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Re: Fast-Draw Unupped Pillarless AI3 Grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6298.msg214659#msg214659
« Reply #72 on: December 02, 2010, 12:37:37 am »
Even without the precogs my matches vs. AI3 are only lasting up to a minute ten when I was checking. Sometimes I have enough out on the first round for a win in four or five turns. Seems to be working just fine. :)

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Re: Fast-Draw Unupped Pillarless AI3 Grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6298.msg225203#msg225203
« Reply #73 on: December 15, 2010, 08:49:59 am »
What about using sundials instead of precogs or a mix thereof? The sundials would help with the speed while preventing damage at the same.  The deck doesn't use the  :light  needed for the hasten effect.   Thoughts?

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Re: Fast-Draw Unupped Pillarless AI3 Grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6298.msg225484#msg225484
« Reply #74 on: December 15, 2010, 08:34:53 pm »
Yep, sundials are great at preventing damage. Your own damage, of course. You might get a couple sundials in before your first creature, but the rest will be useless.
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Re: Fast-Draw Unupped Pillarless AI3 Grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6298.msg231762#msg231762
« Reply #75 on: December 23, 2010, 10:48:39 pm »
Does it still work against the new and improved AI3?

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Re: Fast-Draw Unupped Pillarless AI3 Grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6298.msg330099#msg330099
« Reply #76 on: May 09, 2011, 06:21:24 pm »
Ran a quick test of all the Elders:

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Re: Fast-Draw Unupped Pillarless AI3 Grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6298.msg330111#msg330111
« Reply #77 on: May 09, 2011, 07:02:21 pm »
This is a poorly designed deck that wasn't tested enough. While it doesn't totally suck, it's not very good either. In its current form, I do not recommend this deck to anyone. But if you customize it a bit, it might work.

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Re: Fast-Draw Unupped Pillarless AI3 Grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6298.msg330392#msg330392
« Reply #78 on: May 10, 2011, 04:51:52 am »
This is a poorly designed deck that wasn't tested enough. While it doesn't totally suck, it's not very good either. In its current form, I do not recommend this deck to anyone. But if you customize it a bit, it might work.
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Re: Fast-Draw Unupped Pillarless AI3 Grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6298.msg357159#msg357159
« Reply #79 on: June 27, 2011, 01:50:11 am »
This is a poorly designed deck that wasn't tested enough. While it doesn't totally suck, it's not very good either. In its current form, I do not recommend this deck to anyone. But if you customize it a bit, it might work.
whaaat? so at first you say its unbeatable, and now you say its not that good? huh

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Re: Fast-Draw Unupped Pillarless AI3 Grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6298.msg357160#msg357160
« Reply #80 on: June 27, 2011, 01:59:17 am »
This is a poorly designed deck that wasn't tested enough. While it doesn't totally suck, it's not very good either. In its current form, I do not recommend this deck to anyone. But if you customize it a bit, it might work.
whaaat? so at first you say its unbeatable, and now you say its not that good? huh
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However more to the point:  This deck was designed and submitted over a year ago.  The Level 3 AI was both less intelligent and had less structured decks at that time.  So while it may have been an incredibly efficient deck 13 months ago, at this point in time it is outdated because the game has changed significantly since then.  It can be modified to make it work in today's metagame though.  Regardless, other decks would be better suited than this, as stated already.
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Re: Fast-Draw Unupped Pillarless AI3 Grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6298.msg357166#msg357166
« Reply #81 on: June 27, 2011, 02:18:16 am »
This can be a tad slow to start off but when it gets going this things pretty much unstoppable verses most level 3s :P

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Re: Fast-Draw Unupped Pillarless AI3 Grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6298.msg358252#msg358252
« Reply #82 on: June 29, 2011, 11:10:51 am »
I would quite happily bet any amount of money I could use this deck and lose the majority of the time despite trying to win.

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Re: Fast-Draw Unupped Pillarless AI3 Grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6298.msg362137#msg362137
« Reply #83 on: July 07, 2011, 02:29:00 am »
This is a poorly designed deck that wasn't tested enough. While it doesn't totally suck, it's not very good either. In its current form, I do not recommend this deck to anyone. But if you customize it a bit, it might work.
whaaat? so at first you say its unbeatable, and now you say its not that good? huh
Scaredgirl is a fan of sarcasm, jokes, and facetiousness, just to make you aware.

However more to the point:  This deck was designed and submitted over a year ago.  The Level 3 AI was both less intelligent and had less structured decks at that time.  So while it may have been an incredibly efficient deck 13 months ago, at this point in time it is outdated because the game has changed significantly since then.  It can be modified to make it work in today's metagame though.  Regardless, other decks would be better suited than this, as stated already.
Ok. Thanks for making me less ignorant  :D

 

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