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Who would be the best Master of Gravity?

nilsieboy
14 (29.2%)
Laxadarap
14 (29.2%)
n00b
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vagman13
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Voting closed: November 05, 2012, 01:45:44 pm

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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44400.msg1012360#msg1012360
« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2012, 01:37:31 am »
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If you don't mind, share with me the decks you built yesterday, as well as the thinking you had behind them, why you built them and all that.

From what we saw yesterday, EQ and sundials troll gravity. How would you counter these? (And RT as well?)

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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44400.msg1012396#msg1012396
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2012, 04:25:26 am »
@Laxadarap
If you don't mind, share with me the decks you built yesterday, as well as the thinking you had behind them, why you built them and all that.

From what we saw yesterday, EQ and sundials troll gravity. How would you counter these? (And RT as well?)

Thanks for sending you the decks, I'll post them as well, unless you would rather me not, in which case I'll remove it.

For anybody who didn't know, me and furbs decided to play each other last night, speedbuilding under the restrictions of the phase 2 battles.  I didn't save my codes, but hopefully I can replicate them, I usually build my decks pretty much the same way.

Spoiler for Furb's decks and reasoning:
Game 1:
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5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f2 5f2 5f2 5f2 5f6 5f6 5f6 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 8po

Tempted to go sfumato sfenix, but I thought you'd be packing elite chargers. Otys and boners are awful. One of the reasons why nearly all the fire trial-ers banned it. They just kill fire.

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5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f7 5f7 5f7 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 8pq

Thought sundials would counter gravity pretty good. Gravy has no PC, but doesn't fear shields, so dials should counter. Catatitans counters dials though. Your bad draw won me the game.

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5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f2 5f2 5f2 5f6 5f6 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 8ps

Gravy should fear RT. SHOULD. The dreaded dischole happens, and that rips me apart. I've also used dragons and phoenixes already, crippling my arsenal.

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58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fe 5fe 6rk 77j 77j 77j 77j 77j 8pm

Gravy is expensive. EQ should troll gravy. Without dragons or phoenixes I had to rely on golems and seraphs.

Game 5:
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5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 7dn 7dn 7dn 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7k2 7k2 7k2 8pq

30 card fire stall! I was considering either this or dims. Seems like I should have taken dims. I would've won if I topdecked another miracle.

Spoiler for My decks and reasoning:
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52r 52r 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t 55r 55r 55r 55r 576 576 576 576 576 576 576 576 576 576 576 576 576 71b 71b 745 745 745 745 8pk

I used oty's, chargers, bonerwalls, and mummies, not so sure about number of them, but I think ups are right.  Quanta might be off, I may have had a 5th bonerwall, I may have had 31 cards, not really sure.  Anyway, Bonewall counters immorushes very well, strips away the benefit of high attack creatures, plus CC would just help me.  When I was looking at oty, unupped it can only counter like 5 rush cards, and 3 of those are in fire.  This seemed like a very solid opening deck.

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55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55s 55s 55s 55s 55s 55s 55t 55t 55t 561 561 561 561 576 576 576 576 576 7n2 7n2 7n2 7n2 7n2 7n2 8pl

Catatitan says trololol to CC, which with bonewalls down, might have been good for him to use.  Also, since I can't outstall fire, I need to outrush it.  Start with a 1 quanta start, by 15 cards left (when he killed me), I had only drawn 1 more :S.  Ended up getting out 2 catas and 2 titans, but he started chaining at 84 hp I think, and I flew my 2nd titan, fearing deflag (had no catas out atm).  I probably could have won if I hadn't, (and if I had enough quanta to catapult both, I ended with 3 quanta :S) His faren and 4 turns of dialchain gave him the win.

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4vl 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vn 4vn 55k 55k 55k 55k 55v 55v 55v 55v 55v 55v 576 576 576 576 576 576 576 576 745 745 745 745 745 745 8pj

Honestly not quite sure on the quanta balance on this, but I know I had 4 discos, 6 chargers, 2 AM, and probably 6 bholes, so this is probably it.  Furbs never plays immorushes, so I figured that fires stalls and high quanta critters couldn't do anything to dbh.  Drew 2 of the 4 pillars in opening hand or in first couple draws.  Either way, I had a bunch of gravy quanta.  Had a fairly slow discord (though thats only because of pend rotation), and he got out a pheonix.  Got out a disco, bholed every 2 turns or so, only had 1 charger halfway through deck, but I was able to AM his pheonix, which he RT'd, then thanks to the early gravy pillars and low chargers, I had enough quanta to play everything I got.  I think I em'd, but not sure.

I honestly have no clue what I played for game 4, but it had Oty's, and bb, which were both good counter to fire.  I think it may have had steel golems for cc avoidance, and no clue what else (not sure what gravy attacker it was, or if it was a grav shield stall (which is bad idea vs. fire, so I doubt it was that) possibly it was catamagios or something?.  I do remember getting 1 pillar opening hand, but topdecking a second.  Unfortunately, furbs had cointoss, and enough quanta to QS me next turn.  He pretty much got out a Longsword, while I was waiting for quanta.  (I was earth mark, so I had no chance of getting out an oty).  Drew 2 more pends in the course of the game.  Both were quicksanded.  Nothing I could do.

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Ok, I can no longer use Oty's or chargers, or catatitans, so stalling and rushing were pretty much out.  I expected something with bolts, although I think I was thinking of stall faster.  Armagios can't handle that, so that left guards.  Dims would fail horribly to deflag and bolts, so guardtal was pretty much out (I could probably have done it with silences (good thing I didn't bring those :)).  I started with a couple guards, bit of quanta, and both mitosis in hand.  2 of my next three topdecks were adrenaline (one was a pend).  So I very quickly got out a mitoguard and 2 adrenalined ones.  Becuase of the light quanta, furbs took a while to get enough quanta to bolt well, and he took out both my adrenalined guards.  I ended up winning (after he topdecked a miracle to prolong it, EFFFF), with like 15 guards on the field, two of them being mito'd and 2 having adrenaline.  I'm not sure what the gpulls in the deck where, they may have been them, maybe they weren't, furbs may remember me playing something else.
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44400.msg1012398#msg1012398
« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2012, 04:32:51 am »
For my last deck, I think I put the upped code for pends instead of unuppped hah. Your fourth deck was time/gravity from what I saw, since you did get one momentum'd dune out. I should have expected a guardtal or mitoguard last game since you used up your chargers. Accelmagio would have also been a break card, so it might have been a mistake to use firestall. I really should have used dims last game :P

 

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