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New Elder proposal http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22102.msg282997#msg282997
« on: March 04, 2011, 11:02:12 AM »
I was thinking Elders could use some more diversity. Ofcourse mixing in the "old" elders is an option but I wanted to add a totally new suggestion.
It's based on stalling, using one of the new (1.27) cards: Iridium Warden (?? in the deck image).
This Elder basically tries to stall with squids and warden's while the antlions and shriekers burrow for damage (yes I realise this will halve their damage, but AI does this). It also profits from the fact it can use it's trident ability.

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- Can use all the cards currently in the trainer
- It is not mandatory to use the new cards
- AI3 have to be fun to play against
- AI3 have to be challenging and have a well developed strategy that the AI can use
- Add lots of variety to the deck (no 6 of this, 6 of that, 12 pillars)
- Max 3 rare cards per deck (at least 1 rare per deck would be best)
- Can be mono, duo, trio rainbow and anything in between
- Can not choose mark. The mark is automatically set to be the mark of the most used element in the deck

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Re: New Elder proposal http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22102.msg283485#msg283485
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2011, 01:09:05 AM »
I don't see the point of the nymph tears, summoning water nymphs won't do anything to help the stall.
You're just as selfish as I am. You're just not as good at it yet.

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Re: New Elder proposal http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22102.msg283487#msg283487
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2011, 01:15:14 AM »
Mmm, I think it's the wrong section.
Anyways, add some plate armors into the deck

I'd change the mark to water and pendulums to earth
replace titaniums with ice shields
and the antlions with plate armors

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Re: New Elder proposal http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22102.msg286545#msg286545
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2011, 11:51:02 PM »
IMO, I think you might need to replace the nymph tears with ice bolts... The :water quanta might add up

Re: New Elder proposal http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22102.msg286558#msg286558
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2011, 12:06:43 AM »
I don't see the point of the nymph tears, summoning water nymphs won't do anything to help the stall.
Water Nymphs work by removing the opponent's quanta generators. Since most nymphs have a smaller attack than what the shield blocks, and their quanta generators cannot provide enough to fuel nymph spells, they now have a semi-useless lump of meat on their side XP

That is, if the AI knows how to do that?

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Re: New Elder proposal http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22102.msg286575#msg286575
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2011, 12:24:08 AM »
We need an Elder with Eternity.

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Re: New Elder proposal http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22102.msg286734#msg286734
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2011, 03:54:33 AM »
I don't see the point of the nymph tears, summoning water nymphs won't do anything to help the stall.
Water Nymphs work by removing the opponent's quanta generators. Since most nymphs have a smaller attack than what the shield blocks, and their quanta generators cannot provide enough to fuel nymph spells, they now have a semi-useless lump of meat on their side XP

That is, if the AI knows how to do that?
It doesn't (and it would be extremely hard to both make it able to do that because doing so is usually extremely situational).

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Re: New Elder proposal http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22102.msg287219#msg287219
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2011, 12:52:24 AM »
I think it would be great, if the Elders displayed ALL rares (except Shards). Decks with Trident and Eternity are really what we need  ;)

Re: New Elder proposal http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22102.msg287244#msg287244
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2011, 01:12:29 AM »
I don't see the point of the nymph tears, summoning water nymphs won't do anything to help the stall.
Water Nymphs work by removing the opponent's quanta generators. Since most nymphs have a smaller attack than what the shield blocks, and their quanta generators cannot provide enough to fuel nymph spells, they now have a semi-useless lump of meat on their side XP

That is, if the AI knows how to do that?
It doesn't (and it would be extremely hard to both make it able to do that because doing so is usually extremely situational).
Yeah, I tested it too ><

I don't think it would be too hard; when the number of water nymphs reach a certain point on the AI's side, it starts attacking the opponent's pillars?

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Re: New Elder proposal http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22102.msg345562#msg345562
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2011, 09:02:17 PM »
I don't see the point of the nymph tears, summoning water nymphs won't do anything to help the stall.
Water Nymphs work by removing the opponent's quanta generators. Since most nymphs have a smaller attack than what the shield blocks, and their quanta generators cannot provide enough to fuel nymph spells, they now have a semi-useless lump of meat on their side XP

That is, if the AI knows how to do that?
i dont think the ai is smart enough to do that

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Re: New Elder proposal http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22102.msg345602#msg345602
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2011, 10:59:29 PM »
Since it's an Elder, which cards are upped?
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Re: New Elder proposal http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22102.msg345615#msg345615
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2011, 11:28:16 PM »
Since it's an Elder, which cards are upped?
Since it's an Elder, there are no upped cards :P

 

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