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Title: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: Drake_XIV on April 14, 2012, 02:08:50 am
Pokemon Online Pokemon League

What is Pokemon Online?  It is an online Pokemon battle simulator.  And probably the most up-to-date and popular one out so far.  Downloads for it are available here (http://pokemon-online.eu/download):

First things first.  This is a PokemonOnline only League.

 I've been in a couple of different gym systems, primarily those made for larger groups. My idea is basically taking the model of the gyms used in the Pokemon games, and adapting them to our group. This means:

    * 8 Gym Leaders

    * 4 Elite Four Members

    * 1 Champion

    * Challengers

Also, note that when battling, everyone participating in a league battle must follow the sleep clause, freeze clause, species clause, and self K.O. clause. All official battles will be single battles.

Gym Leaders

The Gym Leaders can be fought in any order.

As a Gym Leader, you must have a specialized type. This means that each Pokemon on your team must have at least one common type (Everything must have a water type if you are the water gym leader for example). A Pokemon does not have to be pure water type in this example; a dual typed Pokemon is, of course, allowed, such as Water/Grass for a water type team.

Elite Four Members

The Elite 4 may be challenged in any order.  However, there's a catch. If you lose at any time while challenging the Elite 4, you must start over with the first member. So, say for example, I lose at the 3rd Elite Four member; I would then have to defeat both Elite Four members 1 and 2 again, starting the challenge over.

As a member of the Elite 4, you have been chosen to represent the League as a talented battler. Like a gym leader, you must specify in one type of Pokemon. However, unlike a gym leader, you make take in a second type as your main. This means Dual Type teams. And example would be a Rock and Grass type team. Every Pokemon on the team must be either Rock or Grass.

The Champion

The Champion will be set up to model the game's system as well. If you manage to gather all the gym badges, and then beat the Pokemon League, and then emerge victorious over the current Champion (if there is one when you challenge), you will be crown the Elements League Champion. As the Champion, you may only use the Pokemon that you defeated the Pokemon League Champion with against opposing challengers. If you are the current Champion and you are defeated, you are free to challenge the League again and try to reclaim your spot.  Please note that you must work your way up the League ladder instead of merely beating the League.  The first Champion will be determined through a tournament of the first Gym Leaders.

As the Champion, you are a unique specimen of battler, one who has conquered the rough terrains of the Pokemon Gyms and the war zone that is the Pokemon League. Only the truly great will be crowned Champion.

Challengers

The Challenger position is what makes the League. As a Challenger, it's up to you to do your best in your quest of becoming Champion. However, before you do so, there are some rules you must abide by in your challenge:

   1. In order to challenge the Elements Pokemon League, you must register a team of 9 Pokemon that you can use throughout your challenge.
   2. The use of any Pokemon not included in your original registration team will cause your immediate disqualification.
   3. In order to register, you must post your name, and registration team.  This will be recorded in the second post.  All previous challengers and their information will be kept here.
   4. If you wish to change the Pokemon in your registration team, you must re-register and start your challenge over again.

Challengers must follow these 4 rules in order to be eligible to partake in the Elements Pokemon League Challenge.

The Committee

Due to this community, there will still be Committee, but they will not play an integral role in the system.  They will be the judges whenever a challenge to become a League Member is invoked, but even then, they are merely spectators for the most part.

Also, as this is separate from Elements, there are no real prizes for competing and winning.
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: Drake_XIV on April 14, 2012, 02:09:01 am
Staff
Committee
Committee MemberPokemon Online Name
Drake_XIVDrake_XIV
killsdazombiesKillsdazombies

Gym Leaders
Gym LeaderPokemon Online NameType
TyranimNheslhawsGrass
Drake_XIVDrake_XIVFlying
killsdazombiesKillsdazombiesDark
twitchyfbTwitchyGhost
einherjar145einherjar145Psychic


Elite 4
<Temporarily Disbanded>

Champion
<Pending>

Challengers

In order to sign-up, use the following forms:

Code: (Staff Form) [Select]
Username:
Type:
IGN:
Challengers, please take note of the Ban List.

Mewtwo
Mew
Ho-oh
Lugia
Celebi
Latias [If Holding Soul Dew]
Latios [If Holding Soul Dew]
Kyogre
Groudon
Rayquaza
Deoxys [All Formes]
Jirachi
Garchomp
Palkia
Dialga
Giratina [All Formes]
Heatran*
Shaymin [Sky Forme]
Arceus [All Formes]
Victini
Reshiram
Zekrom
Landorus*
Genessect*
Moeletta*


Using Smogon Ban List
*These have been banned for one of two reasons.  One, they have not been released yet.  Two, to prevent the abuse of their use in Challengers' teams.

Code: (Challenger Form) [Select]
Username:
Registered Pokemon:
IGN:

For hopeful staff, PM Drake_XIV (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?action=emailuser;sa=email;uid=107) and I will come around eventually to assign a committee member to test if your team is valid for testing.  For League positions, remember that everyone starts off as a Gym Leader and merely has to make their way up the ladder.

Challengers may start League battles once the Gyms have all been filled.  However, they cannot move past until those further positions have been filled.  Also note that staff members may also challenge the League themselves.  However, when it comes to your position, a proxy must be approved as your replacement.

Also, it would also be appreciated if people would create badges for each type, since, considering the nature of this League, the Gym types may change.
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: tyranim on April 14, 2012, 02:37:39 am
Username: tyranim
Type [Unless applying to be Committee Member]: committee (and gymleader when able [grass])
IGN: Nheslhaws
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: ddevans96 on April 14, 2012, 02:43:30 am
Just noting that I intend to do this, and will have my stuff set up by tomorrow.
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: Drake_XIV on April 14, 2012, 02:50:14 am
Username: tyranim
Type [Unless applying to be Committee Member]: gym leader
IGN: Nheslhaws

Three issues:
1. There are a lack of committee members, so before Gyms can be given, 3 Committee chairs must be assigned.  Remember you can be on the Committee and a Leader at the same time.
2.  By type, I meant what Pokemon type you will use.  If that field is left blank, then you're applying for a Committee seat.
3.  I just want to make this clear, regardless of whether this field is correct.  It would be your Pokemon Online name, not Elements.
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: RootRanger on April 14, 2012, 03:01:28 am
Legendaries are banned from the League, no matter what the tier.  Competitive battlers will understand what I mean.
No, we won't. Legendaries are just like normal pokemon. Their differences are that they are generally stronger than the average pokemon and they are more difficult to get the right natures and IVs for in-game. The first point is negligible because the overpowered legendaries are banned, just like other overpowered pokemon. The non overpowered legendaries are certainly allowed. Honestly, are you going to ban Articuno and Regigigas while allowing Tyranitar and Dragonite? Seriously? The second point isn't even relevant because playing through PO, or another simulator, is simply better. It's more accessible to players (I haven't even bothered to beat all the gyms in my copy of White, which probably doesn't even have Wifi set up) and takes far less time. Just because some people spent hours training in-game doesn't mean everyone has to. The only places that can pull off such a large Wifi league are forums even larger than this one focused purely on pokemon.

I like the 9-pokemon team. Can things like natures, items, etc. be swapped out?
I also like the single typing for gym leaders and dual for elite members. Clever and effective.

I think the size is too big. By the time you have 8 gym leaders and 4 E4 members, you'll barely have any challengers left. I think it should be halved to 4 gyms and an E2.

Lastly, I don't think it's good to force players to challenge gym leaders and elite members in order. The first few gym leaders will be overwhelmed, while the further gym leaders will rarely have games. I think practicality takes priority over closely following the games.
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: Silver on April 14, 2012, 03:04:27 am
I'd be sooo down for this. Never got into competative Pokemon but I've always been meaning to.
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: einherjar145 on April 14, 2012, 03:07:42 am
1. I would like to join. I just don't know what to be yet :D
2 Legendaries should not be banned and technically some Legendary Pokemon at max IV (ex: Arceus) can lose to a lv 50 pokemon. Yep I did that in PO. :P. So ban the non-OP legends, not all :D
3. Would you mind that I suggest that The Gym Leaders and the Elite Four can have one 'wild card'? Like any type, not just your own. A bit of variety in the mix don't you think?
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: pikachufan2164 on April 14, 2012, 03:13:58 am
@ Pokémon selection bannings

I think it's just easier to use the banlists provided by some of the larger-scale competitive Pokémon communities (like Smogon).

I think the size is too big. By the time you have 8 gym leaders and 4 E4 members, you'll barely have any challengers left. I think it should be halved to 4 gyms and an E2.

Lastly, I don't think it's good to force players to challenge gym leaders and elite members in order. The first few gym leaders will be overwhelmed, while the further gym leaders will rarely have games. I think practicality takes priority over closely following the games.
Alternate solution to the underpopulation problem: have the Gym Leaders and E4 be NPCs, and the players controlling them can have a Challenger character of their own.

Seconding the suggestion of "challenge leaders and E4 in any order," especially since Gen V's E4 can be challenged in any order.
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: tyranim on April 14, 2012, 03:23:20 am
@ Pokémon selection bannings

I think it's just easier to use the banlists provided by some of the larger-scale competitive Pokémon communities (like Smogon).
I think the size is too big. By the time you have 8 gym leaders and 4 E4 members, you'll barely have any challengers left. I think it should be halved to 4 gyms and an E2.

Lastly, I don't think it's good to force players to challenge gym leaders and elite members in order. The first few gym leaders will be overwhelmed, while the further gym leaders will rarely have games. I think practicality takes priority over closely following the games.
Alternate solution to the underpopulation problem: have the Gym Leaders and E4 be NPCs, and the players controlling them can have a Challenger character of their own.

Seconding the suggestion of "challenge leaders and E4 in any order," especially since Gen V's E4 can be challenged in any order.
this. but idk what the banlist is. only reason i would say ban all legendaries is because i personally prefer to never use them due to most of them being op
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: Drake_XIV on April 14, 2012, 03:24:08 am
RootRanger, I had meant in what tiers are.  Of course people will disagree on the usage of Legendaries and/or the limits of Legendary usage.  This system is not judged on power, but canon.

As for League size, I just wanted to use the canon size as a base, to gauge who is willing.  Also, Gym leaders can challenge the League too, so there can be enough people.

As said before, this is merely a base format, meaning that the entire thing can change.  That includes uses of Wildcard Pokemon in League teams, Amount of Positions, and use of lower tier Legendaries.  Also, I have been debating if gyms can be faced in order.  If so, I may be forced to rethink the admission process.

Now, in regards of the party, multiple copies of Held Items can be used, but Pokemon stats and moves can not be changed over one challenge.  However, you may have multiple copies of a Pokemon in your reserves with different natures.  However, they cannot be put in the same team.  For example, you can submit your application with two Salamence on it, one with Moxie, the other Intimidate, but they cannot be used in the same team.

I will ammend the OP later, as I am on my DS.
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: einherjar145 on April 14, 2012, 03:33:18 am
How about this suggestion?

We can face the Gym Leaders and E4 in any order. However, lets say I have 3 badges and I go to a random gym. The Gym Leader would bring out her 4th badge pokemon team. So, number of badges changes the team. So there is still difficulty in the sense that later in the game, it gets harder. 1= easiest. 8= hardest. The team = +1 of their badges amount. Like u have a specific pokemon team and IV for the first gym they faced, 2nd,3rd and so on
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: Jocko on April 14, 2012, 06:53:43 am
I'm going to join this later but its too late, so i'm posting to avoid forgetting about it ^^
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: Drake_XIV on April 14, 2012, 04:50:19 pm
Okay, after some deliberation, here are some changes.

1.  Gym Leaders do not get access to Wildcard Pokemon.  I have found it more challenging to stick with strict Monotypes, as the challenges themselves should not be restricted to the Challengers, but to the League staff as well.  I understand that it can be argued that the fact that Leaders are restricted to Monotypes that it is enough of a challenge, but I have found with [more than adept] Wildcard usage in other Leagues that it is near impossible to beat the entire Gym System, much less an entire League, when one is restricted to only 9 options.  And even then, it leads to lack of creativity in teams as everyone finds the lone set-up that can make it through.  It'd be like an Oracle FG deck.

2.  Gyms may be challenged out of order, as well as members of the Elite 4 whenever they get added again to the system.  That means that the Committee will now have a non-existent role as they will only be considered in Staff changes from Challengers to the Gyms, Gyms to the Elite, or the Elite to Champion.

3.  The Elite 4 will be removed until there are sufficient participants to take the positions.  The Champion position will be later decided when all Gym positions are filled and a competition will be held amongst the Gym Leaders.

4.  Since there is no direct order of challenging, there will be a different system for replacing a League Staff Member.  Note that the challenges for roles may not take place while Challengers are present in that tier.  Also, while the Elite 4 is temporarily removed, anything regarding the Elite 4 should be replaced with the Champion.
  a.  If a Gym Leader, or any staff member for that matter, is inactive in the League for two weeks, their spot immediately goes up for grabs.  Any Challengers that have won something from a now inactive Staff Member keep their awards.
  b.  A Challenger may only challenge a Gym Leader for their position if they have defeated at least one member of the Elite 4.
  c.  A Gym Leader may only challenge an Elite 4 for their position after all of the Elite 4 has been defeated
  d.  An Elite 4 Member may only challenge the Champion once they themselves have beaten the entire League.

5.  I will be instilling a ban list as opposed to restricting any and all Legendaries, considering that yes, there are many sub-par ones.  However, there will be some I will be banning regardless of tier, because, simply, it'd be nice to see some true variation in Challengers' teams.  Amongst these are Heatran, Deoxys [all formes], and Jirachi.  Keep in mind that this list will be amended according to out own "metagame."
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: RavingRabbid on April 17, 2012, 08:30:30 pm
=ç= I love pokemon online.
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: n00b on April 17, 2012, 08:33:29 pm
I'm going to join this later but its too late, so i'm posting to avoid forgetting about it ^^

This for moi as well...
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: regen2k9 on April 17, 2012, 08:40:49 pm
In Pokemon Nationals (yes, they have nationals for pokemon battling), as well as regionals, etc., the only pokemon that are banned are Ubers (search the uber tier on smogon's site).  Like RootRanger stated, non-uber legendaries are allowed.  Just because a pokemon has high stat totals doesn't mean it's OP.  Sometimes, like in the case of Articuno, bad typing make it worse than MANY non-legendaries.  Likewise, non-legendary pokemon with high stat totals and good typing, such as metagross and hydreigon, excel over legendaries with less stat totals and worse typing.  For instance, compare Garchomp, dragon-ground, 600 BST, uber tier, with Regirock, rock, 580 BST, BL tier.  Thus, JUST BECAUSE A POKEMON IS A LEGENDARY DOES NOT MEAN IT IS MORE POWERFUL.
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: RavingRabbid on April 17, 2012, 08:56:51 pm
Garchomp would just be devastating. plznogarchomp.
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: RootRanger on April 17, 2012, 09:01:51 pm
Amongst these are Heatran, Deoxys [all formes], and Jirachi.  Keep in mind that this list will be amended according to out own "metagame."
On websites like Smogon, the tiers are determined by a tested and successful voting system involving opinions from the very best of the game, and only the best players.
Your ban list is determined by 1 person's opinion.
...

To point out an obvious example, banning Heatran and Jirachi causes the Dragon + Magnezone combo to pretty much get out of control. Most of the remaining steels that can take hits from dragons will be trapped and killed by Magnezone, and then the 2-3 dragons on the team will be able to cause huge damage with no steels stopping them. There are still counters and checks, like shed shell and ice shard, but this new rule causes an undesired metagame shift.

As for VGC Rules? VGC is pretty much a different metagame, and an arguably worse one. As RR said, Garchomp is definitely overpowered in OU, and pretty much every major site has agreed on this.
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: regen2k9 on April 17, 2012, 09:14:41 pm
As RR said, Garchomp is definitely overpowered in OU, and pretty much every major site has agreed on this.

Yup.  Garchomp was moved back into OU for a brief stint about a year and a half ago.  It DOMINATED the metagame. 

Also, IMO smogon tiers (and thus, uber/ban lists) should be used.
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: Silver on April 18, 2012, 03:49:23 am
I like Legendaries out for thematic reasons- how about we just use lower tiers where Legendaries aren't so important as checks? I started playing Friday and I have to say I like the RU and UU metagames a lot more than the OU metagame.

If people don't want to miss out on their favourite pokemon we could make it like 1 OU max. I would definitely miss my Vaporeon otherwise.

Also, I'm not quite clear on the rules, but isn't this Mono? In either case I didn't know it was so hardcore serious. Are people going to scour Smogon forums for 1337 teams and do 30 hours of calculations to get the EVs at perfect benchmarks and stuff?
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: Drake_XIV on April 18, 2012, 04:43:26 am
Amongst these are Heatran, Deoxys [all formes], and Jirachi.  Keep in mind that this list will be amended according to out own "metagame."
On websites like Smogon, the tiers are determined by a tested and successful voting system involving opinions from the very best of the game, and only the best players.
Your ban list is determined by 1 person's opinion.
...

Currently, that is the case.  I apologize for not having asked for more input, but my schedule has unfortunately prohibited me from doing so for the time being.

If it would be better, I could take the Smogon banlists, although I do rather detest Smogon...

Regardless of the final outcome on banlists, Garchomp is getting the axe.

I like Legendaries out for thematic reasons- how about we just use lower tiers where Legendaries aren't so important as checks? I started playing Friday and I have to say I like the RU and UU metagames a lot more than the OU metagame.

If people don't want to miss out on their favourite pokemon we could make it like 1 OU max. I would definitely miss my Vaporeon otherwise.

Also, I'm not quite clear on the rules, but isn't this Mono? In either case I didn't know it was so hardcore serious. Are people going to scour Smogon forums for 1337 teams and do 30 hours of calculations to get the EVs at perfect benchmarks and stuff?

I disagree with having to force a tier usage on the challengers, mostly because I'd like to think that they will not all use more or less the same team.

The Mono restriction is only on Gym Leaders.

On a separate note, what are your views on Dream World Pokemon?  Ban them completely, allow only those that have been released in WiFi, or just allow all?
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: einherjar145 on April 18, 2012, 12:59:37 pm
Wifi is my answer. Because those pokemon that can't be obtainable would be a bit too much unless you love fun things like a spamming Leaf Storm Contrary Serperior. ><.
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: regen2k9 on April 18, 2012, 05:00:34 pm
I didn't know it was so hardcore serious. Are people going to scour Smogon forums for 1337 teams and do 30 hours of calculations to get the EVs at perfect benchmarks and stuff?

Honestly, 252, 252, 6 EVs make all the difference (or whatever EV spread you're using, so long as it benefits your pokemon).  Imo it's necessary for playing competitively.  Using BL or UU is a cool idea, but idk how it'll fit in with the concept of gym leaders.  We shouldn't count it out though - I like it.  However, even the inclusion of ONE OU pokemon in the BL and/or UU metagame will screw it up imo.
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: Silver on April 18, 2012, 06:26:13 pm


Honestly, 252, 252, 6 EVs make all the difference (or whatever EV spread you're using, so long as it benefits your pokemon).  Imo it's necessary for playing competitively. 
I mean calculating to put exactly 26 Spec Def and 3 HP so you can take exactly two Uxie Psychics and come out with exactly 1 HP or some BS like that. What I was trying to say is people will probably just pick their favourite pokes and have at it, right? But now that I look at this chat, the people here some pretty knowledgeable so I retract my point. I'm pretty new to this game so I hadn't realized how delicate the Meta is- I thought that Pokes from the lower tiers would be able to fulfill higher tier niches in a sufficient way as checks, but that might not be the case.

Anyways I think that UU would be a lot more fun- it would also make RU and NU Pokemon actually viable, giving people a larger pool of Pokemon to choose from.

@Dream World: I think it adds a lot of fun options, and has given otherwise useless Pokemon nice niches (Sableye, anyone?). I got to try that Serperior thing.
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: 1world24 on April 25, 2012, 10:30:56 pm
I play this on the Jubilife server mostly
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: killsdazombies on April 25, 2012, 10:32:39 pm
Looks fun, installing now.
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: Drake_XIV on April 25, 2012, 10:33:03 pm
I must ask:  How much interest is there in this League?  I know there was some when this was first published, but who is honestly willing to put in the time and effort to take part?
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: killsdazombies on April 25, 2012, 10:34:53 pm
I would love to. In fact im making a team right now.
IGN = Killsdazombies
I would love to be staff, and a gym leader.
Dark gym leader
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: lawrenceleong888 on April 26, 2012, 12:04:40 am
Does anyone know is it possible to connect to the main server online(if there's one) through a proxy? I'm using my university line and everything has to pass through proxy.kk.usm.my port 8080 =="
Whereas for connecting to own server, I've tried and it's successful, and fought against myself by opening two windows simultaneously.

In-game-name shall be Shinobu Vamp
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: Silver on April 26, 2012, 12:22:57 am
IGN = silverwing

Would love to be Psychic gym leader.
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: Drake_XIV on April 26, 2012, 12:25:40 am
I do believe it says to PM me, not to post here, for a position...
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: 1world24 on April 26, 2012, 10:49:58 am
Also i can be a air gym leader/elite 4 since on my server only 1-2 out of about 100 make it through
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: Drake_XIV on April 27, 2012, 01:30:22 am
Also i can be a air gym leader/elite 4 since on my server only 1-2 out of about 100 make it through

Send an Application to me in the forme of a PM.  And no, I'll be taking Flying since I've recently re-obtained PO on my computer.
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: killsdazombies on April 27, 2012, 08:36:02 pm
This is pretty fun, i only wish more people would join.
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: Manatuner on April 27, 2012, 10:08:17 pm
This is an interesting concept. Have downloaded the program, and will definitely look more into it when my schedule frees up...
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: lawrenceleong888 on April 28, 2012, 06:49:23 am
This is an interesting concept. Have downloaded the program, and will definitely look more into it when my schedule frees up...
I've tried it without the stupid university proxy restriction...68 different servers in an instant...642 players in the first server at this moment...I think the number is even higher during 6a.m. GMT+8 this morning...
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: killsdazombies on April 30, 2012, 02:26:25 am
I like this one (PO) over wifi, just because the people are a bit nicer, at least on the server i frequent.
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: Drake_XIV on April 30, 2012, 06:18:47 am
Only 4 Gym Positions Left

Ban List is still to be changed to Smogon standard.

Adding requirement of minimum 30 posts for any prospective members.
Title: Re: Elements Pokemon League - PokemonOnline Branch
Post by: killsdazombies on May 02, 2012, 02:42:52 pm
3 spots left. get em before their gone.
blarg: