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Re: The AI3 Farming Challenge http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1874.msg27856#msg27856
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2010, 04:49:34 PM »
This deck is really good to grind. But spend 45000 electrums making that deck is something worthy to farm L3??
Isn't better to use that amount of money to make and almost totally upgraded FG killer?

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Re: The AI3 Farming Challenge http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1874.msg27858#msg27858
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2010, 05:04:36 PM »
I agree. Also, read the first post. This is about UNUPGRADED decks.

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Re: The AI3 Farming Challenge http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1874.msg27860#msg27860
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2010, 05:20:25 PM »
hmm i use fire deck that wins bout 99% of time but i cant post it ;)

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Re: The AI3 Farming Challenge http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1874.msg27861#msg27861
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2010, 05:21:34 PM »
@-Phiryos-
Oh, totally forgot that too.

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Why you can't?

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I'm thinking that I spend ~1400 electrums for nothing T_T.
That mono-dark deck can make a mastery, but it seems to not win so often... in one of my games I only had three Devouers in field (one was killed) and eigth cards in the deck, six Black Dragons and the other two Devouers. Seriously, what shuffle was that?? I was unable to do damage for almost the entire game.

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Re: The AI3 Farming Challenge http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1874.msg27867#msg27867
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2010, 05:48:05 PM »
I agree. Also, read the first post. This is about UNUPGRADED decks.
Alright, did not see that, sorry @ the OP. I still think, however, that the deck has its legitimacy, because it is, as I said, the fastest way to get score points in the game. So, it's definitely not a deck for newer players to get money fast (it was probably silkenfists intention to find the best deck for that purpose), but if you already have your fully-upgraded godkiller and tons of money and would like to get into Top 50, this is the best choice.
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Re: The AI3 Farming Challenge http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1874.msg31779#msg31779
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2010, 04:37:34 AM »
Deckbuilding 101: Life (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1190.0.html#post_life)

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5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bu 5bu 5bu 5bu 5bu 5bu 5c0 5c0 5c0 5c0 5c0 5c0 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7Cost of the deck, if you have none of the cards and the wrong mark: 838 EC
Cost for me, who had 4 adrenaline already: 606 EC

Results:

Wins: 67
Losses: 1
Score gain: 1064
EC gain: 1143
Cards won: 24 (what those were is left as an exercise for the reader)
beforeafter
 

Opponents:
36 card :air .......
37 card :death ......
38 card :air .
38 card :fire ........
38 card :light ...
40 card :entropy ..
40 card :gravity ....
40 card :time ........
40 card :water ...........
44 card :time .......
45 card :death ......
58 card :life .....


Comments:
I did one 30 minute session and one 60 minute session. Total should be 90 1 minutes. I did 20 minutes worth of practice runs first as well, as I had only done a few games in the trainer before.
The one loss was the very first game, against a ridiculously lucky 40 card :time deck. Its first two creatures where fate eggs, which turned into a crimson dragon and a stone dragon, respectively. Dead by turn 6.

There were a couple of close calls as well. First was the 38 card :fire / :death / :darkness deck, with a turn 4 fire shield. Managed to win by adrenalining my last remaining cockatrice, even though that's usually a bad move when facing fire shield or infection.

The other one was against Emerald Nova (58 card :life / rainbow), where it got a much better start than me. A 12/12 forest spirit by turn 8, meaning its one blessing and water quanta to grow 4 of the 6 turns, with a dragon to go along. Finished the game with 2 hp.


Keeping in mind that I'm generally slow, someone else could most likely get another 5-10 games in. I also took an SS just after the coin flip, to get deck size and mark of the opponent, which took maybe a second extra in the games where I went first.
I have all the opening hands still saved. I was considering putting them together and uploading them, but it's just too much work. There were all kinds of hands though, from 6 pillar to 1 etc.
As can be seen from the list of opponents, I mostly got the annoying ones (time, water) and the ones that really kill this deck (infections, fire shields). I mostly avoided the discords, though I had a few more in the practice run. It handled everything exceptionally well still.


[edit] Added import code. [/edit]

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Re: The AI3 Farming Challenge http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1874.msg31783#msg31783
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2010, 04:46:55 AM »
I ran the same deck Delreich used with the following results:

Wins: 73
Losses: 2
Electrum: 1169

No cards won, because I didn't use spins. I wanted to maximize speed to see just how many matches I could play in 90 minutes. Not bad for completely unupped.

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Re: The AI3 Farming Challenge http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1874.msg32571#msg32571
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2010, 01:18:22 PM »
Koranuso-style grabbies

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4t4 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58p 58p 590 590 590 590 590 590 591 591 591 591 591 591Cost of the deck, if you have none of the cards and the wrong mark: 1011 EC
Cost for me, who had much of it already: 380 EC

Results:

Wins: 65
Losses: 3
Score gain: 1013
EC gain: 1088 (oracle gave me 150 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,3467.msg36893#msg36893))
Cards won: 28
1 Chaos Seed
3 Vulture
1 Skull Shield
1 Boneyard
1 Poison
1 Emerald Shield
1 Druidic Staff (third, first non-t50)
1 Ash Eater
1 Chrysaora
1 Freeze
1 Photon
1 Pegasus
2 Guardian Angel
1 Blessing
1 Miracle
4 Firefly Queen
1 Reverse Time
1 Parasite
4 Spark
Opponents:
36 card :air .......
37 card :death .......
38 card :air ....
38 card :fire ....
38 card :light ........
40 card :entropy ...
40 card :gravity .......
40 card :time ....
40 card :water ......
44 card :time .....
45 card :death ........
58 card :life ....
(missing one)

Comments:
I did 60+30 minutes this time. Total should be 90 1 minutes this time as well. Was a bit luckier with the spin this time, but it's not like that has anything to do with the deck.
One loss was due to horrible draw, one to an early owl's eye and one that could maybe have been avoided if I hadn't missed evolving a graboid was to a time deck.
Over all, this deck is less consistent than the life deck. It's also more vulnerable to reverse time and devourers' quanta drain. Still quite quick, but I liked the Life deck better.


[edit] Doh! The weapon was a short sword, not a dagger. Cost calculation was correct, the image is correct now...
Added import code as well. [/edit]

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Re: The AI3 Farming Challenge http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1874.msg32580#msg32580
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2010, 01:51:44 PM »
I agree. Life it' just as fast, but a bit more "solid" and way cheaper than Shrieker. (Tested it for some time)

As with the Shrieker's Deck, an early Discord (or multiple Devourers) can be your downfall.

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Re: The AI3 Farming Challenge http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1874.msg33291#msg33291
« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2010, 01:20:40 PM »


Start
Won:557 Lost:93 Electrum:2116

Finish
Won:646 Lost:94 Electrum:3344

After 1 hour 30 minutes
89 Wins, 1 Loss, 1228 Electrum
I was skipping the spins when I won.

It's possible I may have just had the best 90 minutes of my Elements career.  Anyone care to test it themselves?  If I get can get some independant confirmation that this deck really can average 1 minute per game against level 3 Elders I'd like to start a thread for it.  (I'd also be pretty happy with myself)  : )

Edit:  Here (http://elementsthegame.wikia.com/wiki/No-Land_Stompy) is a similar deck that somebody showed me from the wiki.  Oh well, I never saw that before so I still came up with mine on my own.

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Re: The AI3 Farming Challenge http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1874.msg33329#msg33329
« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2010, 03:19:05 PM »
Seems nice, but... What's the mark? Earth I suppose?

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Re: The AI3 Farming Challenge http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1874.msg33488#msg33488
« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2010, 08:41:17 PM »
Wow o.o
1 game per minute o.o
Really good, I will test it.
I'll just change the Arsenic to a Morning Glory.

 

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