Why Atheism?

[991woot119]

All you really have to do to get to heaven is accept jeasus into your heart you dnt have to praise god every day even if you save the world you won't get into heaven you just have to accept jeasus into your heart.
God can forgive everything if you ask him to.
Hell is made for the followers of the devil (the people who sin) and you dont have to go there even if you destroy the world as long as you ask for forgiveness from god.

what kind of god would do that? He'd torture you eternally just because you didn't believe something for which there was no evidence, also hitler was a christian, did he go to heaven? IF you've been told he's an atheist here's a quote from mein kompf "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.."

Since he broke the ten commandments and didnt ask for forgiveness because he thought he was doing the right thing he will go to hell since God can forgive anything if he asked to be forgived and stopped killing jews then he might've gone to heaven

[991woot119]

If he believed that he was acting for the good of the world, then he would be forgiven. There is no proof that Hitler didn't go to heaven, because there's no proof that there is not a heaven. All that you need is belief. If there is nothing to believe in, then life is simply black and white, with a beginning and an end. There would be no purpose to life if there is nothing before it or after it.

I actually find the idea that "if I don't believe in an afterlife then my life is meaningless" borderline offensive.  It also doesn't make any real sense. Basically there are 2 ways to look at it:

1) I believe in an eternal afterlife. Therefore, I have 100 years in this life and an eternity in another.

2) I don't believe in an eternal afterlife. Therefore, I have 100 years in this life and that's it.

It seems to me like when those 100 years are all you have, they become incredibly more precious. Lets just look at how these two attitudes translate.

1) Who cares about this life? After all, I have an eternally long one coming after, so why care about this one?

2) This life is all there is, so I'd better make sure I live it to the fullest.

I argue that the idea of an afterlife actually cheapens this one.

lets look at how hey translate from a different angle: your about 8 and your parents die

1) When my parents die they will be at a better place then this, so I shouldn't worry too much.
*Lives a happy life eager to meat his/her family in heaven*

2) WHY DID THEY DIE! NOW I'LL NEVER SEE THEM AGAIN! *cries*.
*Lives a life sad and depressed and probably would want to commit suicide*

[xdude]

If he believed that he was acting for the good of the world, then he would be forgiven. There is no proof that Hitler didn't go to heaven, because there's no proof that there is not a heaven. All that you need is belief. If there is nothing to believe in, then life is simply black and white, with a beginning and an end. There would be no purpose to life if there is nothing before it or after it.

I actually find the idea that "if I don't believe in an afterlife then my life is meaningless" borderline offensive.  It also doesn't make any real sense. Basically there are 2 ways to look at it:

1) I believe in an eternal afterlife. Therefore, I have 100 years in this life and an eternity in another.

2) I don't believe in an eternal afterlife. Therefore, I have 100 years in this life and that's it.

It seems to me like when those 100 years are all you have, they become incredibly more precious. Lets just look at how these two attitudes translate.

1) Who cares about this life? After all, I have an eternally long one coming after, so why care about this one?

2) This life is all there is, so I'd better make sure I live it to the fullest.

I argue that the idea of an afterlife actually cheapens this one.

lets look at how hey translate from a different angle: your about 8 and your parents die

1) When my parents die they will be at a better place then this, so I shouldn't worry too much.
*Lives a happy life eager to meat his/her family in heaven*

2) WHY DID THEY DIE! NOW I'LL NEVER SEE THEM AGAIN! *cries*.
*Lives a life sad and depressed and probably would want to commit suicide*

Lol. Yeah, it's all cool, my parents are dead, but hey, who cares? Also, I bet people don't mind if I kill lots of other people, they'll meet their families in heaven too. After that, I can go to church and all my sins will be forgiven and I'll go to heaven... Yay!

[ArtCrusade]

So I've always wondered. Why believe that when you die you stop existing? I don't see how anyone could accept that and be able to live happily, knowing that it's basically like you aren't even living at all. If you stop existing, then what was even the point?

I sense a big emptyness in you, Demagog.

Atheism is no question, no decision. There is no question for why someone is atheistic, because the only real answer is "because I don't believe in any god".

The question should be "why do you want to know why someone is atheistic?"

[theloconate]

All you really have to do to get to heaven is accept jeasus into your heart you dnt have to praise god every day even if you save the world you won't get into heaven you just have to accept jeasus into your heart.
God can forgive everything if you ask him to.
Hell is made for the followers of the devil (the people who sin) and you dont have to go there even if you destroy the world as long as you ask for forgiveness from god.

what kind of god would do that? He'd torture you eternally just because you didn't believe something for which there was no evidence, also hitler was a christian, did he go to heaven? IF you've been told he's an atheist here's a quote from mein kompf "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.."

Since he broke the ten commandments and didnt ask for forgiveness because he thought he was doing the right thing he will go to hell since God can forgive anything if he asked to be forgived and stopped killing jews then he might've gone to heaven

How did he break the ten commandments? he didn't kill anyone directly, so technically he didn't break the ten commandments. not to mention, do you take the entire bible literally? there are plenty of atrocities in the bible that im sure you would try to explain away (here's a big list of them http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/atrocity.html (http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/atrocity.html)) if you choose to explain away any of these then my next question is how do you know which parts of the bible are true literally and which aren't?

[QuantumT]

lets look at how hey translate from a different angle: your about 8 and your parents die

1) When my parents die they will be at a better place then this, so I shouldn't worry too much.
*Lives a happy life eager to meat his/her family in heaven*

2) WHY DID THEY DIE! NOW I'LL NEVER SEE THEM AGAIN! *cries*.
*Lives a life sad and depressed and probably would want to commit suicide*

So you basically claim that heaven is good because it allows me to indulge in escapism? You could replace heaven with alcoholism and your argument would remain exactly the same.

It also has exactly the problem I've been saying this whole time that now the child will spend this whole life worried about the next one.

[991woot119]

All you really have to do to get to heaven is accept jeasus into your heart you dnt have to praise god every day even if you save the world you won't get into heaven you just have to accept jeasus into your heart.
God can forgive everything if you ask him to.
Hell is made for the followers of the devil (the people who sin) and you dont have to go there even if you destroy the world as long as you ask for forgiveness from god.

what kind of god would do that? He'd torture you eternally just because you didn't believe something for which there was no evidence, also hitler was a christian, did he go to heaven? IF you've been told he's an atheist here's a quote from mein kompf "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.."

Since he broke the ten commandments and didnt ask for forgiveness because he thought he was doing the right thing he will go to hell since God can forgive anything if he asked to be forgived and stopped killing jews then he might've gone to heaven

How did he break the ten commandments? he didn't kill anyone directly, so technically he didn't break the ten commandments. not to mention, do you take the entire bible literally? there are plenty of atrocities in the bible that im sure you would try to explain away (here's a big list of them http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/atrocity.html (http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/atrocity.html)) if you choose to explain away any of these then my next question is how do you know which parts of the bible are true literally and which aren't?

Well I know because some parts of the bible have real evidence that some of it happened like how they found chariots at the bottom of the red sea

[geekz_always_win]

Really, I find that it's fun to believe in God. Or some deity.

There are always some things you can't explain, like how the very first life came onto Earth. Somebody HAD to make that one bacteria/microorganism.
Religion is simply an answer people taught themselves in the old days when life was archaic and people weren't as scientifically aware. It really served as faith and helped many good people achieve their goals. So when we prove the big bang and evolution, we're just supposed to drop all of it? I don't believe in abolishing or denying evolution like the school board in Kansas, but I really think that religion has become a custom, something that's just celebrated and accepted. It doesn't matter if it's proven wrong, you can still believe in it. It would have been such a upheaval and would have destroyed our culture if all the scientists said, "Hey, Christianity has been disproved, so STFU with the Old Testament." Just accept it. And if you don't like it, fine. More people will still practice it.

Religions don't have to agree either. If you believe that when you commit jihad you will go to heaven with lots of virgins to sleep with, that's fine. Just nobody said they were all female virgins. 

[MrMojo]

http://godisimaginary.com/

That site is incredible.

[theloconate]

Well I know because some parts of the bible have real evidence that some of it happened like how they found chariots at the bottom of the red sea

You simply ignored part of my post. secoond of all as far as i am aware the evidence ffor that part of the bible that creationists present is that they found a chariots wheel. that's what is called leading the evidence you're making the evidence fit to your favorite hypothesis instead offollowing the totally of evidence to the correct conclusion

There are always some things you can't explain, like how the very first life came onto Earth. Somebody HAD to make that one bacteria/microorganism.
Religion is simply an answer people taught themselves in the old days when life was archaic and people weren't as scientifically aware. It really served as faith and helped many good people achieve their goals. So when we prove the big bang and evolution, we're just supposed to drop all of it? I don't believe in abolishing or denying evolution like the school board in Kansas, but I really think that religion has become a custom, something that's just celebrated and accepted. It doesn't matter if it's proven wrong, you can still believe in it. It would have been such a upheaval and would have destroyed our culture if all the scientists said, "Hey, Christianity has been disproved, so STFU with the Old Testament." Just accept it. And if you don't like it, fine. More people will still practice it.

First of all we do have hypothesises about  how that happened. Second of all even if we didn't how is that evidence of god. How about instead of reforming your prejudices to explain away the evidence/theories how about you don't form an irrational belief with no evidence. of course you can still believe it, when did any atheist in this thread ever say they couldnt practice it? The problem is that you have these people who then turn and use their religion against minorities they have predgudices against like gays,

[nerd1]

in my opinion there is a god/gods, but even if there weren't, it wouldn't matter because our mind cant comprehend not existing anyways, so if we didn't exist it wouldn't matter to us because we wouldn't know that we didn't exist, get my logic?

[QuantumT]

in my opinion there is a god/gods, but even if there weren't, it wouldn't matter because our mind cant comprehend not existing anyways, so if we didn't exist it wouldn't matter to us because we wouldn't know that we didn't exist, get my logic?

I don't think comprehending not existing is very hard. I find that the people who have a hard time with this idea are the ones who have been told their whole lives that it isn't true.

And I don't really get the rest of that sentence.