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Who would be the best Master of Water

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Voting closed: July 01, 2013, 10:36:25 pm

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7th Trials - Phase 3 Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50070.msg1082684#msg1082684
« on: June 24, 2013, 10:36:00 pm »
Phase 3 - Community Vote

Phase ends when above poll expires.

It's time to vote for your favorite Master candidate!  Every community member has one vote. You can change your vote at any time as long as there is still time on the clock.

Vote based on who you think would make the best Master of that element. Do not vote based on who is the best player or who you know personally. Try to pick someone who you think would help the community the most.  Feel free to ask the candidates difficult questions to help you make your decision.

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Re: 7th Trials - Phase 3 Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50070.msg1082710#msg1082710
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2013, 11:45:13 pm »
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Spoiler for Questions from this thread:
ddevans: Of the three of you here, you're the only one without a previous Master-ship of water. What makes you the best possible candidate in regard to this matter?

I am experienced in and love Water, am very active, and have the knowledge to run both a War team and Brawl effectively. I believe that is enough to qualify me as a potentially great master.

Water is known to be very simple (It is essentially H2O) but yet very complex (each snowflake that water forms is always different). Explain how does this intrinsic nature of water apply to you and how it feels to be able to be the master over this substance.

I can be either straightforward or complex, or even both, depending on the topic at hand and my state of mind. This is easily line with the comparison of water's simple molecular structure vs the unique crystallization of ice.

To be able to control this feels like I could control some small part of myself.

To all  :water trialists:
Why does water have a higher density than ice, while most other material have higher density in solid (frozen) form than in liquid form ?

Hydrogen bonds form a majority of the forces connecting water molecules, which causes the molecules to become less compact in ice. Or something related to that.

As we all know, when combined, oxygen and hydrogen and a spark go kaboom and produce water.
Make a deck that illustrates that statement. It must be "playable" (ie no cards you can't pay for, for example).

Raving beat me to the exact concept I would have used, and I could not think of a more fitting concept that exactly matches your request. Sorry D:

Spoiler for Questions from General Thread:
@all contestants : do you consider yourself the best possible master for your element? If so, why. If not, who is in your eye, and why?

(separate question) Name one song that represents your element in your eye.

There are only a few people in any given element who have the proper mix of passion and loyalty for their element, potential activity, and experience to be the best possible Master for their element. Raving, Tiko, and myself are the three members of the community who best meet these ideals for Water. I

I do believe I would be an excellent Master, or I would not be here. Whether I would be better or worse than either Raving or Tiko has in the past, or may be in the future, is indeterminate, but there is certainly a possibility I could be the best possible Master for Water.

As for a song, it would have to be this. Light, upbeat, and beautiful trance that flows up and down, like the waves of the ocean themselves.

I agree.

Time to get these question out of the way:

Do you plan to general your element for war?
If nothing changes, do you plan to attempt to lead your element in brawl?

I will definitely and unwaveringly be War General if I win Trials. War is what led me to become active on these forums, and it will always hold a special place in my heart, in some form or another.

Brawl is more unclear for me, and I think it has a lot of work before it can meet it's full potential, but I would likely be Brawl Commander as well, for a relatively new experience. I feel like Brawl has untapped potential and I would enjoy seeing it reached.

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What is your favorite deck, including your element, and for what reason has this deck become
so important to you?

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The very first mod of what I would consider my signature deck. I have made several variations of it, including variants based on different cards, marks, and playstyles, but this is still my personal favorite :3

To all:
Describe your plan for coordinating efforts among your War team across global time zones.

Edit:  I left a word.

I intend to gain for myself an active team, and effectively utilize means of communication that don't require everyone being on at the same time. So basically forums, but whiteboards are another example of this.

Let's make them throw some mud,

@All trialers with 3 or more people in their trials element: Which of your competitors deserves the Master title the least?


*makes some popcorn and sits back*

I'm not the kind of person who wishes to defame a competitor like that, especially not ones as excellent as Raving and Tiko. Sorry.

Augh, I was going to ask [Chapuz's question] in a more convoluted way.  Oh well.

To all Trial participants in elements that have two participants and/or do not have a defending Master.  Do you think your chances at Master-ship have changed if you were in a full element with a defending Master?

Of course. A defending master means only one challenger passes through instead of two, thus making the battle phase so much more critical.

To all Trialists:

Would you rather have a master well-versed in the forum only or well-versed in Elements the Game only?
Explain.

Despite the wording of this question, I'm going to say neither, because I feel a Master should be well-versed in both, and both of them are incomplete without the other. I don't feel comfortable choosing one over the other. Sorry D:

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Keep calm and trill.

To all Trialists:

How and where are you connected to the Element you are trialing for outside of Elements the Game?

My body contains water. I use water for health and cleanliness. I give my plants and pets water. I live close to water.

Water is everywhere. I just don't take it for granted :3

@All Trialists/defending masters:

If your first choice element was full, would you switch to another element? If yes, what element and why. If no, why?

If for some reason I couldn't join Water, I would only remotely consider joining Death and Aether, just because I enjoy the experience of Trials. In these trials, I would have joined neither - Death because it was already full and my post count may be enough to knock someone out, and Aether because a deuce-hain final battle interested me considerably.

To everyone:

Design a card that is more or less balanced using typical balance formulae, yet would increase your element's power significantly. In other words, identify where your element is weak and design a card to remedy this.

Water suffers from its lack of PC more than any element, although Light is up there as well. Water could be given, for example, a Frost Ray that freezes a permanent for 4 turns, and costing 2 | 1, to be balanced with Freeze, Deflag, and their upped versions.

Alternatively, this can be shifted up to a longer and different duration, in exchange for a high cost.

You are to ask yourself a question you can't answer. What do you ask yourself?

Note, saying "Is this question an acceptable answer to itself?" is not an acceptable answer to this question.

Could Neptune make a ball of ice so big, even he couldn't lift it?

To all Trialists:

Reveal to the voters your current maximum lift on the bench press.

*Edit:  added a word. :)

I have no idea, but it's certainly below average for my age and size. I've always been more of a mental person.

This time I'm having some trouble deciding on who to vote for in some of the elements, so I'm tossing the coin.

I don't know many of you trialists personally, and I don't have the necessary chat-time to actually get to know you better - I can look up both your ingame and forum "qualities" (which I did), furthermore, awards and staff positions aren't that impressive to me in case of mastership: So please, tell me about yourself, the person behind that avatar and hundreds of (well-planned) posts and quotes.

You're free whatever to answer, it may or may not be a deciding factor. Thanks.

I'm a 16-year old from suburban Colorado. I'll be a senior when school begins in the fall, and I intend to go to a school for culinary arts afterwards. My passions include the previously implied food, learning, music, flash gaming, and sports, but I have a large amount of things that I do for free time when I'm in the mood for them.

I wear glasses over steel blue eyes, and my hair is brown and swept to the left. My preferred outfit is a subtlely logo'ed shirt with either khakis or jeans. I'm small and unmuscular for my age, and as such I prefer using my brain for anything, helping a group of myself and four other people to place fifth in the state in a middle school trivia contest.

I have ADHD-C, and so I'm generally hyper and inattentive, and take medication to calm me down and focus me in the morning, and shut my brain down at night. I also go through short stretches of depression as a result of this, occasionally very severe. Otherwise, I am an upbeat and cheery person, with a slightly odd sense of humor and social behavior.

I live with both parents, an British Shorthair who has remained unnamed since we realized he was a male, a Pekingese-Chihuahua mix called Pikachu because of her breed, and a Aussie-Redbone mix called Rosie for her fur color. Rosie could eat the other two and still have room for some dog treats, if you want a size comparison, but she's too gentle for that :3
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Re: 7th Trials - Phase 3 Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50070.msg1082806#msg1082806
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2013, 04:25:24 am »
ddevans: Of the three of you here, you're the only one without a previous Master-ship of water. What makes you the best possible candidate in regard to this matter?

Tiko: It could be said that your activity has been low (posting-wise, not lurking) for a while.
Would you agree? If so, how will this change should you become master, and why should I think it will change? If not, why do you disagree, and how will your activity change should you become master?

RavingR: Would I be uncovering a secret if I mentioned your liking to win odd trials?
More seriously, evaluate your master-ship for both the 3rd and 5th trials. Be sure to explain how you think you did well, not well, how you can improve, what you should keep the same, etc...
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Re: 7th Trials - Phase 3 Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50070.msg1082838#msg1082838
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2013, 06:56:59 am »
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More seriously, evaluate your master-ship for both the 3rd and 5th trials. Be sure to explain how you think you did well, not well, how you can improve, what you should keep the same, etc...

This implies this isn't part of a bigger scheme, where I will become master foreeever.
Now, to answer the real part of the question. The 3rd Trials was my first mastership term, and it mostly was a process of trial and error. I assembled an excellent war team, and we kept #2 until connection problem and event cards. I also started promoting a more competitive use of water using a Mono-Water stall in CL (and it worked).
5th Term, heh. I don't remember doing anything particular. I actually don't remember anything, which is weird.
In the end, I liked my 3rd term better. Let's see if I can like this one more.

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Do you consider yourself the best possible master for your element? If so, why. If not, who is in your eye, and why?
Why wouldn't I be? I have activity, passion, experience and some damn fine 7 marks of water.

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Do you plan to general your element for war?
If nothing changes, do you plan to attempt to lead your element in brawl?
Yes at first.
No at second. I want a change in the scoring system and these things. Making things is fun, but seriously, I find the voting process horrible. This may change, y'know, I didn't think I was going to lead in Brawl #1, too.

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What is your favorite deck, including your element, and for what reason has this deck become so important to you?
Firestall! I can't think of a favorite deck, but I were to say one on the spot I'd say my Mono-Water stall. (I won a CL and giggles).

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Describe your plan for coordinating efforts among your War team across global time zones.
Clone myself 6 times. No more team-mates, no more timezone problems. All part of the criminal scheme to keep me master forever.

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@All trialers with 3 or more people in their trials element: Which of your competitors deserves the Master title the least?
Plini. He didn't bother competing basically.

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To all Trial participants in elements that have two participants and/or do not have a defending Master.  Do you think your chances at Master-ship have changed if you were in a full element with a defending Master?
Chances at what? At winning? At getting final? Chances? I didn't enter these trials to get some experience. I entered these trials to kick ass and chew master titles. And I'm all out of ass.

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Would you rather have a master well-versed in the forum only or well-versed in Elements the Game only? Explain.
A master well-versed in the forum only would not become a master. Thus a master well-versed in the forum only is the only right choice, because he must definitely be well-versed in the game too, if he wants to become master.

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Re: 7th Trials - Phase 3 Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50070.msg1083046#msg1083046
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2013, 01:04:26 pm »
As we all know, when combined, oxygen and hydrogen and a spark go kaboom and produce water.
Make a deck that illustrates that statement. It must be "playable" (ie no cards you can't pay for, for example).
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Re: 7th Trials - Phase 3 Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50070.msg1083053#msg1083053
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2013, 01:19:19 pm »
As we all know, when combined, oxygen and hydrogen and a spark go kaboom and produce water.
Make a deck that illustrates that statement. It must be "playable" (ie no cards you can't pay for, for example).
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First, bottle some Oxygen. Bottling oxygen is a good thing. To make oxygen, use some creatures. Where do creatures produce Oxygen? I don't know. I don't care. I don't want to know. Build up some hydrogen, too.

Take a firefly and light it on fire. Meanwhile, Suck your creatures dry, and open the bottles. Ah, the fresh smell of exploding gasses and molecular bonds forming.

And then finish your opponent with Ice Lances. Everybody loves being dropped some ice lances in the face.

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Here, water is produced after making Oxygen go kaboom, which makes more sense question-wise.

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Re: 7th Trials - Phase 3 Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50070.msg1083068#msg1083068
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2013, 01:58:43 pm »
Water is known to be very simple (It is essentially H2O) but yet very complex (each snowflake that water forms is always different). Explain how does this intrinsic nature of water apply to you and how it feels to be able to be the master over this substance.
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Re: 7th Trials - Phase 3 Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50070.msg1083112#msg1083112
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Water is known to be very simple (It is essentially H2O) but yet very complex (each snowflake that water forms is always different). Explain how does this intrinsic nature of water apply to you and how it feels to be able to be the master over this substance.
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Re: 7th Trials - Phase 3 Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50070.msg1083222#msg1083222
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2013, 10:20:37 am »
Hello.

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It could be said that your activity has been low (posting-wise, not lurking) for a while.
Would you agree? If so, how will this change should you become master, and why should I think it will change? If not, why do you disagree, and how will your activity change should you become master?

Well, can't really say. While I do have a daytime job that leaves little room for playing/internet, I never really was much of a power-poster as I've barely became a Sr. Member after more than 3yrs; but I'm always around, even if just lurking :]

If I'd become a Master again, I'm sure I'd "stand out" a bit more, because the title has its own limited responsibilities; yet I doubt I'd enter another War soon as General. Not because of my curse with ISPs in the area, but rather because of the current ruleset and its confrontations with the present elemental-balance. I may reconsider if War gets an overhaul.

The same goes for Brawl. I'm not much of a fan of it.

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As we all know, when combined, oxygen and hydrogen and a spark go kaboom and produce water.
Make a deck that illustrates that statement. It must be "playable" (ie no cards you can't pay for, for example).

The possibilities to approach this request thematically are quite 'limited' in terms of cardbase and it has already been done before me; so if you don't mind, I'll pass.

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Water is known to be very simple (It is essentially H2O) but yet very complex (each snowflake that water forms is always different). Explain how does this intrinsic nature of water apply to you and how it feels to be able to be the master over this substance.

While general wisdom is always welcome amongst the lines of trialists, this time I have none at hand that wasn't said before here, or in previous trials. But all I can say is, that even when I held my Master of Water title, I was still easily trashed by passing blizzards if I went outside my room. Never forget it's only a game.

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Why does water have a higher density than ice, while most other material have higher density in solid (frozen) form than in liquid form ?

Because Water is special like that.

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do you consider yourself the best possible master for your element? If so, why. If not, who is in your eye, and why?

Yes, of course. I wouldn't be here most of the time if I would not. But it turns out that Trials is slowly becoming nothing more than a simple tournament with complex rules, and it happens that my preparations this time were somewhat negligent. Though I guess that could make this Trials an exception.

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Name one song that represents your element in your eye.

(Warning! Lacking in live instruments.)

I've already answered this exact same question last time (or the one before?) and I vouch for the same song. But I have a recent favorite here which illustrates the effects of Water very well, when one tries to penetrate its world.

SoulQuark - Nitrogen Narcosis (wiki)

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Do you plan to general your element for war?
If nothing changes, do you plan to attempt to lead your element in brawl?

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..yet I doubt I'd enter another War soon as General. Not because of my curse with ISPs in the area, but rather because of the current ruleset and its confrontations with the present elemental-balance. I may reconsider if War gets a complete overhaul.

The same goes for Brawl. I'm not much of a fan of it.

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What is your favorite deck, including your element, and for what reason has this deck become
so important to you?

If one would look up previous Trials' topics, he'd notice that each term my answer varies. There is no favorite, just currently more preferred.

But if I had to choose overall, I'd say this is the one that 'haunts' me from since the beginning, and yet it remains as powerful as enjoyable in every version of Elements:

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Nothing fancy, but I love it.

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Describe your plan for coordinating efforts among your War team across global time zones.

None yet, sorry. Reasons somewhere above.

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@All trialers with 3 or more people in their trials element: Which of your competitors deserves the Master title the least?

If anything, in general I find your question rude. A very faint effort for generating pointless hard feelings. Shame on you.

But to answer you question: My mind was really off from Elements lately, which I proved with placing last without question during Phase II in my element. I've joined Trials with the expectation of a bit more "diversified creative progress" in tasks, yet there was only a tourny to be won - which happened to be more complicated than I gave attention to it. I guess that makes myself the least qualified contender currently.

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Do you think your chances at Master-ship have changed if you were in a full element with a defending Master?

No. Not at all.

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Would you rather have a master well-versed in the forum only or well-versed in Elements the Game only?
Explain.

Naturally, I'd expect both. But if a choice had to be made I'd prefer the latter. Even the Forums are about the game, no?

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How and where are you connected to the Element you are trialing for outside of Elements the Game?

Self-explanatory.

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If your first choice element was full, would you switch to another element? If yes, what element and why. If no, why?

No. I've been playing with Water exclusively for some years now, and I'm still enjoying its possibilities ever since. I don't feel the need to prove anything to anyone; and not only that I'd belie myself with a choice like that, even if I'd win, it'd be nothing but underwitted bragging.

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Design a card that is more or less balanced using typical balance formulae, yet would increase your element's power significantly. In other words, identify where your element is weak and design a card to remedy this.

I guess I've already done something like that. But if that doesn't qualify: ideas need time to shape, especially if they want to be fitted into a pattern with its own set of rules. In other words: I'm refusing spontaneous card design.

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You are to ask yourself a question you can't answer. What do you ask yourself?

- What the hell am I doing here..?!

« Last Edit: June 29, 2013, 06:38:22 am by Tiko »
:water   "..It is in this domain that the living suffer great extremes, it is here that the water-failures, driven to desperation, make start in a new element.
It is here that strange compromises are made and new senses are born."

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Re: 7th Trials - Phase 3 Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50070.msg1083275#msg1083275
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2013, 05:32:39 pm »
To all  :water trialists:
Why does water have a higher density than ice, while most other material have higher density in solid (frozen) form than in liquid form ?

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Re: 7th Trials - Phase 3 Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50070.msg1083276#msg1083276
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2013, 05:39:54 pm »
To all  :water trialists:
Why does water have a higher density than ice, while most other material have higher density in solid (frozen) form than in liquid form ?
Some thing about spatial placement and molecular bonds.

Or, water molecules like to hug each other when they're closer, so they're warmer and they melt.
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Re: 7th Trials - Phase 3 Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50070.msg1084276#msg1084276
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2013, 11:25:45 pm »
Thank you to everyone who voted for me <3 Consolations to Tiko though - he deserves way more votes than this.

Now then, Raving...let the best water elemental win :3
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