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Weekly Tournament - August 2nd - Powerless 3 - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55141.msg1147793#msg1147793
« on: July 27, 2014, 03:17:54 pm »
It's the three! Threes errywhere. Most of the events build around the number 3 and now we're going to break this curse!

Weekly Tournament - August 2nd - Powerless 3 - Upgraded
We are visible again! Organizers: Submachine, Dm1321, Higurashi or Calindu

When?
To find out your local time, check this link:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140802T19

Tournament has started

Where?
Please enter the Tournament room at least 15 minutes before the tournament starts.
Click "Rooms" in the top left to find it.

Rules
Please read the PvP Tournament rules carefully before signing up.

Prizes
1st7,000 electrum + Nymph/Mark + Trophy (Forum Icon)
2nd5,000 electrum + Nymph/Mark
3rd4,000 electrum
4th3,000 electrum
5th2,000 electrum
6th1,000 electrum

Players who lose their quarterfinal (Top 8) matches will compete for the 5th and 6th place prizes in a mini-tournament. Prize-eligible players (namely, ones in the top 8) who leave the tournament without notifying the Tournament Organizer of their intent are considered to have forfeited their match, and also their prize.

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Black lines and text represent the brackets.
Red arrows represent 'dropping' into a different part of the bracket.
Blue arrows and text explain which battles are taking place in that part of the bracket.



NOTE: Players with fewer than 10 forum posts are not allowed to enter tournaments. Spamming low-quality posts to reach the minimum post count needed to participate will not be tolerated.

Special Rules
  • Players have to choose a side 10 minutes before tournament starts: Duality or Quartz.
  • Duality must pick 2 elements to use from the start and they can use any upgraded cards.
  • Quartz must pick 4 elements to use from the start, but they can only use unupgraded cards.
  • Players can only build decks from their picked elements.
  • Shards, Earthquake|Quicksand, Trident|Poseidon and Other cards are banned. Discord is only banned for Duality.


Tournament Organizer Note

If you think that there is an overpowered card that should be banned, don't say it publicly in the comments. Instead, send them to Submachine and Dm1321, who will privately discuss whether the card is really OP or not. Any comments about possible card combos will be deleted on sight.


Congratulations for the winners!




1st: RootRanger
2nd: Megron
3rd: Kirbystar
4th: Tirear
5th: Rutarete
6nd: theelkspeaks
« Last Edit: August 03, 2014, 06:21:19 am by Submachine »
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Re: Weekly Tournament - August 2nd - Powerless 3 - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55141.msg1147794#msg1147794
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2014, 03:18:11 pm »
Deck Checker for the tournament: http://etg.dek.im/communitytournament.htm
Special thanks for Fippe94 and serprex for creating this tool and the ruleset checker.


Quartz people are not forced to build quartets, just like Duality people are not forced to build duos. Example:

If Quartz Player A chose :earth :life :light and :air, and Duality Player B chose :fire and :aether, then Quartzy Player A can build an :earth :life duo, just like Duality Player B can build a mono :fire.

Player NameSideAvailable Elements
dragonsdemesneQuartz:fire :aether :light :entropy
Zso_ZsoDuality:light :aether
RootRangerDuality:death :aether
RutareteDuality:entropy :aether
TirearQuartz:life :death :aether :air
dark ripperDuality:fire :light
mathman101Quartz:death :life :fire :darkness
KakerlakeDuality:time :aether
ji412joDuality:darkness :light
hainkargaDuality:air :gravity
MegroNDuality:fire :air
theelkspeaksDuality:aether :water
ARTHANASIOSDuality:life :fire
Dm1321Duality:gravity :water
deuce22Duality:air :gravity
kirbystarQuartz:air :aether :darkness :water
Kaede_DarkaraDuality:death :water

The table will be filled in with actual information when the tournament starts.
« Last Edit: August 02, 2014, 07:04:15 pm by Submachine »
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Re: Weekly Tournament - August 2nd - Powerless 3 - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55141.msg1147795#msg1147795
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2014, 03:38:16 pm »
Nice idea!  I really like the ones like this that allow upgraded cards, but give the players who don't have as many upgrades a chance to still compete effectively.

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Re: Weekly Tournament - August 2nd - Powerless 3 - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55141.msg1147796#msg1147796
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2014, 03:41:28 pm »
What dragons said. Though it's 1 am for me, so no participation :/

Sure you don't want any bans? I'm not sure which, but i feel some restrictions are in order...

Pillars/pends must be of picked elements?
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Re: Weekly Tournament - August 2nd - Powerless 3 - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55141.msg1147799#msg1147799
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2014, 03:50:05 pm »
Still, I think Duality is OP. I suggest forcing Duality to only opposite elemental duos and banning some cards like Discord etc. Imho, the allowed duos should be :entropy :gravity, :death :life, :fire :water, :earth :air, :light :darkness, :aether :time.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - August 2nd - Powerless 3 - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55141.msg1147867#msg1147867
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2014, 08:24:24 am »
Maybe... consider :

Duality: 2 elements 100% of deck can be upgraded
Trio     :3 elements 50% of the deck can be upgraded
Quartz : 4 elements 25% of the deck can be upgraded

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Re: Weekly Tournament - August 2nd - Powerless 3 - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55141.msg1147868#msg1147868
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2014, 08:47:24 am »
Maybe... consider :

Duality: 2 elements 100% of deck can be upgraded
Trio     :3 elements 50% of the deck can be upgraded
Quartz : 4 elements 25% of the deck can be upgraded
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Re: Weekly Tournament - August 2nd - Powerless 3 - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55141.msg1147872#msg1147872
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2014, 09:09:32 am »
I actually agree with your point. But i humble suspect that the duo upgraded decks would be way better. I may be wrong, cause a creative and more experienced player could make miracles with 4 elements in his hand rather than 2 elements. The only problem that i see is that it would be difficult to check if the decks are following the rules.
Maybe a slightly change so like:

Duo : 2 elements fully upgraded
Quartz : 4 elements only pillars/pend upgraded or even 1card(no matter the copies) can be upgraded.

Maybe it's a bit more balanced. I am also a bit unexperienced so feel free negleting my suggestions.

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Re: Weekly Tournament - August 2nd - Powerless 3 - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55141.msg1147883#msg1147883
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2014, 11:03:48 am »
Problem is that a fully upped deck is extremely faster than any unupped counterpart. If the 4-element players do not guess a very good counter versus their 2-element opponent, they are really screwed. In the end, the 'noobs without any upgrades' will be punched the hardest and that may even discourage any future participation to tournaments.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - August 2nd - Powerless 3 - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55141.msg1147885#msg1147885
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2014, 11:07:17 am »
Might I suggest only unupped pillar/pends so that the velocity difference isnt that big?

On the other hand its an upgraded tourney. Oh well.
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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2014, 11:10:56 am »
There is a reason for upped tourney and why its only 1of4... so why arguing for those rules, you have very many ways to meta duos with 4 elements. Upped or unupped. In case of other upped tourneys you can but have not to play upped cards... thats more unfair for players with less upped cards than this rule!
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Re: Weekly Tournament - August 2nd - Powerless 3 - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55141.msg1147916#msg1147916
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2014, 03:11:48 pm »
There is a reason for upped tourney and why its only 1of4... so why arguing for those rules, you have very many ways to meta duos with 4 elements. Upped or unupped. In case of other upped tourneys you can but have not to play upped cards... thats more unfair for players with less upped cards than this rule!

I agree with Spielkind here. Especially for the last part.
This is an upgraded tourney and more rule comfortable for player without many ups.


Also, I don't think banning cards is necerssary here.
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