Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic]

[willng3]

Is that really Limitless Speed?

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Where'd you get the sancs?

Second/third deck in the original post.

[andretimpa]

Is that really Limitless Speed?

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Where'd you get the sancs?

Second/third deck in the original post.

It's the second one fully upped. My go to deck when the oracle gives me Paradox. But Forest Spirit pet is OP

[AD TienzuStorm]

Which version is the best to use? The comments say the fatter versions, while Chapuz says that the slimmer one is the preferred version.

[Chapuz]

Which version is the best to use? The comments say the fatter versions, while Chapuz says that the slimmer one is the preferred version.

Try the fatty one. If you feel you tend to need more shields early than what you do, reduce some cards and try the slim one

[Arseface]

I've been toying around with using dials for stall in place of some of the dim shields. The results so far have been great. I've been significantly less stressed using this setup. There have been a lot less "god I hope I get a shield", and "I need to drop all these shields" moments.

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Since the deck costs a considerable 12 less  and 8 less  , I was able to slim the quanta sources a lot.
I'm not sure this is the right amount of cards, but I stuck with this since I know your stall:deck size ratios are well tested. I used the 3 extra slots for 2 sanctuaries(EMs and poison soak) and an hourglass(since I no longer use the  on dials).

It still has 18 turns of stall. 6 from dials and 12 from dims.
The benefit of dials is
a) They're cheap, so unlucky early quantum rolls are less of an issue and you need less  total by deck end
b) The AI loves stealing them, and they work while stolen
c) They double as a acceleration using a quanta type you're producing excess in already
d) You get a boatload of them, meaning less bad draws
e) They only last a turn, meaning less hand hogging

My dials are only recently upgraded. I started with the following layout to farm them.

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This works about as well as the standard slim deck as far as I can tell, but I've considerably less than 100 games with either so don't hold me to it. There's probably some tuning that could be done. Possibly -2 dials, +1 dim, and +1 light pendulum. Biggest plus side, only 3 upped cards!

[Ghaladh]

I am loving this deck! Sometimes I lose against easy FG just because of bad luck with starting hand and successive drawings, but I get an incredible amount of EM. I played for a few hours and by selling the cards I win, I was able to upgrade some of those. Here is my current situation  .

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As you can see, I added one more Electrum Hourglass, to increase the probability to get one ASAP. I am a newbie and I started with a little more than 1000 coins (I invested almost all of my savings to upgrade the Light Dragon and the Rage Elixirs) and in a couple of hours I was able to update all of the other upped cards you see in the deck.

Thanks for sharing 

[Chapuz]

The original one has 6 houglasses , 3 upgraded and 3 unupgraded ones 

[Ghaladh]

The original one has 6 houglasses , 3 upgraded and 3 unupgraded ones 

I feel that 4 are all I need. Today I am on vacation, so I spent a few hours farming FG. That's my current deck. 

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I personalized it just a little bit, the better meet my exigences. I have a 100% win rate against almost all of the FG you listed in the first post. I am also able to put down, occasionally, Dream Catcher if I get the Electrocutor within the first 6 rounds. I still have problems facing Hecate and Decay because of their Steals that put me often in awkward situations, but I beat them 80% of the times.

I wonder which tweaks can be applied, if there are any, to successfully fight the FG that are still unbeatable by this deck. What about adding 6 Cloaks to protect yourself from Deflag, Steal or EQ? I guess there is no deck able to give a fighting change against all of the FG.

[Ginyu]

I wonder which tweaks can be applied, if there are any, to successfully fight the FG that are still unbeatable by this deck. What about adding 6 Cloaks to protect yourself from Deflag, Steal or EQ? I guess there is no deck able to give a fighting change against all of the FG.

They wouldn't help. The Gods can simply steal/destroy the cloaks and use their remaining PC on whatever you might have. Also, 6 of these will clutter up your draw and make the deck much more inconsistent, reducing your chances to win against the "easy" FGs.

There were decks that tried to beat most of them somehow, but they weren't that consistent in beating specific Gods. An example to this is ScaredGirls FG-Rainbow.

[Ghaladh]

I wonder which tweaks can be applied, if there are any, to successfully fight the FG that are still unbeatable by this deck. What about adding 6 Cloaks to protect yourself from Deflag, Steal or EQ? I guess there is no deck able to give a fighting change against all of the FG.

They wouldn't help. The Gods can simply steal/destroy the cloaks and use their remaining PC on whatever you might have. Also, 6 of these will clutter up your draw and make the deck much more inconsistent, reducing your chances to win against the "easy" FGs.

There were decks that tried to beat most of them somehow, but they weren't that consistent in beating specific Gods. An example to this is ScaredGirls FG-Rainbow.

Here lies the greatness of this game: there is no invincible strategy.  To each tactic there is a counter-tactic, each strength is accompanied by a weakness.

[Lastmerlin]

First of all, chapeau to Chapuz for creating this deck. Your decks are truly the best thing you can use against FG when you have little money and few rares.

I used it quite a while and it won me lots of cards and upgraded itself over time. I also made some statistics, what card was missing this time (the deck is somewhat prone to enraging bad draws) when I lost and tried to optimize accordingly. I want to share the result:

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Some comments:
- I found that the fattier decks diluted the dimshield chain too much, but the slim version is just too fragile. Hence this is a compromise between the slim the fat version.
- Three hourglasses are even for the slim version too few. I used four here, because this balanced the *death by missing hourglass* against other reasons of failure.
- Two sancs are sufficient. I experienced that the fat versions have far too much sancs and no quanta to play them all. In my opinion, you should not try to outheal the FG damage (even with 6 sancs often impossible), but just buy a few more turns before playing the shields and possibly get an EM. Two in deck and often playing only one is enough for this purpose.
- Two purify: I believe I haven't seen anyone proposing a second purify, but its immensely useful. Against the poison gods this really saves you (while 1 purify often hides and lets you die) and against the other, this complements the healing by the sanctuaries (and does not use the light quanta in contrast to the sanc)
- I took two towers out after upgrading, so put 2 back in for unupped
- I had three light pendulums before upgrading. Two pends now means not to play sanc if the come really late. The benefit is a smaller deck, that gives the real key cards faster.

[Pkmn31337]

Just leaving the info that the slim version is far from 100% win. 100% em against miracle.