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Opponents, Strategy and Decks => Random, Normal and Elder => Topic started by: LongDono on January 06, 2011, 01:06:50 am
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Well I did not think that a grabbix deck with 5 upped cards could pull this off but I stand corrected. ( here is the grabbix deck http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16828.0.html )
Note: This is prolly not possible with a fully unupped deck.
(http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae299/JakeLongTAD/4turnkill.jpg)and
(http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae299/JakeLongTAD/4turnkillpart2.jpg)Now if anyone doubts what I say I am sure you can figure things out if you look close enough.
Odds are I am prolly playing a 30 card deck and I am.
Go look the the elders deck that I am playing and count the cards played, ect.... and you will know what turn it is. ;)
Anyways I almost hit space bar and then figured out that it was only turn 4 and I was like, WOW! Took a screen shot and decided to share.
Will post deck soon. I have to log back on to elements and get the deck code.
Ok here is the deck.
4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 55q 590 5c1 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 6rk 77g 77g 77g 77g
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With this exact deck unupped, I suspect that it is not possible. However, by changing that Longsword to a Hammer, going second and assuming your opponent does not hinder you in the slightest, it is possible to inflict exactly 100 damage with this set up:
Hand: 1 Graboid, 1 Hammer, 1 Photon, 1 Phoenix, 1 Immolation, 1 Lycanthrope, 2 Nova.
Turn 1: Play Photon, Immolate it. Play 2 Nova. Play Phoenix, Graboid, Hammer, and Lycan (Hammer absorbs 2 :air). 12 damage inflicted, 88HP Remaining.
Turn 2: Draw Forest Spirit. Play Forest Spirit. Evolve Graboid, activate Lycan's ability. 26 Damage inflicted, 62HP remaining.
Turn 3: Draw Photon. Play Photon. Grow Forest Spirit. 29 Damage inflicted, 33 HP remaining.
Turn 4: Draw Graboid (:earth Mark comes in handy here). Play Graboid. Grow Forest Spirit. 33 Damage inflicted, 0HP remaining.
Despite that setup, I have yet to encounter an unupped deck during testing that can pull off a 4 turn win, so your deck may as well be the closest way to do it with realistic consistency :)
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Ok so it is possible for an unupped deck but it would be so insanely rare it's not even funny, but even with the deck I posted a 4 turn kill is still insanely rare. I should prolly make the Long Sword into a gavel but I don't feel like upping it, though that should make it more possible to pull it off.
After upping the Graboids and the weapon I think there is nothing left that can add speed to the deck if you upgrade it. So with 4-5 upgrades you can have one of the best AI 3 grinders around. ( Note: It is worth upping the immolations because you wont need a nova or another immolation to revive a Pheonix, and you can tech 1 deflag if they are all upped. )
Honestly I take almost no credit for this deck, I could not have made it without seeing the Grabbix deck unupped. Only thing I can take credit for is finding that it is possible to do a 4 turn kill with it. :)) Though I am sure if anyone wanted to they could have tried this and figured it out. If I can repeat this within the next 100 games I will post it, though I will upgrade the last graboid just to raise the chances of me pulling it off again and I think I will add a gavel and take out a long sword. it will cost one more quanta but if you play it last in the turn and don't mindlessly play novas and immolations then it should not be a big issue.
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Well time to eat my words, it is not insanely rare. I played I think less than 50 games and 1 game I played I should have gotten the 4 turn kill but they played a heal, but fear not, 2 games later I pulled it off with only 1 more upped card ( elite graboid ) and changed the long sword into a gavel.
Screen shots..... Ps I think I went second.
(http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae299/JakeLongTAD/4turnkillagain.jpg)and
(http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae299/JakeLongTAD/4turnkilagain2.jpg)The deck is the same as in the first post but only 2 changes.
1. Graboid is not elite graboid
2. Long sword is now Gavel.
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Fastest i can get right now was turn 5 - 58 sec game
4vh 4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 590 590 590 590 590 5c1 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 8pm
had 3 immo lates in hand or it would have been faster =/ at end of game
just now a turn 5 - 53 sec game dont think i can get much faster unless i draw one extra imo
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i had some 4 turn kills vs AI3 with the lava golem rush deck (only a few upped)
now that i have it allmost fully upped i got a 3 turns kill :D
(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/8356/3turnselements.png)4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 5f6 5f6 5fb 5og 6rn 6u3 77e 77e 77e 7dh 7dh 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7ds 7ds 7ds 7tb