HBGB, the Half-Blood Grabbow [AI4][unupped][rareless]

[ColorlessGreen]

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After 150 games in AI4, it's 81-69 (54%) with an average TTW of 10.73. Despite the relatively low win rate, it's fast (for unupped/rareless AI4 at least). According to my current understanding of the drop rates, it gets approximately 1.25 upped cards an hour (plus a sizable amount of money from selling random unupped cards and the wins themselves).

Honestly, playing this deck feels pretty much like playing AI3, except every so often you get a free 1150 electrum in addition to the steady money from the games themselves. Games are quick and easy, and most of the time when it loses, it loses fast - its main vulnerability is when the AI4 pulls out a really fast rush.

[omegareaper7]

Perhaps a steal in place of a deflag and blessing in place of sanctuary? How do you think that would effect the deck?

[ColorlessGreen]

Perhaps a steal in place of a deflag and blessing in place of sanctuary? How do you think that would effect the deck?

Regarding deflag->steal: Currently, the deck uses four and six . Switching to a steal is a possibility, but I'd probably want to switch at least one (if not both) of the lycans to something else to ease up on the dark quanta usage.

Regarding sanc->blessing: Sanctuary is actually a pretty ridiculously useful card in here. Approximately 1/6 of the AI4 decks can come with black hole, which would otherwise be a near auto-loss. Approximately 1/6 of the AI4 decks can also come with devs, which are nowhere near as crippling but still are quite annoying in the early game. I personally find those two protections to be of more use than an extra three damage. The healing has been a decisive factor in more than a few games, also, since the deck's main weakness right now is fast damage.

[Aknelo]

I know this is an old thread, but I just wanted to say I've been having a lot of fun playing with this deck you created.  I've been using it to farm AI3's and trying it out against AI4's.

You're right, it does have a relatively low win rate, but I still think it's a good deck and a lot of fun to play with.  There's so much you can do with it if you are careful with your strategies.  You can almost never predict how the game is going to go when you first start, and this deck has such a potential to turn things around either way (losing to winning or vice versa).

Thanks for posting it! 

[CrockettRocket]

reguarding the sanctuary vs blessing thing: 1  isnt too much when you have qt's as well sanct is much better for ai4s. The pvp servers are currently borking so I have been grinding ai4 a LOT as fast as possible. Ive found a lot of gravity users for ai4 use black hole. I definitly want sanctuary, and would be willing to go as far as including EA.

[Vashieve]

Heya ColourlessGreen. Thanks a lot for your deck. its helping me farm to build my own ^^.

I've been using it to farm AI4 following the Tutorial thread posted in the forums which recommend your deck.

What would you say to replacing Mummy with an Arsenic?

It makes the deck a little less vulnerable to creature control, and adds a bit of early damage before shields can get up, especially the poison.


An interesting thing to do with 3 Nova, 1 lightning, and 1 graboid. Is to all the novas, lightning the abnormality, and have a graboid out in turn 1, and get it to shieker by turn 2 for some quick damage .

First time I didnt know about the abnormality, I died a horrible death. lol

[inthisroom]

Hey. THanks a lot for your deck.

I've been using it to farm AI4 following the Tutorial thread posted in the forums which recommend your deck.

What would you say to replacing Mummy with an Arsenic?

It makes the deck a little less vulnerable to creature control, and adds a bit of early damage before shields can get up, especially the poison.

It would definitely be an option if you owned Arsenic, however, it wouldn't really fit the "rareless" theme.

[ColorlessGreen]

Hey. THanks a lot for your deck.

I've been using it to farm AI4 following the Tutorial thread posted in the forums which recommend your deck.

What would you say to replacing Mummy with an Arsenic?

It makes the deck a little less vulnerable to creature control, and adds a bit of early damage before shields can get up, especially the poison.

It would definitely be an option if you owned Arsenic, however, it wouldn't really fit the "rareless" theme.

Pretty much this. There is little to no reason not to swap out a mummy for an arsenic if you own one, I just didn't put it in the base deck in order to have the base deck accessible to anyone.

[CrockettRocket]

A mind flayer or the mummy vs a freeze? With qp's and novas you can power 2 mind flayers and a freeze. And easily power a freeze and 1 mind flayer.

[ColorlessGreen]

A mind flayer or the mummy vs a freeze? With qp's and novas you can power 2 mind flayers and a freeze. And easily power a freeze and 1 mind flayer.

I find mind flayer extremely useful, so drawing one more often than not is great. I also find mummy much more useful than an added freeze. AI4 isn't really great at getting many big creatures on the table, but frequently gets swarms of weak creatures with annoying abilities. However, there's loads of room for customization available, so if you find freeze works better for you than either of those options, give it a shot.

[CrockettRocket]

Yes, with so many cards coming into the game I find more and more total number of cards have abilities, weakening lucifrin, and strengthening mind  flayer+ lobo's effectivness against more and more decks. I love mind flayer, so personally (if I didnt have an upped deck thats the best tested ai4 killer thats been posted) I would take mummy out for freeze, mainly because its easier to get out.

[991woot119]

Is there something I'm missing with playing this deck? Because I win probably about 1/4 of my games in AI4 with this deck. I even frequently lose in AI2/3. It seems that I usually just don't have the resources/have too many resources for the deck to work well. On top of that the damage usually isn't enough to beat them before they bring out something bigger.

EDIT: I have continued using it for AI4 and it has gotten my score to an astonishing -158...

Has this deck been nerfed in a recent patch?