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Do you like this tournament's rules?

Yes, I would like to see them used again.
2 (25%)
Yes, but some minor changes are needed for balancing.
4 (50%)
No, some major changes are needed for balancing.
0 (0%)
No, I don't like the theme/rules.
2 (25%)
Other (Please specify in thread AFTER the tournament has ended.)
0 (0%)

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Voting closed: September 17, 2018, 09:45:02 pm

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Re: Weekly Tournament - September 16th - Matching Chromatics - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66337.msg1280542#msg1280542
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2018, 04:21:26 pm »
i used 2 decks

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i used this version with something like - 1 shield/ + mummy or something, every time i twisted the death cards against players with life for countering adrenaline, against players with darkness -6 death cards for +6 poison (and maybe -1 death pend +1 water?)

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i used this only in the 1-1 against dani and kali, that lonely queen saved my lil ass in final match



I would say there are 2 options for a TO: enter the tourney and play OR don't enter the tourney.

there is a third option, tros join and you fellow chaps stop complaining about bugger all

only in this tournament:
1 insignificant asked to see my deck after losing g1 for a reason unbeknownst to me, first time it happened to me (still used the same exact deck another 2 times)
2 shock tried to force a replay with an invalid screenshot after claiming to have won a very hard matchup

u all are great people, but it's the third time this week i say u should relax about this game
it's getting impossible have fun all together, there is always some sorta of tension when if u win = u are lucky u didn't deserve it, u lose = tos have advantage, x card used by your opponent should be banned, rules sucks

totally not a personal attack, i am the first to rage but at least i do it when things aren't fair for everyone, no matter if u are a vet or a new player

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Re: Weekly Tournament - September 16th - Matching Chromatics - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66337.msg1280543#msg1280543
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2018, 05:30:09 pm »
Decks from final vs. Manu
Elements:  :light :earth :darkness

Game 1 - loss
Had the right CC for NT, but not quite the earth quanta to play in time to stop the NT train.  In retrospect, this deck is trying to do too much and is slow.

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Game 2 - win
CC cards out in time to stop NT train.  Sanctuaries negated poison damage.  I think Manu used poison instead of Arsenic (probably to avoid steal). 

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Game 3 - loss
I used a reduced size deck of the following, which was previously used against Vindilos.  I think actual deck was 35 cards.  I also recall putting in +2 Dusk and +1 vampire stilleto, dropped morning star and went with 6x blessing.  Also had a random NM.  Manu got an early SoP and I thought I was done for.  Managed to make it interesting by draining squids leaving one high HP grey nymph on board.  Dusk did what Shockcannon claims it does, and kept me in it for a bit.  In the end, Manu drew BW and NQ when needed, ending the potential comeback.  Well done Manuel. 

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This is closer to what I used in G3.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - September 16th - Matching Chromatics - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66337.msg1280546#msg1280546
« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2018, 07:11:56 pm »
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Re: Weekly Tournament - September 16th - Matching Chromatics - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66337.msg1280552#msg1280552
« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2018, 08:18:34 pm »
1 insignificant asked to see my deck after losing g1 for a reason unbeknownst to me, first time it happened to me (still used the same exact deck another 2 times)

To clarify, the reason I asked to see Manuel's deck was just to be sure that at least 6 Death cards were being used. There were, so I took the loss. (Though I'm not one to talk either, only 5 PUs in the one deck that gave me a win.)
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Re: Weekly Tournament - September 16th - Matching Chromatics - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66337.msg1280559#msg1280559
« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2018, 09:11:43 pm »
lol i totally lost the part of your second illegal deck with me losing that match

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Re: Weekly Tournament - September 16th - Matching Chromatics - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66337.msg1280560#msg1280560
« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2018, 09:16:34 pm »
lol i totally lost the part of your second illegal deck with me losing that match

I never said anything about not wanting TOs to join. Other than that, mostly valid.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - September 16th - Matching Chromatics - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66337.msg1280561#msg1280561
« Reply #30 on: September 16, 2018, 09:20:15 pm »
Deck checks are part of the game.

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Re: Weekly Tournament - September 16th - Matching Chromatics - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66337.msg1280563#msg1280563
« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2018, 10:00:31 pm »
Deck checks are part of the game.

requested by a player and made by the player with a to that is not playing the tournament only for checking decks?
the convo happened in private messages

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Re: Weekly Tournament - September 16th - Matching Chromatics - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66337.msg1280566#msg1280566
« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2018, 10:22:53 pm »

I would say there are 2 options for a TO: enter the tourney and play OR don't enter the tourney.

there is a third option, tros join and you fellow chaps stop complaining about bugger all

It is called feedback. The organizers will decide what do with it.


u all are great people, but it's the third time this week i say u should relax about this game


I think we already know well that we are far from the big boys. I play this game competitively since April, big surprise.

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it's getting impossible have fun all together, there is always some sorta of tension when if u win = u are lucky u didn't deserve it, u lose = tos have advantage, x card used by your opponent should be banned, rules sucks

You are being superficial, and also distorting things. I won't bother to answer each issue, because I clearly know what have I done or haven't,
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Surprise, surprise! Every time I'm vocal I'm only able to refer to my case and hope that others won't have to suffer the same thing.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - September 16th - Matching Chromatics - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66337.msg1280572#msg1280572
« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2018, 10:48:39 pm »
so players are supposed to check the deck of the opponent after a single game, k

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Re: Weekly Tournament - September 16th - Matching Chromatics - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66337.msg1280573#msg1280573
« Reply #34 on: September 16, 2018, 10:58:31 pm »
There is no easier way to determine that noone is using illegal decks that I would know. However, you have the option to send them to a TO instead of showing your opponent, in this case there was me who didnt play but was more or less present, so that was an actual option for once (not so much when all tos are offline or playing unfortunately). Also with the current wording of the rule you were technically not obligated at all to show your deck to anyone, as the rules state that deck check must be requested before the start of the match. Tbh, that rule isnt actually viable, legality concerns always occur only after a game and we dont want everyone to request deckchecks in advance just in case as that would delay things a lot. We're gonna have to look into several rules it seems.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - September 16th - Matching Chromatics - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66337.msg1280574#msg1280574
« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2018, 11:00:42 pm »
From rules, " After the match has ended, you can ask him to show either you or the Tournament Organizer his decks for a legality check. " I guess you could have waited till after the match, but you definitely don't need to be as aggressive about it. Just try and enjoy the game instead of keep going on about other people's "mistakes".
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