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Title: The Arena : FAQ [Read this first!]
Post by: ZephyrPhantom on May 23, 2012, 03:37:34 am
The Arena : FAQ

For the mechanics of the Arena, see this article. (http://elementscommunity.org/wiki/Arena)
Q: So, how does this whole Arena deck thing work?
A: Arena allows you to make a 'defense' deck that other players can go against. The 'defense' deck has a number of determining factors :
- Whatever card you spin from the Oracle will automatically have 5 Copies placed in your 'defense' deck.
- You can spend stat points to improve your 'defense' deck's capability. The four stats are Stamina (+HP), Wisdom (+Upgraded Cards),  Intellect (+Mark), and Dexterity (2x Draw and 2x Deck Size). You gain more stat points as you level up your score with your normal deck.

The regular deck you actually use against other Arena decks is your 'offense' deck - it isn't linked to your defense deck in any manner whatsoever and thus isn't affected by stats or the Oracle card.

Q: Hey, I've made an Arena deck and used the stat things, but I don't have increased HP or double marks! What's going on?
A: Stat increases to your arena deck only affect the deck people play against in arena. Think of the arena deck as a 'defense' deck that you can invest stat points into, while the deck you use (your 'offense' deck) remains separate from those buffs.

Q: What's so special about Dexterity/double draw? (Alternatively, how'd my opponent get more than 6 copies of a card in his deck?)
A: Double draw is one of the more valued abilities in the arena because it not only allows your Arena 'defense' deck to draw 2 cards at a time, it also doubles the size of your deck, similar to a False God. This allows Arena decks to have 12 copies of a card, which is pretty powerful given a card like Nova or Pest.

Q: Where can I get upgraded cards from the Rare Spin?
Gold and Platinum automatically upgrade the cards they use in their Rare spin due to increased difficulty. Play at your own risk.

Q:Why is there a section for decks of each League?
A: League Deck Sections are for your Arena 'defense' decks that you find post-worthy. If you're just making a normal 'offense' deck like an Arena Grinder, that belongs in the Deck Ideas Section (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php#c3) instead.

Q: Where can I find Arena 'Offense' decks, in that case?
A: The Community has two threads for Offense decks, 1 for Bronze and Silver (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,38675.0.html) and 1 for Gold and Platinum (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,38676.0.html).

Q: Okay, so I'm about to level up to Platinum, but I'm worried about losing the money gain from Gold? Is it worth leveling up?
A: Yes. Platinum will still give more income than Gold even if you're on the bottom, and you'll eventually level out of the bottom position and head towards the top.

Q: (In general) - I'm at the top of [league] and about to move up to the bottom of [next league]. Will I get less money in [next league]?
A : Nope. You'll generally earn as much as (if not more than) :electrum if you move up a league, so don't be afraid to move up - your income will always increase in the long run.  This applies to pretty much every league 'transition', not just Gold and Platinum.

Q: How does thumbs up/thumbs down work?  Is there any advantage to rating one way or the other? 
A: Thumbing a deck down reduces the rating it gains from your match, while thumbing it up increases the rating it gains from your match. Ideally, you should vote down decks that are unoriginal and badly made and vote up decks that are clever and fun to play against.

Voting a deck also refunds you 5 :electrum , so it's in your best interest to do it whenever you lose an Arena match.

Q: My Arena deck only lost once, and dropped more than 100 points in the rankings?!?!?  Yet, when I win, it only goes up a bit - what gives? 
A: Loses will always have a stronger impact on rating than wins do because it allows the game to 'cycle' out your deck from the previous day and replace it with more recent ones.
(Also keep in mind that when you Arena deck loses, it doesn't give you money and just subtracts rank, while your Arena deck winning gives you rank + money.)

Q: Can I see how many thumbs up my deck got?
A: If your deck hasn't been in the Top 10, then yes. A thumbs up doubles your electrum and rating rewards. Normal rewards are 4/6/9/12.
Divide your gained electrum amount by the normal reward for your league, and subtract the number of wins. What you get is the number of "thumbs up".

Q: What happened ? I faced a deck with 1 HP.
A: Then you were lucky. The older a deck, the less HPs it has. 1 HP always remains. These 1-HP decks will either leave the top 500 quickly, or the player will put up a new deck soon. However, even a 1HP deck can win if you're not fast.

Q: I have won several thousand electrums in one game. How?
A: Decks in the top 10 of their league reward players with more money. On the flipside, though, if your Arena deck is one of the Top 10 it also has an increased income rate. Top 10 = x2 reward. Rank 3 = x3 reward. Rank 2 = x4 reward. Rank 1 = x5 reward. If players like your deck and give it a thumbs up, your reward -and- rating gain for that match will double.

Q: What time of day do the arena decks get older?
A: 07:00 GMT. This is also the time of day that the Oracle resets.
If you have any other questions, feel free to post here.
Title: Re: The Arena : FAQ [Read this first!]
Post by: memimemi on May 23, 2012, 04:47:01 am
I have a few questions:

What restrictions does the AI have on play?  For example, I know it won't play more than 6 SoS, regardless of how many it has in its deck.  Are there any other cards the AI won't play, for any reason?

How does thumbs up/thumbs down work?  Is there any advantage to rating one way or the other? 

My Arena deck only lost once, and dropped more than 100 points in the rankings?!?!?  Yet, when I win, it only goes up a bit - what gives? 

I know that the answers are out there (I've found them, myself, at one point or another), but this seems a good place to collect up the links.  Anyways, these were the questions I had when I first started out building Arena decks; perhaps the answers would help other n00bs?
Title: Re: The Arena : FAQ [Read this first!]
Post by: ZephyrPhantom on May 23, 2012, 04:56:47 am
Quote from: memimemi on May 23, 2012, 04:47:01 am
How does thumbs up/thumbs down work?  Is there any advantage to rating one way or the other? 

My Arena deck only lost once, and dropped more than 100 points in the rankings?!?!?  Yet, when I win, it only goes up a bit - what gives? 
Added these.

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What restrictions does the AI have on play?  For example, I know it won't play more than 6 SoS, regardless of how many it has in its deck.  Are there any other cards the AI won't play, for any reason?
Hmm, I think this question is more appropriate for Game Coding Q&A (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,32442.0.html) - personally, I can't recall all the AI quirks.
Title: Re: The Arena : FAQ [Read this first!]
Post by: teffy on May 23, 2012, 08:28:57 pm
Q: Can I see, how many thumbs up my deck got ?
If your deck hasn´t been in the Top 10, then yes. A thumbs up doubles your electrum reward (and rating reward I think). Normal rewards are 4/6/9/12.
Divide your gained electrum amount by the normal reward for your league, and subtract the number of wins. What you get is the number of "thumbs up".

Q: What happened ? I faced a deck with 1 HP.
Then you were lucky. The older a deck, the less HPs it has. 1 HP always remains. These 1-HP decks will either leave the top 500 quickly, or the player will put up a new deck soon. However, even a 1HP deck can win.

Q: I have won several thousands electums in one game. How ?
Top 10 get more money for their deck, and I if you defeat them, your money also increases.
(I don´t know exactly how much, now)


Title: Re: The Arena : FAQ [Read this first!]
Post by: Blaze on November 16, 2012, 04:59:46 pm
I recently won two spins off of a gold deck, and the cards I won were not upgraded. What happened?
Title: Re: The Arena : FAQ [Read this first!]
Post by: willng3 on November 16, 2012, 05:10:01 pm
Quote from: Blaze on November 16, 2012, 04:59:46 pm
I recently won two spins off of a gold deck, and the cards I won were not upgraded. What happened?
Only the special spins are upgraded.  Normal spins from defeated decks are unupped.
Title: Re: The Arena : FAQ [Read this first!]
Post by: Blaze on November 16, 2012, 08:14:52 pm
Ah, makes sense :)
Title: Re: The Arena : FAQ [Read this first!]
Post by: matteosc on November 30, 2012, 08:26:42 pm
I want the card from the oracle but I don't want to change my current "defense deck" If I do my spin will it automatically make my deck inactive?
Title: Re: The Arena : FAQ [Read this first!]
Post by: BaconCobra on November 30, 2012, 08:30:50 pm
No it wont. your current deck stays active until:
a) You build a new one.
b) It drops below rank 500.
Title: Re: The Arena : FAQ [Read this first!]
Post by: matteosc on November 30, 2012, 08:33:46 pm
Good.... goooood  >:(
Title: Re: The Arena : FAQ [Read this first!]
Post by: tomeee on April 16, 2014, 02:34:07 pm
"This allows Arena decks to have <at least> 12 copies of a card"  => .. <at most> ..
Title: Re: The Arena : FAQ [Read this first!]
Post by: kirbystar on July 29, 2014, 07:33:50 am
Thank you for this post. It answer most of my questions about the arena.
Don't forget to test your defense deck :P
Title: Re: The Arena : FAQ [Read this first!]
Post by: Reach229 on May 08, 2015, 04:30:45 pm
Hi,

What time of day do the arena decks get older? (and what time zone ofc)

One time i swear it turned a day old within the hour lol

thanks,

P.s sorry if this has been asked before, it's very hard to search for anything with 'Time' in it! :)
Title: Re: The Arena : FAQ [Read this first!]
Post by: DoubleCapitals on May 08, 2015, 04:45:21 pm
7 GMT, I think. Or 8, not sure about DST because EtG follows PST/PDT
Title: Re: The Arena : FAQ [Read this first!]
Post by: Afdarenty on May 08, 2015, 04:45:48 pm
07:00 GMT. This is also the time of day that the Oracle resets.
Title: Re: The Arena : FAQ [Read this first!]
Post by: Reach229 on May 13, 2015, 06:52:37 am
Afdarenty, Qwerter, thanks to you both :)
Title: Re: The Arena : FAQ [Read this first!]
Post by: Submachine on August 30, 2019, 09:19:23 pm
What is the link for the arena deck submitting tool? I thought it was arena.dek.im, but that did not work.
Title: Re: The Arena : FAQ [Read this first!]
Post by: Wyand on August 30, 2019, 09:36:36 pm
http://jsfiddle.net/r6K2b/30/embedded/result/
Title: Re: The Arena : FAQ [Read this first!]
Post by: Submachine on August 30, 2019, 10:19:21 pm
There used to be a shorter link that redirected to that page. The link works though. ^^ Cheers!~
Title: Re: The Arena : FAQ [Read this first!]
Post by: Naii_the_Baf on August 30, 2019, 10:43:53 pm
http://dek.im/arena/
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