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[12th Trial of Darkness] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 4 CactusKing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66302.msg1279649#msg1279649
« on: September 01, 2018, 11:55:04 am »
ggs! A few spot on predictions, along with some juicy RNG screwage keeping it interesting for both sides. Grats CactusKing for giving me the closest final yet, already went 5-1, 5-2 and 5-3 in past finals. Now a 5-4 to add to the record. Here are decks:
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Game 1 WIN:
Sadism Incarnate
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EQ Devs vs all my Marks? How dare you! I barely used any because upgrades, but still! Won by instead locking him down, killing Pests with Dark Nymph and Stealing just about everything. Just like the deck was supposed to work.
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Game 2 WIN:
Sadism Incarnate
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Server derped when game was getting really close. I kept drawing stupid quanta and barely had any non-quanta left at the end, which may or may not have been enough to turn the tide. We will never know.
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The replay turned out the way I intended for this deck to perform against Siphonary. It was not even funny, just brutal.
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Game 3 LOSS:
SoPest
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I hear people complain about RNG losses a lot, 1 pillar, blablabla. I drew no quanta. All game. RIP.
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Game 4 LOSS:
Ghostmare
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A solid counter to Ghostmare. Not having a Vampire Dagger myself or one to Steal made it impossible for me to win once the Dragon popped up.
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Game 5 WIN:
Purgatory
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Suddenly, Cactus coming with Holy Flash same game I do. I had more creatures and 2 Steals, but only 3 Holy Flash. Instead of drawing creatures, I drew all Flashes and Steals. Won by stolen Duck and Dagger, mainly. And the swarm of creatures appearing when there was little else left remaining in my deck.
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Game 6 WIN:
Siphonary
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Was afraid Cactus used another of my ideas I built, my g9 deck. No SoFree and awesome Duck made this a very easy win. Stealing Vampire Dagger made it even easier.
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Game 7 LOSS:
Sadism Incarnate V2
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Wanted some awesome Marks on the game that would win me the match. Except I did not win, Cactus had a really good start, whereas mine was mediocre. I mean, my start would be great versus any deck that wasn't a denial deck. Desperately evaded denial, but Eclipse did me in.
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Game 8 LOSS:
Purgatory
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Liquid Antimatter with Nymphs? I considered using Ghostmare or Siphonary, but was convinced Cactus would bring a counter to Siphonary. Nope! I brought about the only deck I had, that would be beaten by this. Really nice prediction. Drawing a Steal to counter Vampire Dagger could have won me the game. Really close.
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Game 9 WIN:
Dark Freedom
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Here goes nothing, my final ace. I correctly predicted the deck Cactus would bring, but somehow did not foresee him actually PU + killing my Sky Dragon, making it really close. Might have been better to save that Dragon a while longer, but did not want to wait until Cactus had enough quanta to one-shot it with Siphon Life.
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« Last Edit: September 01, 2018, 12:27:54 pm by TheonlyrealBeef »

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Re: [12th Trial of Darkness] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 4 CactusKing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66302.msg1279650#msg1279650
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2018, 12:02:01 pm »
ggs TorB, a pleasure to play with you.

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Game 1 - Loss
Enter Sandman
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Game 2 - Loss
Cold Dark Place
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Game 3 - Win
Endless Night
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Game 4 - Win
Electric Red
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Game 5 - Loss
Prayer Position
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Game 6 - Loss
Down From The Sky
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Game 7 - Win
Divide Paths
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Game 8 - Win
Beast and the Harlot
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Game 9 - Loss
Electric Red 2: Electric Boogaloo
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« Last Edit: September 02, 2018, 05:05:16 am by CactusKing »
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Re: [12th Trial of Darkness] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 4 CactusKing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66302.msg1279651#msg1279651
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2018, 12:49:52 pm »
Wow.
CK, I vastly underestimated you. Those are some truly finals-worthy decks, with some interesting creations. Tears LA is a janky deck but you made it work against the best.
You acquitted yourself very, very well, and I'm sure Torb will be looking at you for war.

Deck names are just gravy, rivaling even DD.
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Re: [12th Trial of Darkness] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 4 CactusKing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66302.msg1279657#msg1279657
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2018, 02:51:21 pm »
Congratulations, TorB!

Kudos to Cactus as well, this is a very impressive showing.
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Re: [12th Trial of Darkness] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 4 CactusKing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66302.msg1279658#msg1279658
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Re: [12th Trial of Darkness] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 4 CactusKing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66302.msg1279660#msg1279660
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2018, 03:16:03 pm »
Grats CactusKing for giving me the closest final yet, already went 5-1, 5-2 and 5-3 in past finals. Now a 5-4 to add to the record.

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Re: [12th Trial of Darkness] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 4 CactusKing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66302.msg1279671#msg1279671
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losing 4-5 18 ups vs 26 means u are the are real master of darkness even without the forum title

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Re: [12th Trial of Darkness] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 4 CactusKing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66302.msg1279701#msg1279701
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2018, 11:19:37 am »
@TrOs

I don't want to make a big fuss about this, but it's at least worth mentioning the mutual disconnection in game two here.
I am certain I would have won game two had the server not cut off the match. From our decks and the video in the spoiler below, I ask you to judge whether I am correct in this, and if beyond reasonable doubt I would have won, to change the match result accordingly, as per the rule:

If the player who lost connection can prove that they'd win despite any series of draws from the opponent (barring AI misplays), they will be awarded the win.

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Re: [12th Trial of Darkness] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 4 CactusKing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66302.msg1279702#msg1279702
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2018, 11:22:03 am »
Sauciest move all trials?

@TrOs

I don't want to make a big fuss about this, but it's at least worth mentioning the mutual disconnection in game two here.
I am certain I would have won game two had the server not cut off the match. From our decks and the video in the spoiler below, I ask you to judge whether I am correct in this, and if beyond reasonable doubt I would have won, to change the match result accordingly, as per the rule:

If the player who lost connection can prove that they'd win despite any series of draws from the opponent (barring AI misplays), they will be awarded the win.

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Re: [12th Trial of Darkness] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 4 CactusKing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66302.msg1279703#msg1279703
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2018, 11:36:47 am »
Ah, the good old disconnection. I can relate to Cactus here, it has happened to me many times in the past during League. However, there are 2 issues.


1st: The player has to deliver a winning screenshot (or other proof) that he/she won your AI in case of disconnection, that is how it is done in League at least.

2nd: If both people agreed to replay the match, I don't think the losing player can claim victory anymore.


I don't know how this will end but I hope for the less possible drama...
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Re: [12th Trial of Darkness] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 4 CactusKing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66302.msg1279704#msg1279704
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2018, 11:43:37 am »
Going by Beef's screenshot, you are left with 68 hp and 1 Sanc at the start of your next turn. You lose the game if the following happens:

You draw a quanta. End turn, Vagger misses, go to 72.
Beef draws a Dragon, you go to 37.
You draw a quanta. Not enough quanta for Miracle. End turn, Vagger misses, go to 41.
Beef draws a Dragon, puts 47 damage on board, so your Vagger only has to miss once.
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Re: [12th Trial of Darkness] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 4 CactusKing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66302.msg1279715#msg1279715
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2018, 03:29:59 pm »
also cactus doesn't need to draw (if i counted correctly)

5° drain life
6° drain life
5° sundial
6° sundial
3° dusk (more rng)
4 ° sanct
5 ° santc
6 ° sanct

other than

2/8 to draw a dragon
50% vagger miss
1/7 to draw the second one after the first
50% vagger miss

""""your Vagger only has to miss once"""""

i can be wrong but catcus in both screen and video has 9  :light , 6  :darkness pend (turned on dark) and  :light mark, he has chances to miracle before getting killed even if torb topdecks 2 steals and devourers steals is light quanta (and he can always draw his last pends to make the chances even higher)

how much are the chances? even sowyrms or cata with ridiculous rng can lose against a stall

 

anything
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