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Who is most worthy to be the next Master of Water?

JonathanCrazyJ
30 (71.4%)
Spielkind
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None Worthy
1 (2.4%)

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Voting closed: May 02, 2017, 07:07:15 pm

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11th Trials - Phase 3: Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64517.msg1263204#msg1263204
« on: April 27, 2017, 07:07:15 pm »
Phase 3 - Community Vote

It's time to vote for your favorite Master candidate!  Every community member may vote on as many of the candidates as he wishes. You can change your vote(s) at any time as long as there is still time on the clock.

Vote based on who you think would make the best Master of that element. Do not vote based on who is the best player or who you know personally. Try to pick someone who you think would help the community the most as THE representative for their element.  If you believe none of the Trialists should be Master, please select the "None Worthy" option. 

To help you make the best decision possible, feel free to ask the candidates questions.  Both challengers and defending Masters ought to answer the questions in this thread (and in the General questions thread) to help the voters make the best possible choice.  Please put all your answers in a single post (employing spoiler tags is recommended).  Also, challengers should include in that post a link to your Phase 1 submission post.


Questions and answers may begin now that this topic is posted.
Voting will begin when the polls are up at the official start of Phase 3.
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Re: 11th Trials - Phase 3: Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64517.msg1263220#msg1263220
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2017, 07:31:53 pm »
to pie : JCJ i believe was the best master of this last cycle, do you think you can make a better master than him, and why?
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Re: 11th Trials - Phase 3: Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64517.msg1263231#msg1263231
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2017, 08:40:53 pm »
Spoiler for ji412jo:
to pie : JCJ i believe was the best master of this last cycle, do you think you can make a better master than him, and why?

Of course i cant be better than jcj without having jcj on my side... in war i think i saw sometimes what he is missing and im better in those things, he is better in other things, so together we are awesome.  8-)
But since jcj is getting in trouble witj alcohol, we should end this nightmare ;D

Spoiler for ddevans96:
Only finished third in war, none worthy

Better than 9, i guess...  8-) But you know better, dont cheering for that lame  :death you could give  :water a better place.  :-X

Spoiler for Physsion:
JCJ, your team had a fantastic showing last War, under your leadership as General - we've talked about this briefly in chat, but do you think Water is capable of doing even better? Do you think there are still innovations to be made that could overcome your element's weaknesses, and let it reach first place?

Spielkind, I'd like to hear your thoughts on it, too. Without revealing any secrets before War #11 begins, what could team Water do differently to do even better than last time?

Sometimes you need some people to assume control! Without talking too much, i guess a master can grant better outcome with a more direct way of leading, not giving everything and everything a shot. Focus is the key. Sometimes you need to take a rabbit out of the hat... but not everytime.  8-) Ahh well, and im not drunk that often, obviously.  :P

Spoiler for ValerianFlame:
To Spiel: How was it hosting the beautiful submission-hoard of "Kneel or Drown, Let's Still Have Fun"?

To Both trialists: Water is all around us, but even then, do you feel the process of even owning clean water is a blessing?

1. Thanks for your "beautiful". :) I realy liked it and was glad so many participated there! Im not sure but hope i can give it some more spirit, after the first days i got not much time in finding tasks so hope, we can still have this topic fluid, cause dont will let this going inactive!  8-)
2. Of course its a blessing to have access to everything in the world... but this question is not fair to get into water only, its a question for every element in the world and every element has to be free for every living being! So lets give all to everyone! Sounds like a miss-germany speach, but i mean it! ;D

Spoiler for Aves:
Water Trials currently has the most spirit of any element. Quantify, depict, challenge, or affirm your superiority in this regard.

I learned in W10 that devtal is a water deck. Specifically, a water deck that can beat devtal. What are some other "water" decks that can beat themselves?

Im so sorry, but i only can say, thx for this! You will see next war! Promised! :)


Spoiler for For all elements.:
Spoiler for kaempfer13:
@ all, but especially the ones who will face STANDIN: Can you build a team that you can lead to victory? I believe this will have the following aspects: Can you yourselves build good decks to beat your opponents? Can you predict and counter them with your element? Can you draft a Team that is a capable of doing that whenever you cant? Will you be able to inspire your teammates to do all in their power to fight for the win in every game? Can you infect others with your enthusiasm for your element (if you have any in the first place)? And most importantly: Will you put the necessary time investment in all those things?

Yes, and no! No, cause i have not that much time, but i will build a team that can win, so there will be enough to fill that spot in.  8-)

Spoiler for DoubleCapitals:
@All: What does being a Master mean? What kind of traits will you exemplify as a Master?

@All: Pick a character, real or fictional, to personify yourself. Justify your answer.

@Trialists who have previously competed in a different element: A wise woman once asked for this specific category of people to tell them, so she knows who not to vote for. (Well, actually she asked if you're trialling for your favourite element, but eh, it's a similar category. While I might not be as drastic as her, loyalty is an important aspect of being a Master for me. Why should we see you as a representative as the element you have chosen, rather than any others, that you have trialled for prior?

1. You have to form a goal and lead for some crazy players. Guess Leadship is the most, but always be fun and stuff.  8-)
2. Donald Trump: Water first!

Spoiler for CleanOnion:
@all Please take a photo of something you dislike.

Spoiler for Hidden:

Spoiler for Zawadx:
Some great questions from before:

What does your element represent and mean to you outside of the gameplay? What has it done for you, and what would you do for it as a Master?

@All : Analyse your performance in trials so far (both phases) in a critical manner. Where did you go right? Where did you go wrong? What would you change if you could? You have 4 hours. (if someone wants me to answer this, pm)

Also, if you were made a Trials Overseer this trials, what would you have done differently?

On that note, do you wish to ever become Trials Overseer?

Higs: Good question. Its a fluid relationship, sometimes you are up, sometimes down the waves, but it never spit you out. Me learned much for pvp playing water, cause water isnt a no-brainer as aether or air is.  8-) Wanna give that back, giving my experience to new player and so to give water more lovers.  ;D

Jenks: Ah... did well, everything done as expected. Next time i will not spend so much time in trials. What goes wrong was not playing more luck-consistent decks. 8-)

Zawa: Would give some more transparent in my work, so all TROS will know each others descisions. No, will never do this much of work... good you do it.  8-)

Spoiler for Basman-1453:
For everyone that Trials for their favourite element:
  • What is your second favourite element?
  • If you end up not becoming a Master for your favourite element, will you consider an approach from WMs to General your second-fave/third-fave/what-have-you element? (Quite unlikely, but hey :silly:)
    For the sake of argument, assume that you are not a WM yourself, just in case you're thinking 'I'm a WM, there's no way the WMs will approach me to Gen'.

For everyone that Trials not for their favourite element:
  • What is your favourite element?
  • If you end up not becoming a Master for the element you're Trialling in, will you consider an approach from WMs to General your favourite element? (Quite unlikely, but hey :silly:)
    For the sake of argument, assume that you are not a WM yourself, just in case you're thinking 'I'm a WM, there's no way the WMs will approach me to Gen'.

Earth, Light and Entropy do well on place 2-4 (love them all)... and NO! Will not. :)

Spoiler for Zyardran:
What's your reason for joining the element you're trilling for?
If you become master, what are your plans in war and brawl?

I dont want to let water without a master and knowing JCJ is to drunk to fight a STANDIN and loose i needed to trial!  ;D
Brwaht? No idea, never spend time on this.  :P
War? Guess my plans are reigning the game, so winning of course!  8-)
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Re: 11th Trials - Phase 3: Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64517.msg1263232#msg1263232
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Re: 11th Trials - Phase 3: Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64517.msg1263262#msg1263262
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2017, 06:09:55 am »
JCJ, your team had a fantastic showing last War, under your leadership as General - we've talked about this briefly in chat, but do you think Water is capable of doing even better? Do you think there are still innovations to be made that could overcome your element's weaknesses, and let it reach first place?

Spielkind, I'd like to hear your thoughts on it, too. Without revealing any secrets before War #11 begins, what could team Water do differently to do even better than last time?

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Re: 11th Trials - Phase 3: Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64517.msg1263284#msg1263284
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2017, 05:15:11 pm »
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Spoiler for kaempfer13:
@ all, but especially the ones who will face STANDIN:

a) Can you build a team that you can lead to victory? I believe this will have the following aspects:

b) Can you yourselves build good decks to beat your opponents? Can you predict and counter them with your element?

c) Can you draft a Team that is a capable of doing that whenever you cant?

d) Will you be able to inspire your teammates to do all in their power to fight for the win in every game?

e) Can you infect others with your enthusiasm for your element (if you have any in the first place)?

f) And most importantly: Will you put the necessary time investment in all those things?

So many questions. I altered the format of your post to aid reading

a) I have already built two Brawl teams that I have lead to victory, and a War team who achieved a higher finish than any in water's history. I think team building is one of my strongest talents. It needs experience, activity, personality and sportsmanship, with a healthy mix of competitiveness.

b) I have created several decks myself which have not only found a niche in Water meta, but that have actually been used by other elements or people in other metas. Shipwrecker was stolen by Earth. The Mariana Trench model has been adapted by other elements too. Those, and many of our other decks that I built were designed to specifically counter our opponents, as all good deckbuilding should.

c) I know my faults, and i know the faults of my element. In team-building I try to recruit people who would compliment my own talents. My recent War team was pretty perfect in the respect of balance and complimentary assets,and we excelled because of that.

d) I think everyone on Team Water last war could attest that I strove and succeeded to create a happy, exciting and mutually respectful team dynamic. Manuel found he disliked elements PvP too much, but out team dynamic was good enough that he was very respectful and apologetic telling us he didn't want to continue competing, and if anything, his departure made us want to strive even harder, and work even closer together.

e)I predict more people than ever will put water as one of their favorites for this coming war if I am Master. Not because of me directly, but because our decks were innovative, fun and interesting. People will want to be a part of that.

f) Provided War begins after my honeymoon finishes, which it is almost certain to, absolutely I have the time.


Spoiler for DoubleCapitals:
@All: What does being a Master mean? What kind of traits will you exemplify as a Master?

@All: Pick a character, real or fictional, to personify yourself. Justify your answer.

a) To me, a Master is not just a PvP title. Yes, PvP is the most important part of mastership, as the world of elements does seem to like a War every now and again, so having a pacifist leader would be naive. However, other things are important too. You should create an aura, a personality for your element, and encourage people to think about your element with excitement and interest. Creativity is a great asset too. Although I don't blame masters who don't like to Brawl, each to their own, I personally relish putting my element's touch on the creative processes in that wonderful event.

b)

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Spoiler for CleanOnion:
@all Please take a photo of something you dislike.




Spoiler for Zawadx:

Some great questions from before:

What does your element represent and mean to you outside of the gameplay? What has it done for you, and what would you do for it as a Master?

@All : Analyse your performance in trials so far (both phases) in a critical manner. Where did you go right? Where did you go wrong? What would you change if you could? You have 4 hours. (if someone wants me to answer this, pm)

Also, if you were made a Trials Overseer this trials, what would you have done differently?

On that note, do you wish to ever become Trials Overseer?

a) Below is what I answered to this question before, updated.

Spoiler for Higurashi:
What does your element represent and mean to you outside of the gameplay? What has it done for you, and what would you do for it as a Master?
Outside of Gameplay, I owe everything I have got out of this community, and everything I plan to continue to put into it, to :water. I was nervous joining the community, all of the old veterans are a little intimidating, but thankfully I was pursuaded to join Brawl. And one of my greatest strengths is that when I am involved in something, especially if others rely on me, I put everything I can into that thing. Dd drafted me into :water Frostbite Borealis :water. And Water, which was my favorite element anyway, indelibly marked itself on my heart.

As Master, I will give have given full commitment and dedication to War and Brawl. While I might lack experience in War itself, I have a good understanding of elements meta leaving me capable in deck building, and (it seems) very good at PvP. But my real strength is in team-building and diplomacy. I will certainly create a good group dynamic, and allow us to enjoy ourselves and relish the competition. I am also not 'proud' or selfish, and will delegate responsibility and trust in the opinions of more experienced team members as General. I believe a winning team does not necessarily have the most powerful General, but the General who inspires his troops.

Plus, y'know, outside elements, I drink water. It helps me live.


b) (Jenkar)
Phase 1 I suppose I could have put in the extra three hours of work to get one more point in the non-warrior task, but as I will hopefully be over 30 upgrades anyway, who has the time? I also disliked how there was no guide to how to achieve 4 points, so I am happy with 3. Warrior task I got max points (3-0, 3-1).
Phase 2 I had 10 game wins (3-0, 3-0, 3-0, 1-3) and I am happy with this too, considering my 1-3 was against Afdarenty, and Air getting to ban cards against Water is just silly. If I could have banned two air cards it might have been easier, but that wasn't the case.

c) If I was TrO I would have changed a lot about phase 1. Both the tasks themselves and the guidelines for how to achieve higher points were far too vague.

d) TrO isn't a position which really appeals to me much, particularly as, despite some things I disagree with this trials, I think we have a very good TrO team currently. However,should the time come where we need another AND not enough good candidates step forward, i might throw my hat in, who knows?


Spoiler for Basman-1453:
For everyone that Trials for their favourite element:
  • What is your second favourite element?
  • If you end up not becoming a Master for your favourite element, will you consider an approach from WMs to General your second-fave/third-fave/what-have-you element? (Quite unlikely, but hey :silly:)
    For the sake of argument, assume that you are not a WM yourself, just in case you're thinking 'I'm a WM, there's no way the WMs will approach me to Gen'.

Second Favourite element is probably Darkness or Time. I love Darkness for the versatility of its synergy with water (devs, SoV, Domin) and I just love times mechanics of draw and rewind. Also one of my favourite cards is Pharaoh.
I would love to be part of a different War team if I wasn't water general, but I wouldn't like to be general of a different war team.


Spoiler for Zyardran:
What's your reason for joining the element you're trilling for?
If you become master, what are your plans in war and brawl?

Because Water is my life in this community.
I plan to win my 3rd successive Brawl. I plan to finish 3rd or higher in War.


Questions they Whispered to the Waves, Wishing for Wisdom.


Spoiler for ji412jo:
to pie : JCJ i believe was the best master of this last cycle, do you think you can make a better master than him, and why?

Just wanted to say thankyou publicly for these lovely words.


Spoiler for ddevans96:
Only finished third in war, none worthy




Spoiler for Physsion:

JCJ, your team had a fantastic showing last War, under your leadership as General - we've talked about this briefly in chat, but do you think Water is capable of doing even better? Do you think there are still innovations to be made that could overcome your element's weaknesses, and let it reach first place?

I do have some ideas about potential deck curveballs, but I don't think people should expect such a drastic improvement this time around. Sure, I hope to improve or sustain our progress, but I spent an obscene amount of time developing the weapons that made Water a threat last war, and now those are no longer 'secret' weapons, teams may well come prepared. Yet this is a challenge I relish, as it will force me to cull some of the 'shock value' decks and replace them with others, or develop further Water staples.
The important thing is to keep destroying teams who send wings or dims against us, because as soon as teams realise that's just as likely to get them a loss as against other teams, then some of our more classic decks become viable once more, broadening our horizons.


Spoiler for ValerianFlame:
To JCJ: If Spielkind 5-0'd you in the final battle, how would you react?

To Both trialists: Water is all around us, but even then, do you feel the process of even owning clean water is a blessing?

I am confident now that any defeat of me in Trials will not be due to my failings, but due to my opponent's strength. If Spiel 5-0d me, I would be very excited to see a new Water titan craft the future of my element. I would also cry.

I won't answer the second part of the question, feel free to ask me in PMs why.


Spoiler for Aves:
Water Trials currently has the most spirit of any element. Quantify, depict, challenge, or affirm your superiority in this regard.

I learned in W10 that devtal is a water deck. Specifically, a water deck that can beat devtal. What are some other "water" decks that can beat themselves?

I believe we have the most 'spirit' because of two things. Firstly, the tenancy for water deck lovers to name their decks, secondly because our recent two Brawl wins have centered around the various creative/lore ways we have used our element. This has created a sort of mystical aura around water imo.

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Re: 11th Trials - Phase 3: Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64517.msg1263303#msg1263303
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2017, 03:17:21 am »
To JCJ: If Spielkind 5-0'd you in the final battle, how would you react?

To Spiel: How was it hosting the beautiful submission-hoard of "Kneel or Drown, Let's Still Have Fun"?

To Both trialists: Water is all around us, but even then, do you feel the process of even owning clean water is a blessing?
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Re: 11th Trials - Phase 3: Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64517.msg1263315#msg1263315
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2017, 04:43:51 am »
Water Trials currently has the most spirit of any element. Quantify, depict, challenge, or affirm your superiority in this regard.

I learned in W10 that devtal is a water deck. Specifically, a water deck that can beat devtal. What are some other "water" decks that can beat themselves?
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Re: 11th Trials - Phase 3: Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64517.msg1263362#msg1263362
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2017, 08:00:09 pm »
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Re: 11th Trials - Phase 3: Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64517.msg1263499#msg1263499
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Re: 11th Trials - Phase 3: Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64517.msg1263519#msg1263519
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Re: 11th Trials - Phase 3: Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64517.msg1263710#msg1263710
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