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Re: (1.27) CC? Why Bother? - unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23978.msg342631#msg342631
« Reply #84 on: May 29, 2011, 01:43:43 pm »
im not winning many games could someone possilby help me with this
There is a nice strategy guide in the post for the upped version.  I linked this in my first post, the strategy for this one closely mirrors that one.  Someday I will do a rough, basic strategy guide since the players using this deck tend to be on the newer side of things.

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Re: (1.27) CC? Why Bother? - unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23978.msg345466#msg345466
« Reply #85 on: June 03, 2011, 04:18:42 pm »
Any alternation for the pulvy (i just have 1)?

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Re: (1.27) CC? Why Bother? - unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23978.msg345580#msg345580
« Reply #86 on: June 03, 2011, 09:55:36 pm »
Any alternation for the pulvy (i just have 1)?
you sorta need the two but if you get a t50 deck im sure youll get atleast 1 more pulvy considering i have 6 of almost every rare do to t50
heres the t50 deck i use: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16828.0.html

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Re: (1.27) CC? Why Bother? - unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23978.msg350398#msg350398
« Reply #87 on: June 13, 2011, 06:55:52 am »
This deck is great, but i prefer to use an eternity instead of mindgate/fractal due to decking out so much. Also, -1 golem +1 fire spirit helps with the strain on your earth quantum in early game.

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Re: (1.27) CC? Why Bother? - unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23978.msg356277#msg356277
« Reply #88 on: June 25, 2011, 01:11:50 am »
1. I love this deck.
2. I forgot to change my elemental mark and still won.
3. If I have an elite firefly queen already should I use fractal instead of something else?

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Re: (1.27) CC? Why Bother? - unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23978.msg356288#msg356288
« Reply #89 on: June 25, 2011, 01:50:25 am »
Any alternation for the pulvy (i just have 1)?
I guess you could try 2 Steals, but there's no REAL alternative to a Pulverizer aside from maybe Butterfly Effect. But there's already a deck (albeit outdated, IIRC) built around Butterfly Effect.
If I have an elite firefly queen already should I use fractal instead of something else?
Fractal is best used with the Elite Queen. Elite Fireflies give you enough Fire quanta to Fractal the Lava Destroyers, which gives great burst damage.

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Re: (1.27) CC? Why Bother? - unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23978.msg356295#msg356295
« Reply #90 on: June 25, 2011, 02:11:52 am »
I'll have to disagree somewhat with the upgrade order. Upped hourglasses make a gigantic difference when it comes to getting set up early game.

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Re: (1.27) CC? Why Bother? - unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23978.msg359920#msg359920
« Reply #91 on: July 02, 2011, 10:57:59 pm »
well i don't seem to be having any luck at all with this. so far i have lost all 20 of my games.

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Re: (1.27) CC? Why Bother? - unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23978.msg361728#msg361728
« Reply #92 on: July 06, 2011, 11:59:51 am »
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Try my slightly upgraded variant. I'm assuming some people at least have electrum hourglasses as their first 2 or 3 cards upgrade. Enchant artifact is pretty much removed to focus on killing FG without permanent control, this is to ensure at least you will have a win after 10 or so matches at least. Dimensional shield is there for staying power/elemental mastery. Eternity helps against some FGs like miracle and destiny. Sanctuary is needed for unupped deck otherwise black hole or devourers kills. Shards can be substituted with enchant artifact or purify.

From my experience:

Akebono: hard, this is where you want antimatters, your call
Chaos Lord: impossible, you need him to steal your sanctuary
Dark Matter: impossible, he seemed beyond reach for unupped pillars
Decay: very easy elemental masteries, if you force him to steal hourglasses and shields instead of pulvy or sanctuary, he is slow (100% win rate in 6 matches)
Destiny: moderate, need eternity
Divine Glory: almost impossible due to explosion
Dream Catcher: beyond impossible
Elidnis: easy, or moderate if he had good draws
Eternal Phoenix: very hard
Ferox: easy, depending on draws
Fire Queen: moderate
Gemini: hard, need luck
Graviton: very hard
Hecate: hard, need EA
Hermes: impossible
Incarnate: very easy
Jezebel: very hard need EA
Lionheart: hard, preferably need ea for pulvy, much better with aether mark
Miracle: moderate, takes forever -.-
Morte: hard needs purify
Neptune: super easy, 99% chance of winning (100% win rate in 15 matches)
Oblterator: hard, too fast
Octane: almost impossible
Osiris: easy
Paradox: hard, depends
Rainbow: impossible
Scorpio: moderately hard, easy with purify
Seism: impossible
Serket: almost impossible, need purify, permfrost

Decay, Incarnate and Neptune are pretty much guaranteed win most of the time, Osiris is easy too. In fact losing to Decay is almost impossible at least one EA.

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Something like this works too, putting mind flayer to counter massed momentum, usually gravity based deck, slight CC but i find more effective than antimatters since it removes other skills too.



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Re: (1.27) CC? Why Bother? - unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23978.msg361743#msg361743
« Reply #93 on: July 06, 2011, 01:01:55 pm »
Chaos Lord: impossible, you need him to steal your sanctuary
You can blow up the shield then kill him

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Re: (1.27) CC? Why Bother? - unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23978.msg361747#msg361747
« Reply #94 on: July 06, 2011, 01:15:31 pm »
Chaos Lord: impossible, you need him to steal your sanctuary
You can blow up the shield then kill him
Assuming he doesn't Steal/Destroy your Pulvy first of course.
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Re: (1.27) CC? Why Bother? - unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23978.msg362069#msg362069
« Reply #95 on: July 06, 2011, 11:30:19 pm »
Chaos Lord: impossible, you need him to steal your sanctuary
You can blow up the shield then kill him
Assuming he doesn't Steal/Destroy your Pulvy first of course.
This is where having enchant artifact comes in handy  ;D

 

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