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(Air Gen) Afdarenty 3-0 blrawen (Aether Lt) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63145.msg1246694#msg1246694
« on: September 24, 2016, 09:49:02 pm »
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I'm fairly sure I got countered. But I'm playing 15 upgrade Mono Air, so it didn't matter much. Good games, Aether, sorry for the luck.

One of the most intense set of games I've played. I can't remember a play-by-play, but I had good quanta draws, often EE for fast damage, and enough SoFr to beat out his steals and deal damage past the Dims - though only very narrowly.

We ended up playing about 5 games with all the desyncs. Of the wins, one match I had 4 SoFr in the top 12, which meant I could easily deal enough damage through the Dims to win. Another match there was only one Dim, so my Dragons had a large enough window to win without SoFr. In the final game I had a very fast start, but blrawen had all the Dims he needed, and (I assumed) a lot of steals. I saved up to play three Dragons, then played out my SoFr one at a time. I needed 3/6 Dragon attacks to go through with 1 SoFr out, and got exactly 3.

Of the two desyncs, one was a match where blrawen drew no Dims. I'm pretty certain I'd have won that if my AI hadn't used Shockwave instead of saving up for a Sky Dragon. The other I needed SoFr to trigger 3/5 times with two of them out. On my side it triggered twice, on his side it triggered three times.
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Re: (Air Gen) Afdarenty 3-0 blrawen (Aether Lt) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63145.msg1246695#msg1246695
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Re: (Air Gen) Afdarenty 3-0 blrawen (Aether Lt) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63145.msg1246696#msg1246696
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2016, 09:58:15 pm »
Love spending 3.5 days during deckbuilding trying to counter this specific deck. 

Gratz to air on winning war, this war was designed for u guys to win. Best of luck to you guys, but honestly you won't need it.

This will be the last war I participate in with shards.

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Re: (Air Gen) Afdarenty 3-0 blrawen (Aether Lt) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63145.msg1246697#msg1246697
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2016, 10:05:55 pm »
Love spending 3.5 days during deckbuilding trying to counter this specific deck. 

Gratz to air on winning war, this war was designed for u guys to win. Best of luck to you guys, but honestly you won't need it.

This will be the last war I participate in with shards.
That deck got an average ttw of 8.5. You must have some deck that is faster than that? your bow maybe?
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Re: (Air Gen) Afdarenty 3-0 blrawen (Aether Lt) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63145.msg1246698#msg1246698
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2016, 10:07:24 pm »
in testing, it wins in 5. And there are a lot of variations of this deck

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Re: (Air Gen) Afdarenty 3-0 blrawen (Aether Lt) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63145.msg1246700#msg1246700
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No point participating in a war not designed for you to win? Makes sense

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Re: (Air Gen) Afdarenty 3-0 blrawen (Aether Lt) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63145.msg1246703#msg1246703
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2016, 10:17:05 pm »
No point participating in a war not designed for you to win? Makes sense

I take pride in being able to come up with a counter for any deck that teams could send to us. The only way to beat this deck and its variation in a bo5 is by RNG. I made a handful of decks that were 50/50 vs monoair sofree, but there are no counters for aether against this deck.

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Re: (Air Gen) Afdarenty 3-0 blrawen (Aether Lt) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63145.msg1246704#msg1246704
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Great games, really fun, always one turn or 2 away, but sofree hates me apparently  :P

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Re: (Air Gen) Afdarenty 3-0 blrawen (Aether Lt) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63145.msg1246705#msg1246705
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2016, 10:20:27 pm »
We were trying to counter the same deck last round. Unfortunately other teams get into a tougher spot a little faster. I'm wondering if you'd rather general for a not-top-4 shardless war team in shardless war over aether for sharded war

As an aside, this is a pretty good example given it's half upgraded Air with sofr. I recall as a WM you were talking about balancing war by giving more upgrades because as decks become more upgraded matchups become more coin flippy
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Re: (Air Gen) Afdarenty 3-0 blrawen (Aether Lt) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63145.msg1246706#msg1246706
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I will say that this is the second time I've played blrawen this War, and both times he's played really well. Good job! Keep it up.

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Re: (Air Gen) Afdarenty 3-0 blrawen (Aether Lt) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63145.msg1246708#msg1246708
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2016, 10:28:29 pm »
I'm wondering if you'd rather general for a not-top-4 shardless war team in shardless war over aether for sharded war



Yes, actually. Hain and I discussed many wars ago the possibility of joining gravy trials and leading gravity to a war win and showing everyone that gravity isn't weak. Light almost (should have) won a shardless war also.

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Re: (Air Gen) Afdarenty 3-0 blrawen (Aether Lt) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63145.msg1246711#msg1246711
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2016, 10:37:43 pm »
in testing, it wins in 5. And there are a lot of variations of this deck
The deck simulator is a bit tricky to use, 8.5 ttw was wrong. With a deck vs pillars it does 7.1 ttw which i super fast since a player can make it slightly quicker. Probably produces lots of 5 ttws. Aethers power has never been it's speed but it's power to protect itself and avoid things. So I guess this deck uses that weakness which makes it hard for you to counter. Only way to beat it is a faster deck or mass CC. So I get your concern. But that is only true if the deck is played by a Gen or Lt. Otherwise you should be able to counter it fairly well. 
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