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Do you like this tournament's rules?

Yes, I would like to see them used again.
6 (85.7%)
Yes, but some minor changes are needed for balancing.
0 (0%)
No, some major changes are needed for balancing.
0 (0%)
No, I don't like the theme/rules.
1 (14.3%)
Other (Please specify in thread AFTER the tournament has ended.
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 7

Voting closed: May 28, 2017, 05:47:50 pm

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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 27th - Triple Ban - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64604.msg1264574#msg1264574
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2017, 03:15:17 pm »
In the case that 2 Players were to select the same elements what would happen?
How does that matter in any way though? You choose 3 elements your opponent is not allowed to use.
When you pick the 3 elements your opponent is not able to use them however you still are. If you both pick the same elements I'm guessing that you will both have access to using all 3?

Am I making sense or am I getting confused?
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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 27th - Triple Ban - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64604.msg1264575#msg1264575
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2017, 03:30:07 pm »
In the case that 2 Players were to select the same elements what would happen?
How does that matter in any way though? You choose 3 elements your opponent is not allowed to use.
When you pick the 3 elements your opponent is not able to use them however you still are. If you both pick the same elements I'm guessing that you will both have access to using all 3?

Am I making sense or am I getting confused?

It's essentially you pick 3 elements at start of tourney, and those 3 elements are banned for your opponent every round. The 3 elements your opponent picked are banned for you. So, if you both pick the same 3, you both cant use those 3 elements, and have to use the remaining 9 elements.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 27th - Triple Ban - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64604.msg1264577#msg1264577
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2017, 03:52:12 pm »
Gotcha. I thought you could only use those elements. Thanks www3.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 27th - Triple Ban - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64604.msg1264607#msg1264607
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2017, 05:37:54 am »
In the case that 2 Players were to select the same elements what would happen?
How does that matter in any way though? You choose 3 elements your opponent is not allowed to use.
but you is the opponent of your opponent ok? and the rules said  (However you can still use your own elements)
that is controversial enough to me, if it is a program happen one bug for sure
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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 27th - Triple Ban - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64604.msg1264611#msg1264611
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2017, 10:27:23 am »
I don't understand why people are misunderstanding the rule, and I don't have a better way to explain them :'( ...

Edit: On a second thought, I think I might see the problem. Let's look at this example:

Afdadonkey :air :water :light vs Pidgeon :darkness :water :earth

In this case Afdadonkey can use :entropy :death :gravity :life :fire :light :air :time :aether, and Pidgeon can use :entropy :death :gravity :earth :life :fire :time :darkness :aether.

It is that easy.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 27th - Triple Ban - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64604.msg1264613#msg1264613
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2017, 10:38:26 am »
In the case that 2 Players were to select the same elements what would happen?
How does that matter in any way though? You choose 3 elements your opponent is not allowed to use.
but you is the opponent of your opponent ok? and the rules said  (However you can still use your own elements)
that is controversial enough to me, if it is a program happen one bug for sure
Come on guys, it's not that complicated, and you're making poor Vin sad...

"You can still use your own elements" in this context means that the elements you choose to ban have no effect on the elements you can use, only your opponent's. You can still use your own element ban choices assuming they aren't banned BY THE OPPOSITION.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 27th - Triple Ban - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64604.msg1264616#msg1264616
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2017, 01:45:47 pm »
I don't understand why people are misunderstanding the rule, and I don't have a better way to explain them :'( ...

Edit: On a second thought, I think I might see the problem. Let's look at this example:

Afdadonkey :air :water :light vs Pidgeon :darkness :water :earth

In this case Afdadonkey can use :entropy :death :gravity :life :fire :light :air :time :aether, and Pidgeon can use :entropy :death :gravity :earth :life :fire :time :darkness :aether.

It is that easy.
And just to clarify, what would happen if both Afdadonkey and Pidgeon picked :air :water :light. Which elements could they both use?
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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 27th - Triple Ban - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64604.msg1264617#msg1264617
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2017, 01:47:34 pm »
I don't understand why people are misunderstanding the rule, and I don't have a better way to explain them :'( ...

Edit: On a second thought, I think I might see the problem. Let's look at this example:

Afdadonkey :air :water :light vs Pidgeon :darkness :water :earth

In this case Afdadonkey can use :entropy :death :gravity :life :fire :light :air :time :aether, and Pidgeon can use :entropy :death :gravity :earth :life :fire :time :darkness :aether.

It is that easy.
And just to clarify, what would happen if both Afdadonkey and Pidgeon picked :air :water :light. Which elements could they both use?

Both of them would be able to use :entropy :death :gravity :earth :life :fire :time :darkness :aether only.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 27th - Triple Ban - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64604.msg1264618#msg1264618
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2017, 02:09:10 pm »
Ah ok. So the bans override the:
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(However you can still use your own elements)
This is what I (and maybe someone else) was confused about. This example makes things much clearer.

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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 27th - Triple Ban - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64604.msg1264636#msg1264636
« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2017, 10:31:28 pm »
Deepest apologies for the delay, had a heck of a time sorting these out.

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www3:fire :darkness :aether
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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 27th - Triple Ban - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64604.msg1264637#msg1264637
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Re: Weekly Tournament - May 27th - Triple Ban - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64604.msg1264638#msg1264638
« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2017, 10:57:51 pm »
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tough luck, in both cases both players brought sth the other deck was weak too, in all games quantaflood for both, it hurt him more.
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