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Xoned

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg73741#msg73741
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2010, 02:46:39 am »
If you plan on running this unupped add in an extra fire tower and an SoG.
Start your phase sheilds at turn 18. So far I'm 10:7 with this deck with 7 EMs so if your starting out it's a great deck until you can afford a rainbow.

twinsbuster

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg73829#msg73829
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2010, 09:26:31 am »
I'm thinking of a variation about adding more creamation and sundial, but a larger deck size
then the chances of breaking phase shield chain can be greatly reduced
any comment about this?

darkhellion

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg75128#msg75128
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2010, 10:47:18 am »
Just adding some input to the deck. I went 2/2 as of right now with the false gods. Killed eldinis and ferox. Both times the damage was sort of cutting it close (about 10 extra damage)

I ran with

8 upgraded fire pillars
6 upgraded aether pillars (may cut this part down a tower or two)
3 SOG
6 DS (downgraded)
6 firebolts
1 reflective shield
1 nova

All in all it seems to work pretty decently. Though you seem to be more focused on doing it downgraded I would personally add like 6 upgraded sundials (no cost) and perhaps go the route of 1 photon + cremation rather then pheonix since most fg have creature control you dont want to get it rewinded or eaten since it hurts you a little more. Plus cremation also adds roughly 1 turn worth of mana to your pool also.

sinez

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg77583#msg77583
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2010, 09:10:30 pm »
i was able to build all but the weapon after getting a base fire deck, then i chalenged a halfblood (or maby an accidental false god, i think it gliched) and got him down to 2 hp on the last turn.

i didnt have the weapon, and it killed me. YOU NEED A SWORD. IF NOT FARENHITE THEN A DAGER!

schism

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg77736#msg77736
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2010, 12:14:28 am »
Thanks for posting this deck. After extremely mixed results with a mostly un-upped rainbow, this one has done the trick for me.

hello5666

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg77738#msg77738
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2010, 12:16:16 am »
It loooks better upgraded.

twinsbuster

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg78129#msg78129
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2010, 04:14:34 pm »
i was able to build all but the weapon after getting a base fire deck, then i chalenged a halfblood (or maby an accidental false god, i think it gliched) and got him down to 2 hp on the last turn.

i didnt have the weapon, and it killed me. YOU NEED A SWORD. IF NOT FARENHITE THEN A DAGER!
ya, FARENHITE helps when facing gods that won't heal
or some lighting if you don't have the weapon

DeathShrimp

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg78357#msg78357
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2010, 10:41:00 pm »
This deck sucks unupgraded in my oppinon.. (tested it for 20 games and all of them were losses) it means u have to hold out before the opponent kills your ass and this deck 100% relys on luck on drawings that u can get an early farenheit and starting with at least 2 shields on your hand and be lucky enough to draw at least 2 more within the next 10 turn or else the god you are facing is gona wtfpwn with his massive creaturestock most gods have the ability to get u down from 100-0 in one attack ide say this deck would just drain your wallet instead of filling it.. tho its cheap and prolly good (somehow) but i would not recomend doing this deck unupgraded then you have bigger chances with going fully fire with mark of time and 6 sundials

schism

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg78557#msg78557
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2010, 06:44:00 am »
I started using this deck totally unupped. It does get easier when you upgrade the shields and pillars but it works. Even when I draw no shields or Aether Pillars in the opening hand, I still win sometimes. Hold out on putting your first shield out as long as you can. If you can last five turns (not hard to do really) before you drop the first shield then the game is in the bag as long as your shield chain doesn't break. If you can last longer than five turns the chances of the chain breaking go down a bit. The win rate is very acceptable. In two days I've upgraded the whole deck using the money from cards won.

I've found the deck plays a little more aggressively if you go with a Fire Mark, ten fire pillars, and four aether pillars. Your chances of lagging on the aether quantum generation go up a bit but it's a trade off for having more damage from Fahrenheit early on and getting the game over with a few turns earlier. On a good draw you can end the game with 10 cards remaining in your deck. If your pillars aren't upgraded it's probably better to stay with the aether mark and/or the five aether pillars. Taking the deck to 30 cards seemed to increase the reliability of the shield chain.

hello5666

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg78573#msg78573
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2010, 07:38:12 am »
It would be quicker with upgrades

twinsbuster

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg78637#msg78637
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2010, 11:39:12 am »
I would recommand more aether towers than the more aggressive one
I've tested for months and found the optimal numbers
upgraded: 4 aether towers with aether mark
unupped: 5 aether pillars with aether mark

having aether mark is more stable to ensure an early phase shield
however with the shield chain, fire quantum will be enough finally
more fire towers can only shorten the game time but lower the win rate

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Re: Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6758.msg78785#msg78785
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2010, 03:45:04 pm »
This deck sucks unupgraded in my oppinon.. (tested it for 20 games and all of them were losses) it means u have to hold out before the opponent kills your ass and this deck 100% relys on luck on drawings that u can get an early farenheit and starting with at least 2 shields on your hand and be lucky enough to draw at least 2 more within the next 10 turn or else the god you are facing is gona wtfpwn with his massive creaturestock most gods have the ability to get u down from 100-0 in one attack ide say this deck would just drain your wallet instead of filling it.. tho its cheap and prolly good (somehow) but i would not recomend doing this deck unupgraded then you have bigger chances with going fully fire with mark of time and 6 sundials
Apparently all decks are bad in your opinion.

Why is there a Reflective shield if you ditch Octane?

 

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