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CCYB meets CHMD Anti-FG https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13965.msg176330#msg176330
« on: October 14, 2010, 06:01:22 pm »
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So I've been bouncing back and forth with different variants of both CCYB (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,9545.0.html) and CHMD (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11062.0.html) and had the idea of combining the multiple draws of CHMD with the Lava Destroyer power of CCYB.  The deck seems to play pretty fast (thanks to CHMD) and you need to be pretty aggressive with getting out Lava Destroyers (as per CCYB).  Also be careful about drawing too much -- there's no Eternity in this deck.

I've only played about 15 games so far, and it seems that you beat the easy FGs (and usually EM them), while you lose to FGs with heavy permanent control.  However, it's way too soon to tell with so few games in the sample size.  I'll post some statistics whenever I get to 100 games with this deck.

I appreciate any constructive comments.

Thanks for looking.
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Re: CCYB meets CHMD Anti-FG https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13965.msg176353#msg176353
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2010, 06:45:16 pm »
Why the fractal? I mean, you probably won't have enough quanta to fractal the destroyers... Or is this, to copy some of your enemis smaller creatures, in case you don't draw a Destroyer? And aren't 4 Shields maybe a bit much? You have 4 Hourglasses, I think the chances to draw one with 3 Shields would be enough... maybe take out one Permafrost or the Fog and put in a creature for 2 quanta for the Fractal?
And is it fast enough with no single Supernova in it?

Just my thoughts about the deck.. Looks pretty nice overall.

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Re: CCYB meets CHMD Anti-FG https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13965.msg176401#msg176401
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2010, 07:36:22 pm »
Why the fractal? I mean, you probably won't have enough quanta to fractal the destroyers... Or is this, to copy some of your enemis smaller creatures, in case you don't draw a Destroyer? And aren't 4 Shields maybe a bit much? You have 4 Hourglasses, I think the chances to draw one with 3 Shields would be enough... maybe take out one Permafrost or the Fog and put in a creature for 2 quanta for the Fractal?
And is it fast enough with no single Supernova in it?

Just my thoughts about the deck.. Looks pretty nice overall.
With 11 Quantum Towers, you usually have a decent pile of quanta in the end game to fractal something on the field and provide a boost to bone shield breaking or extra "finishing" damage.

Without SuperNovas to power up Permafrost shields quickly, I find that I "stair step" my way up the shield ladder.  Also, 4 shields usually helps with the stalling at the start of the match and provide some backup if I get hit with permanent control.

The 4 Hourglasses really helps increase the chance of getting 1 Hourglass in the first 10 cards, by which time you will have enough Time quanta to play it.  Plus, it helps with permanent control because you can keep throwing out Hourglasses to be targeted by the FGs.

As far as fast -- I think it's more consistent than a SuperNova-based deck.  You will draw quicker to compensate for the lack of instant quantum, and you get the ongoing generation of quanta from the Quantum Towers.  I did try powering it the other way (Entropy mark, 7 Quantum Towers, 6 SuperNovas) but I could not get enough reliable Time quanta to power the Hourglasses.

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Re: CCYB meets CHMD Anti-FG https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13965.msg277542#msg277542
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2011, 07:27:11 am »
Looks intersting, I'm going to test this in trainer.  Looking for a good Timebow and i kinda like CCYB (I'm just really looking for a variant to spice things up, if not changing to a timebow wholesale) so stumbling upon this was nice.  And on the note about Supernova, I would find Quantum Towers definitely more reliable in the long run.

NOTE: First run I made a decent discovery: Fog was completely ignored and instead one of my SoG were destroyed, so I think that it's a definite inclusion if i feel I need a "step" shield.
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Re: CCYB meets CHMD Anti-FG https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13965.msg277836#msg277836
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2011, 07:16:03 pm »
Glad to hear you find this deck interesting -- I haven't played this variant in a while, but in my opinion, switching out one of the Permafrost Shields for a Mirror Shield can help immensely with Octane and Decay, and provides you with at least a point of "non-destructable/stealable" stall against other FGs.  When I go with SuperNovas, I usually include a Jade Shield instead of the Mirror Shield.

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Re: CCYB meets CHMD Anti-FG https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13965.msg277843#msg277843
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2011, 07:22:24 pm »
Add Afla, if you can get it out early, it makes the game much easier for you. However, getting afla early could also mean disaster if you don't draw permafrost soon enough. Double edged sword.

Re: CCYB meets CHMD Anti-FG https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13965.msg277855#msg277855
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2011, 07:39:30 pm »
jade shield?

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Re: CCYB meets CHMD Anti-FG https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13965.msg277885#msg277885
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2011, 08:10:43 pm »
jade shield?
Glad to hear you find this deck interesting -- I haven't played this variant in a while, but in my opinion, switching out one of the Permafrost Shields for a Mirror Shield can help immensely with Octane and Decay, and provides you with at least a point of "non-destructable/stealable" stall against other FGs.  When I go with SuperNovas, I usually include a Jade Shield instead of the Mirror Shield.

 

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