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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64348.msg1262823#msg1262823
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2017, 04:22:42 AM »
Do any vets have suggestions to someone just starting out? I'm on chapter 6 and can't decide if I want a bowman or a priest, or if I should switch, or what. Can post pics if requested.

Given how obsessed I am with this game, you should name your main heroes (aside from Anna, Sharena, and Alfonse :P ) that you're using. Specifically name any 5 star units that you have, and if you want, post screen shots of any 4-5 star unit if you want IV calcs. ;)

Here's a couple of good sites that I use for general purposes - you don't need to follow their guidelines per se, but the tier lists make sense given what skills they have, not factoring in additional skill inheritance/seal equips/etc:

http://feheroes.gamepedia.com/Tier_List
https://fireemblem.gamepress.gg/



Personally, I generally have a healer on the majority of my teams to act as a support while my more tanky units can deal damage. Ideally, no matter what heroes you have, the theme should revolve around a strategy of one of the following (note - there's probably better strategies/discussion regarding this on other forums, so bear with me):

  • "Traditional"/Balanced: Two melee units (preferably one breath/dragon/magic user, the other can be a sword/lancer/axe), one-two ranged unit(s) (tome/ninja/archer), zero-one healer
  • Magic/Ranged Nukers (three tome users, one of each color, usually with high ATK/SPD/unique weapons, + a dancer/singer to double actions or a support unit with ranged attacks)
  • Aggressive debuffers (Ninja, Tome user, two durable tank-like characters with high def/res)
  • Flanker/'Dive team (Usually compromised of popular sword users, flier/calvary units to enter in/out of battle at different angles, and a fast archer/ninja/tome user)
  • A mix and match of above

For the most part, the majority of players usually either use whatever 5* (five star) unit they first summon on their main team and try to either build around them, or absorb them in part of a greater strategy named above.

If you have Hector, Takumi, Lucina, Linde, Azura, Kagero, Julia, Ninian, or Tharja... you probably won't need as much help to advance past the normal/hard chapters. ^^;

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64348.msg1262824#msg1262824
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2017, 04:30:34 AM »
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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64348.msg1262827#msg1262827
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2017, 05:09:38 AM »
Hm.

I'm just gonna list what I see on the top of my head and go from there:

Olivia is one of the most common dancers that many newbie teams tend to include to get that double action, so she's fine to include on your team. HOWEVER, in later stages, you'll still need a strong fire/red unit, and unless your team is based off the 'nuke everything with ranged/super strong units', Olivia will not help in taking down any notable green units (specifically, Camilla, Hector, Julia, and Michaelis). You may want to try leveling up Lon'qu if you find yourself with Olivia being the last unit on the team.

Merric, the Wind mage, is fine. Just remember that if you plan on investing in him heavily for that sweet Excalibur skill (good against fliers, so you basically have a pseudo-archer on your team!), you should have a healer with Rehabilitate (NOT Sakura; try using Wrys or Lissa and get them to 4 star) to help him in more serious binds.

A healer is your best bet for now, given that your other archers (Niles, Virion) are too niche and weak to deal with most threats.

Shanna is... debatable.
Ideally, you want to find out strategies that synergize well when you're trying to mix and match heroes of different typings. Shanna reduces speed (which prevents your units from getting doubled), but her ATK is low and she needs to be in range of the enemies at the beginning of the foe's turn, which increases her chance of getting swarmed/killed. Her passive Desperation helps with that, but a bulky green unit can ignore the speed boost and one shot her anyway.

She's still a good melee unit, but my best friend and I are using Sharena 5* (him) and Corrin [F] the dragon user (me). Sharena's 5* skills reduce ATK by a significant amount to make her unintentionally tanky (good to have as a melee unit), while my Corrin is a debuffer that reduces the resistance of units she fights against in range (good to have when you have a kickass mage/tome user, since it helps guarantees kills even against units of the stronger color).

Since you have both of those heroes in your arsenal, you can choose to alternatively level them up and have a team with far more bulk/defenses (Sharena + Merric = Mage with high HP/ATK boost and tanky thanks to Sharena's damage reduction), or a more aggressive playstyle (Corrin[F] + Merric = enemies are more susceptible to dying by magic).
But ultimately it's up to you - your team will work fine for now, but hopefully you'll get more orbs and better units on the their list.

Make sure you do a full summon when you're starting off. Consuming 20 orbs for 5 units in one session > Consuming 25 orbs for 5 units for five separate sessions. Get your castle up to max level if possible as well.

Don't do any skill inheritence, hero sacrifices, or merging until you get AT LEAST 80 units in your hero box, or unless you have like, 8 copies of the same hero. [I wouldn't do it then still because you haven't encountered IV calculations yet, which is for later, so save your heroes just in case].

Any other questions? ^^;
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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64348.msg1262832#msg1262832
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2017, 06:46:57 AM »
Don't level up Lon'qu, sacrifice him for vantage!
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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64348.msg1262833#msg1262833
« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2017, 06:56:43 AM »
Don't level up Lon'qu, sacrifice him for vantage!

Coffee doesn't even have 50 heroes yet. x) Let him summon more before sacrificing anything first!

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64348.msg1262834#msg1262834
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2017, 07:26:27 AM »
Don't level up Lon'qu, sacrifice him for vantage!

Coffee doesn't even have 50 heroes yet. x) Let him summon more before sacrificing anything first!
I've only got 60 heroes and I say vantage on just about anyone is going to help more than lon'qu. Especially on tanks!
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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64348.msg1262852#msg1262852
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2017, 06:41:14 PM »
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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64348.msg1262861#msg1262861
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2017, 02:52:46 AM »
Jaffar is a pretty good unit overall as a ninja, but again, if you're going for the more 'balanced' strategy, this might involve you removing your healer for a ranged physical damage dealer, which will need to weighed carefully pro and con wise.



In regards to 'IV' calcs, this is what I mean:
https://fireemblem.gamepress.gg/fire-emblem-heroes-iv-calculator

This calculator will help you determine what the stats are for a character that reaches level 40 at their current rarity level (3, 4, or 5 star units only; no one is gonna try to level up a 1 star rarity unit to max x) ). If you want to go for some more min-maxing strategies and/or determine whether a particular hero has a different stat distribution than is normal, use the above link to see if you have to compensate for any stat losses (or synergize with specific stat gains).

IVs follow a 'up 1, down 1' system, meaning stats are all balanced/normal, or, one stat in particular is boosted for lowering another. If your hero, for example, has extremely low SPD and normal-high ATK/DEF/RES/HP normally, having an IV spread of -SPD/+DEF for example will make them even slower, but far more tankier against the majority of melee threats, ninjas, and archers (physical damage dealers).

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64348.msg1262864#msg1262864
« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2017, 03:13:54 AM »
That is a sexy Jaffar.

I'd like to point out that Individual Values, as Kuro was mentioning, are far more important than the rarity you get the unit at. You can find that you have a 3 star unit with an awesome IV spread, and on the other hand a 5 star unit with a horrible one. If you need any help finding out how to figure out the IV spread, feel free to ask myself or Kuro.

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Re: Fire Emblem Heroes http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64348.msg1262903#msg1262903
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Just pulled this; IVs are low ATK and high DEF, recommended is low ATK and high SPD.

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