Chemical Reaction."

Fire is one of the hardest element to fight, and also one of the most favorited.
But Fire has something in common with Water. It's about dominating your opponent.

I hope this question wasn't poorly answered for you, in case, tell me so and I'll reanswer it, but I'm in a hurry.
Yeah this answer was not complete. (It is the Element Fire). Give your answer about 75% of the effort answering what is the Element Water.
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20052.msg255003#msg255003
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2011, 08:35:13 am »
What is Water's flavour?

(Answer as creatively as possible.)
WAR X - TEAM :air AIR

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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20052.msg255009#msg255009
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2011, 09:06:09 am »
If there is one nationality on earth that knows how to live with water, it's the Dutch ;)

You got my vote!

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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20052.msg255015#msg255015
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2011, 09:16:18 am »
I'm nilsieboy,
I'm a great fan of water and I've been a long time with this community now.
I have enough time as a master (some hours a day) and I'd love to help the community with it. A lot of new players think: Water is the 'weakest element'. I know water isn't. I have a lot of experience with water from the last final battles, General from team water and a lot of other events.
This war, water's start wasn't great. We had fast quanta problems, we missed important decks and didn't prepare enough. I wanna show next war that water CAN do better, I wanna change the vision of water is the 'weakest element' for a lot of players and I think I'm a good candidate for it ;). I wanna show the true power of water so I ask you guys here to help me with it, I won't dissepoint you as master.
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20052.msg255067#msg255067
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2011, 11:06:46 am »
It is one thing to know thyself.  It is another to know thy enemy.
What is Fire?
Fire is evil.
Fire is destruction.
I don't really know what Fire is, I don't really care about it.
Fire is the "rushiest" element and, at the same time, the one with the best stall.
That's why facing Fire is hard. Will they stall, rush or both?


What is Water's flavour?

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Water tastes like victory.
And smells like Teen Spirit.
Also, Hot Chocolate. Water tastes a lot like Hot Chocolate.
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20052.msg255070#msg255070
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2011, 11:09:07 am »
I'm going to take this in a bit different direction than most and ask you a little about deckbuilding.

What (war legal) decks would you build to defeat these two decks?

The decks should be all unupped and preferably not involve and nymphs as you don't know who will have to face down the decks.

Also, though the decks should be targeted counters, they shouldn't fall apart against other decks.

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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20052.msg255075#msg255075
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2011, 11:21:38 am »
This is for the first deck.

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This is for the second.

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