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Pre-Smithy Primer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26252.msg333582#msg333582
« on: May 14, 2011, 07:05:05 pm »
This section is for Idea Development and the way to keep the Design Theory board clean of ideas that are not quite ready for smithy. These are ideas that could use some help from the community. We will be here to point idea creators in the right direction. I am sure we all need help to get a basic form of an idea, I know I need this kind of help. I think all we need to do is get an idea to smithy standards, then the more thorough evaluation can begin. There are different way someone can come up with an idea; a word or phrase, something from a story/history, or an image. If anyone has and idea but it needs discussion post it  in this section.

Questions I usually have are:
What element should it be?
What should this do?
Is this balanced?
Is this UP or OP?

This the continuation of the thread that bears the same name just on a larger scale.
Now If anyone needs help to get an idea ready for The Smithy, this section is now open for business.
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Re: Read Me First https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26252.msg333607#msg333607
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2011, 07:19:18 pm »
What's going to happen to the thread?

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Re: Read Me First https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26252.msg333610#msg333610
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2011, 07:21:42 pm »
I think it and other threads need to be moved to this section.
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Re: Read Me First https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26252.msg335284#msg335284
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2011, 05:57:31 am »
My thoughts

What the Smithy does:
Balance
Format

What the Smithy requires of posters:
Rough Draft of the idea

What the Pre-Smithy does:
Create rough drafts of ideas


Perhaps threads based on what the person is looking for prior to making their Smithy threads?
Ex:
How do I implement this idea of mine?
Is this idea worth making a card of?
What Element is my idea?
What should this card do?
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Re: Read Me First https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26252.msg340712#msg340712
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2011, 04:22:39 am »
In general, IMO, there are two kinds of ideas that are half built.

When you first get an idea for a card, you either have:

1) An idea for a mechanic.
2) An idea for a theme.

IMO, these are the kinds of ideas that could go into this section.


So what exactly do I mean by them?

Mechanic

When you have an idea for a mechanic, you think of a special ability that you think would be cool to have in game.
Most of the time these will be abilities. My personal examples of mechanic based ideas are things like Magnet or Acceleration.
In general you have trouble with mechanic based ideas because you can't think of a good way to implement them.

Questions to ask and that should be answered are:

What element(s) should it belong to?
Should it be a creature/permanent/spell?
What should it be called?
What should the ability be called?
What would the art look like?

Theme

Theme-based cards are different. Usually you get theme based cards when you think of some kind of real/mythical creature or object that you would like to see in the game.
In general for theme-based ideas you already have a good idea of what element the card is from. There is usually only one main thing a theme-based card needs, and that's a good mechanic that goes well with the theme.


In short, if you thought of a mechanic for a card, you need to generate a good theme to go with it, while if you thought of a theme for a card, you need a mechanic that goes well with it.

This section should, IMO, focus primarily on developing these half-ideas.
Anything that has a theme and a mechanic already is ready for the Smithy and to be subject to balancing. (Cost, stats, etc.)

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Re: Read Me First https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26252.msg439272#msg439272
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2011, 05:32:01 pm »
where is the Level-0 Smithy?

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Re: Read Me First https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26252.msg439299#msg439299
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2011, 06:59:38 pm »
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Re: Read Me First https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26252.msg1026676#msg1026676
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Re: Read Me First https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26252.msg1108082#msg1108082
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2013, 04:56:13 pm »
how do we know when an idea is ready for the Smithy?
do we decide that ourselves or we need to wait for some kind of approval?

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Re: Read Me First https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26252.msg1108110#msg1108110
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2013, 08:41:34 pm »
how do we know when an idea is ready for the Smithy?
do we decide that ourselves or we need to wait for some kind of approval?
Well , does an idea have:
A name
a starting. cost
Does text fit within the box of the card image?
If it is a creature are stats at a reasonable starting point .
can all used areas of the table be filled out.

Note: A Smithy thread title must have thr following format .
Unupped |Upped
 
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Re: Read Me First https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26252.msg1108122#msg1108122
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2013, 09:13:24 pm »
how do we know when an idea is ready for the Smithy?
do we decide that ourselves or we need to wait for some kind of approval?
Well , does an idea have:
A name
a starting. cost
Does text fit within the box of the card image?
If it is a creature are stats at a reasonable starting point .
can all used areas of the table be filled out.

Note: A Smithy thread title must have thr following format .
Unupped |Upped

i have made some cards, would something like this ---> http://elementscommunity.org/forum/pre-smithy-ideas/aetherite/msg1107907/#msg1107907
qualify?
(i have 19 cards in the pre-smithy)

and in case they do qualify, should i make a new thread or do the current threads get moved?

thanks
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Re: Read Me First https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26252.msg1108290#msg1108290
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2013, 04:45:08 pm »
I think you may start a new thread, but use any help received so far.
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