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arena darwinism, or why a truly consistant arena farmer will never be found https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30101.msg382632#msg382632
« on: August 20, 2011, 03:51:26 pm »
As i was looking for a deck to use against the arena, i had a realization, even if you do find a good deck to use, and share it, it will not stay a good deck simply because by playing it, it will take out the decks that it is good against, making it less effective, and lose to decks that is is bad against, making their stay in arena longer, therefore increasing the chances of finding a deck it is bad against, therefore making the deck less consistent. thoughts?
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Re: arena darwinism, or why a truly consistant arena farmer will never be found https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30101.msg382633#msg382633
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2011, 03:53:05 pm »
Interesting realization. I think I agree. (posting to keep track)
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Re: arena darwinism, or why a truly consistant arena farmer will never be found https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30101.msg382647#msg382647
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2011, 04:30:44 pm »
It's possible to have the very best Arena farmer, but only if you or a couple others use it. If you post an Arena farmer on the forums, you're just making it a worse deck.
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Re: arena darwinism, or why a truly consistant arena farmer will never be found https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30101.msg382676#msg382676
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2011, 05:28:30 pm »
without the ability to see our submitted decks in action, perhaps you are right.  only wins matter.  how lame or cool a deck we submit means nothing. 

i think its far more likely for an unbeatable submitted deck to exist, one that cant be fully countered due to the inherent advantages of submitted decks.  its pretty easy to copy and submit the deck that pummels the bejesus out of us, far easier than finding a deck that farms said unbeatable deck
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Re: arena darwinism, or why a truly consistant arena farmer will never be found https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30101.msg384821#msg384821
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2011, 01:52:01 am »
I think I've even noticed this as I grind. At the start, my deck is ripping through everything. After a while, I seem to get more and more of the same type of deck that owns it. I'm selecting out the deck I hate the most!

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Re: arena darwinism, or why a truly consistant arena farmer will never be found https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30101.msg384826#msg384826
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2011, 02:01:44 am »
This is true to a certain extent. It depends a lot on what OTHER people are playing too though.

I'll use rock paper scissors as an example. The arena is made up of rocks, papers, and scissors. You are consistently playing rock, so you may think that the amount or scissors will decrease, while the amount of rocks stay the same. However, there are also a lot of people playing scissors and paper as well, so while you are beating the scissors and sometimes the rock,  there is another person always beating the paper and sometimes the scissors.

Now the caveat with this is that if rock is faster, then even if scissors is winning against paper consistently, you are encountering more than what the scissors can keep up with.  Then on the other hand, you may be able to develop a rock that is able to beat paper, and not scissors. ect ect.
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Re: arena darwinism, or why a truly consistant arena farmer will never be found https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30101.msg385733#msg385733
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2011, 11:01:57 am »
So basically why you lose your streak at the last game is because of the rock paper scissors nature of the decks?
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