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EtG vs MtG vs HS vs Ederon vs TESL https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64389.msg1262435#msg1262435
« on: April 13, 2017, 03:44:13 pm »
I was bored, so I figured I'd start a thread where we bash card games about how they are not as good as the others.  I'll add more to the subject title if it's relevant.  Let the game bashing begin.
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Re: EtG vs MtG vs HS vs Ederon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64389.msg1262445#msg1262445
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2017, 04:58:21 pm »
The Elder Scrolls: Legends should be on this (TESL)
Like Hearthstone, but far far far better.

Never played Ederon, what's that like?
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Re: EtG vs MtG vs HS vs Ederon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64389.msg1262452#msg1262452
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2017, 08:32:02 pm »
The Elder Scrolls: Legends should be on this (TESL)
Like Hearthstone, but far far far better.

Never played Ederon, what's that like?

It's an item and ability/spell style game that uses classes that can play certain cards, also with certain effects and strengths of those effects.  Unlike HS, at the start of a game you have to equip and may also change your class, at the cost of a turn; but some cards aid in averting the loss of the turn.  Also, instead of mana, quanta, or any other accrued resource, cards are played using a phase-based turn system, and either have no cost for a base-strength effect or cost anything from your life points, another card, a specific condition being met, or your ability to play your cards or use them in a certain way.
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Re: EtG vs MtG vs HS vs Ederon vs TESL https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64389.msg1262455#msg1262455
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2017, 09:49:20 pm »
ETG all the way! All the others seem really crap, seeing I haven't touched any of them (except hearthstone which lasted for a good hour)
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Re: EtG vs MtG vs HS vs Ederon vs TESL https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64389.msg1262457#msg1262457
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2017, 11:04:19 pm »
Aetheron (rip) > Spectromancer > all

As far as the ones in the title, haven't played HS or Ederon. EtG is above both MtG and TESL for me.
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Re: EtG vs MtG vs HS vs Ederon vs TESL https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64389.msg1262458#msg1262458
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2017, 11:44:00 pm »
BASH TIME!

EtG: Fun game, but sadly, no further development is likely to take place.  More cards would really improve the game, and there's a lot of untapped potential, but I don't think we're ever going to see it.

MtG: $$$$$$$$$$$$$................. I love MtG, but holy crap, so expensive, at least to be tournament-level competitive.  You can certainly have loads of fun with budget decks, but it's hard to make a choice between things like having a roof over your head and food on the table this month, or that one card you need for your deck.  Wait... no, it isn't.

HS: Elements players like to complain about RNG.  Elements RNG has NOTHING on Hearthstone.  NOTHING :p  Also, they're completely incompetent at card balance, and do not appear to have a playtesting team.  (if they do, they should be fired)  Still a fun game, but it can be really frustrating sometimes.

Ederon/TESL: I haven't tried these two.  Bashing here consists of insufficient time to play all CCGs :p

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Re: EtG vs MtG vs HS vs Ederon vs TESL https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64389.msg1262489#msg1262489
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2017, 07:02:50 pm »
EtG: Great game. Could do with some more development though :/

MtG: I only really played a tiny bit of it online. Seemed okay, but nothing exceptional about it.

HS: Really fun game, but terrible developers in terms of balancing cards,  not to mention Blizzard is really greedy $$$. The new player experience is also terrible. Really cool game once you can afford everything you want though.

Ederon: Haven't played, so no input here.

TESL: Great game. Really well designed, interesting mechanics, new player friendly. What could you want more from a CCG?

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Re: EtG vs MtG vs HS vs Ederon vs TESL https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64389.msg1263376#msg1263376
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2017, 02:36:08 am »
No Shadowverse? I've moved to Shadowverse, actually. In comparison to Hearthstone, it's the competitive no fun allowed version. I'd like to try out TESL at some point, the 3x coin for 1st vs 2nd balance looks interesting.

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Re: EtG vs MtG vs HS vs Ederon vs TESL https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64389.msg1263379#msg1263379
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2017, 04:04:00 am »
No Minion Masters? I've moved to Minion Masters, actually. So much so that I'm hosting tournaments for it now under my Steam username.

It's basically like clash royale, RTS & CCG, except for PC only and NOT Pay2Win at all. In fact, it's the most truly free to play cardgame I've found in a long time. I only paid for the premium subscription ($20) and I currently own everything in the game and have over $50 worth of premium currency farmed in surplus (mostly via the Draft Mode) after only playing since January.

Also, the developers are active and communicate with the community extremely often, to the point where they will respond to messages on the MM Discord as well as the steam forums.

Potential Cons: -Less RNG than most card games (both in terms of card implementation and decksize, only 10 card decks so you won't have moments of 'omg RNG made it so I can't get to the card I need' nearly as often)
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Re: EtG vs MtG vs HS vs Ederon vs TESL https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64389.msg1268083#msg1268083
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2017, 11:14:56 am »
Glad there's a fellow Ederon player here. I quite enjoyed it, and it made me know how Cardfight Vanguard players feel when they need to save up the cards in their hand if they want good defense. If your hand is empty, your opponent knows that you are defenseless.
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