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Re: Sideboard #4 - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64684.msg1272864#msg1272864
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2017, 10:05:15 pm »
What happens for people who progress to next round of groups?

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You progress to the next round of groups. (I'm not sure specifically what you mean?)

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Re: Sideboard #4 - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64684.msg1272865#msg1272865
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2017, 10:15:07 pm »
Is the number of allowed upgrades 6 for the whole event, or just for the first round of groups?

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Re: Sideboard #4 - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64684.msg1272866#msg1272866
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2017, 10:44:47 pm »
What happens for people who progress to next round of groups?

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You progress to the next round of groups. (I'm not sure specifically what you mean?)
In the rules the knockout stage was crossed out, I took this to mean there would be a second round of round-robin style tournament, but is that how it is intended?

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Re: Sideboard #4 - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64684.msg1272870#msg1272870
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2017, 04:13:12 am »
I believe this is what Torb intends, but we'll have to see how he responds.

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Re: Sideboard #4 - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64684.msg1272875#msg1272875
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2017, 11:01:29 am »
What happens for people who progress to next round of groups?

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You progress to the next round of groups. (I'm not sure specifically what you mean?)

How’s a winner chosen, what happens after this next round of groups?
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Re: Sideboard #4 - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64684.msg1272878#msg1272878
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2017, 12:14:49 pm »
Do we have to play the full 50 card deck in game 1 like war sideboard?
No.

I believe this is what Torb intends, but we'll have to see how he responds.
The only thing I changed in the rules was the person to send to, so I was hoping you had a grand design plan :silly:

Very well, then.
Given 32 players, you would get 8 groups of 4, the top 2 of each group advances to the next set of 4 groups of 4, whose top 2s advances to the next 2 groups of 4, whose top 2s advances to the final group where the winner is the number 1 of that group. I do not expect 32 players, so there will be one less group round with number and size of groups adjusted to match the number of participants with top 2 advancing in each group and each group having 4-6 participants.
To summarize, number of groups per round with 32 players: 8 -> 4 -> 2 -> 1 -> END
The rounds would last 2 weeks each.

The group seeding of subsequent groups will avoid putting players that have already faced one another in the same group first and foremost, secondly a decent balance of number 1s and 2s will attempt to be found, unless this conflicts with the aforementioned point.

Does that sound about right? Perhaps this ought to be included within the OP of the rules.

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Re: Sideboard #4 - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64684.msg1273017#msg1273017
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2017, 09:53:17 pm »
once the field/groups are determined, are the 50 cards posted for all to view prior to battle?

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Re: Sideboard #4 - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64684.msg1273044#msg1273044
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Is the number of allowed upgrades 6 for the whole event, or just for the first round of groups?
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Re: Sideboard #4 - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64684.msg1273074#msg1273074
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2018, 12:30:30 pm »
once the field/groups are determined, are the 50 cards posted for all to view prior to battle?
Yes, in their respective group topics.

Is the number of allowed upgrades 6 for the whole event, or just for the first round of groups?
Section 3 of the rules really is not clear, I did not have time to rewrite this during the holidays. Previous sideboard had additional upgrades during the knockout round depending on your performance in the group round. This sideboard has only group rounds, so you will get 2 additional upgrades for every match won in previous group rounds. Game wins do not count towards upgrades anymore to prevent 30+ upgrades during the final round.

The section has just been rewritten. Some important changes:
  • Groups are not guaranteed to have the same number of players. I prefer letting every player that signed up participate over kicking out up to 3 players for the sake of keeping (initial?) group size exactly 4.
  • You receive additional upgrades depending on your performance during previous group rounds.
  • A grouping example has been added for 16-19 players: 4 groups round 1, 2 groups round 2, 1 final group to determine the winner.
Landing in a larger group reduces your chances of advancing, but potentially allows for more upgrades to be used in future rounds.

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Re: Sideboard #4 - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64684.msg1273076#msg1273076
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2018, 01:03:53 pm »
What...I don’t think the sideboard should be posted in the group topics.
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Re: Sideboard #4 - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64684.msg1273077#msg1273077
« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2018, 01:30:55 pm »
What...I don’t think the sideboard should be posted in the group topics.
This isn't league. You post your decks after each match. It would be pointless to hide your full deck, otherwise everyone would want to play last. Pre-Revealed sideboard also prevents blind-rngy matches and allows some real strategy.
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Re: Sideboard #4 - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64684.msg1273078#msg1273078
« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2018, 02:18:10 pm »
I thought we wouldn’t be posting decks at all, until the end. Otherwise our opponent pretty much knows what’s coming.
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