[21:48:52] zanzarino: increase minimum = bugger decks[/list](*bigger)
Ya, you'll now be able to do the PU+pegasus/worm deck without aether.I'm sure if that "air blitz" comes out, it'll be using all :air quanta.
You'd still be able to do it without aether.Ya, you'll now be able to do the PU+pegasus/worm deck without aether.I'm sure if that "air blitz" comes out, it'll be using all :air quanta.
I want new cards... And I think turning Top50 into Top500 is not a good idea at all.I think it sounds interesting. We should give it a try before deciding if we like it or not though.
I want new cards... And I think turning Top50 into Top500 is not a good idea at all.I think it's a great idea. It would eliminate rare farming and make rares actually rare again :P
Ok, Zanz, jokes over. Where's the new earth card?This :P
I think it's a great idea. It would eliminate rare farming and make rares actually rare again :PI really dislike rares in the first place. If people want to join and just PvP on a (relatively) level playing field, they should be able to do that without having to grind. Leave the grinding for upgrades or alternate art.
Imagine there are 500 players. In this 500, I bet there will be at least 50 farms, that is 10%. And in 50 players now, there are max 5 farms and that is 10% too. So its pretty much the same. Maybe even Top500 will have more farms.I want new cards... And I think turning Top50 into Top500 is not a good idea at all.I think it's a great idea. It would eliminate rare farming and make rares actually rare again :P
With the suggested system, farms will lose, and therefore be knocked out of the top 500 very fast.Imagine there are 500 players. In this 500, I bet there will be at least 50 farms, that is 10%. And in 50 players now, there are max 5 farms and that is 10% too. So its pretty much the same. Maybe even Top500 will have more farms.I want new cards... And I think turning Top50 into Top500 is not a good idea at all.I think it's a great idea. It would eliminate rare farming and make rares actually rare again :P
off-topic: lukce - do you really need to use a 1,024px × 768px pic for your avatar? >.>Is that big or...? Cause I can't find another cool pic on the internet with smaller resolution.
I don't like changes in general, so it may be a while before I get used to all these new cards and stuff, but this t500 idea sounds interesting. I would actually like this to be AI4 though, and have t50 moved up to AI5, with something like health increase to 150, and keep track of wins/losses there too, so that people would have more motivation to put up decks that will actually win games instead of just handing out rares.Increase health to 150? Thats a bad idea for decks that already have something to gain for winning. Remember based on how well the deck dose it will gain or lose rank, ect.... So now it will be a top 500 with everyone building good decks, so why in gods green earth would you raise thier health to 150 when they are already building fantastic decks.
how could that t500 sound bad to people? It tremendously expands the game, and especially the endgame. Plus it gives players with creativity recognition and not just those who have played 20000 games against the ai3. I suppose t500 plagiarism could be a concern, but that would just lead to the perfect counter as a strategy ... maybe. Not sure, but I'd love to see how it plays out.This is exactly how I feel about possible T500 idea. It will be a huge and epic improvement for the game.
Great idea Zanz!
[21:48:14] zanzarino: T500 rewards are about the same, but... winning 3 times in a row against T500 should give a shot to a rare cardI think this should be emphasized some. Zanz is aware of the issue and likely to compensate for it. This may or may not be as easy as it is now, but it's something. And it's at least somewhat skill based!
[21:48:40] zanzarino: THat way it also replaces the rare farming
[21:48:58] zanzarino: But it is more fun than just clicking until a farm pops up
I still have almost no rares. I will miss the relative ease that the old T50 system used to have due to the generous T50. However I really like this T500 idea as a means to get the best deck available to fight without unfair starting position (AI 5 & 6). I also like the afk farming aspect of good decks (although it comes at a score loss overall). This might reduce grinding (or it may increase it).I'm pretty sure the score loss he references is the score of your deck, not your actual score. Like how he said your deck will start at 0 and go up or down. So if your deck is good enough to stay in the t500 and not drop out you should see at least some profit. I dont think it would be very popular if people lost score whenever they were offline :P.
I don't mind either way, i guess you also got 6 of every rares by now. Noobs shouldn't be that lucky.I want new cards... And I think turning Top50 into Top500 is not a good idea at all.I think it's a great idea. It would eliminate rare farming and make rares actually rare again :P
I don't mind either way, i guess you also got 6 of every rares by now. Noobs shouldn't be that lucky.I want new cards... And I think turning Top50 into Top500 is not a good idea at all.I think it's a great idea. It would eliminate rare farming and make rares actually rare again :P
As in, if he has no SoG's, something I've been crying and farming over for a while already, the chance to get it, will be, on the least, very small, or non-existent.Donate. This is a sure way to get Shards of any type, and ensures that Zanz can keep developing this game.
I don't have 6 of every rare. not even close, actually. I just like the idea of rare cards being, you know, actually rare. And newbs won't have a harder time getting rares. Remember, every 3 wins you get in the t500 you get a chance to spin for a rare card. Playing a lot against the t500 seems like a good way of being able to get rares, but not as easy as when there were farms.I don't mind either way, i guess you also got 6 of every rares by now. Noobs shouldn't be that lucky.I want new cards... And I think turning Top50 into Top500 is not a good idea at all.I think it's a great idea. It would eliminate rare farming and make rares actually rare again :P
Except that many people can't donate, by either not having the money, not having the ways to donate, not having dollars, or being under the age to donate.As in, if he has no SoG's, something I've been crying and farming over for a while already, the chance to get it, will be, on the least, very small, or non-existent.Donate. This is a sure way to get Shards of any type, and ensures that Zanz can keep developing this game.
If you have money, period, you can get it exchanged online. I believe paypal handles stuff like that.Except that many people can't donate, by either not having the money, not having the ways to donate, not having dollars, or being under the age to donate.As in, if he has no SoG's, something I've been crying and farming over for a while already, the chance to get it, will be, on the least, very small, or non-existent.Donate. This is a sure way to get Shards of any type, and ensures that Zanz can keep developing this game.
Doesn't really fixes the other facts. I myself never handled paypal so I wouldn't know. One way or another, let's go back on topic and enjoy the new improvements. But what kind of new AI? AI3 and AI2 remake or New AI?If you have money, period, you can get it exchanged online. I believe paypal handles stuff like that.Except that many people can't donate, by either not having the money, not having the ways to donate, not having dollars, or being under the age to donate.As in, if he has no SoG's, something I've been crying and farming over for a while already, the chance to get it, will be, on the least, very small, or non-existent.Donate. This is a sure way to get Shards of any type, and ensures that Zanz can keep developing this game.
Ok now let me say something again. If only good players with high enough score enter Top50 now, in Top500 there will be not that good players. For me, Top50 is to see how good are you and see how can you do against advanced players, see how good-working you deck is. And yeah, probably the 'rares' are not so rare now. And I don't like the oracle deck idea. Example: if he gives you a nymph and you only have 1 f that nymph, how will you make a deck with at least 5 copies of that card???But like Zanz said, the score for Top500 will be like a dairy score, not your total score that you already have.
The worst thing that will come because of the T500 is the lack of rares for the newbies. As in, if he has no SoG's, something I've been crying and farming over for a while already, the chance to get it, will be, on the least, very small, or non-existent. The chances to get 12x of every rare (As most do have that thought, the thought of getting 6 upped and 6 un-upped, that, I too, want) will be pretty narrowed down. Shards, as of now, will turn into pretty much a advantage over the other opponents in PvP2.Farm as much as you can now. Maybe I´ll farm to get 12 of each weapon...but I have at least 6 of each, I´m not worried about this. Sorry for the newbies.
But then again, most have them all by now. One way or another, I bet there are people still clicking that T50 button like mad now, before the T500.
how about to prevent people from spamming T500 with farms (probably not gonna happen but perhaps) or even just to make things consistent, its impossible to win a rare from T500 except by from the 3 in a row thingFarms won't last in the T500, since they'd pretty much always lose. They'd drop out very fast, only lasting an hour or two at the max, most likely.
New Cards
New Features - T50 Change
[21:39:06] zanzarino: With the current T50 rares are close to a joke...
[21:39:48] zanzarino: I have been working on turning T50 into some kind of async pvp
[21:43:24] zanzarino: Anyway... I intend to turn T50 into T500
[21:43:35] zanzarino: Where there are 500 decks created by players
[21:43:40] zanzarino: Instead of 50 players
[21:43:57] zanzarino: The T500 decks can be created only once per day
[21:44:17] zanzarino: And would gain electrum while the player is afk IF they win against other players
[21:44:36] zanzarino: The T500 deck has to follow the oracle's directions
[21:44:50] zanzarino: Meaning it has to contain 5 copies of the card given by the oracle
[21:45:00] zanzarino: (We do not want 500 copies of the same deck)
[21:45:10] zanzarino: If your deck wins it gains rank
[21:45:18] zanzarino: If it loses it goes down
[21:45:29] zanzarino: until it gets >500 and it's out
[21:45:54] zanzarino: Decks in top 10 gain extra money
[21:46:42] zanzarino: Your score has nothing to do with t500
[21:46:56] zanzarino: Your new deck will start at score 0 and enter T500
[21:47:10] zanzarino: every time it loses it will go in the negative
[21:47:25] zanzarino: if it wins... in the positive (unlikely)
[21:48:14] zanzarino: T500 rewards are about the same, but... winning 3 times in a row against T500 should give a shot to a rare card
[21:48:40] zanzarino: THat way it also replaces the rare farming
[21:48:58] zanzarino: But it is more fun than just clicking until a farm pops up
[21:50:25] zanzarino: DEcks in the T500 will also age... everyday they lose some score
[21:50:45] zanzarino: That way we do not get a perfect deck stuck in the first position
[22:11:34] zanzarino: You get to create only 1 deck per day: the deck will enter T500 immediately... close to position 250
[22:12:05] zanzarino: If it is a good one it will climb toward rank 1 gaining money
[22:12:21] zanzarino: If it is a bad one it will fall out of T500 soon
[22:13:01] zanzarino: If T500 is not enough i'll turn it into a T5000
[22:13:21] zanzarino: Until everyone gets a chance to have their deck in the system at least for a few hours
[22:13:51] zanzarino: deck wins = gains score / moeny
[22:14:01] zanzarino: deck loses = loses score
[22:14:15] zanzarino: Since the AI will lose more than winnning on the average
[22:16:09] zanzarino: Anyway... If it will be a T500 your deck will enter in position 250
[22:16:24] zanzarino: If it is better than average it will go up
[22:16:37] zanzarino: If it is worse than average it will go down
..snipI guess that will depend on how much :electrum can be won from both winning the top500 and for the deck owner itself. If you are winning much more from winning the deck, I don't think that will be a problem.
Can this be exploited? Teams of players submitting decks and then as they play the Top500 deliberately forfeit to their own teams decks. They will be gaining a return from their deck winning and extra return from their teams decks being in the top10 while losing only a little to the loss of playing.
Can AI5 have a rare seed matching its mark added to spins to make it worth playing?^^ This.
2 more cards in the worksFixed to include the other three lines of Zanz's explanations, in case the community would like to see ;)
[02:22:03 AM] jmdt: any news on a gravity card zanz?
[02:22:33 AM] zanzarino: Nope... still working on teh art
[02:22:40 AM] zanzarino: the*
[02:25:58 AM] zanzarino: I am also working on a sanctuary card: your hand and your quanta pull are immune to any disturbance during your opponent turn. gain 2 hp/turn. Permanent
[02:26:09 AM] zanzarino: Light card
[02:26:31 AM] zanzarino: However it also fits earth (with the name changed in fortress/castle/whatever)
[02:28:03 AM] zanzarino: yes I meant quanta pool... oh my ... I should get some sleep
[11:30:04 PM] zanzarino: Uhm yes, the idea is to counter silence as well
[02:31:09 AM] zanzarino: And of course sanctuary can be destroyed if you really count on silence/nightmare/discord/whatever for your strategy
[02:31:24 PM] zanzarino: Which is why i like it being in light much better
[02:31:59 PM] zanzarino: Yes it would be too easy to PA it in the earth element
[02:32:22 AM] zanzarino: Not too high, you need it soon or it useless
[02:32:38 AM] zanzarino: Not too low, it would end up in every single deck
[02:32:49 AM] suxerz: 4?
[02:32:58 AM] suxerz: or zero cost.. heheh..
[02:33:07 AM] zanzarino: between 3 and 7... need to try it first
Yeay! Another :light card! No more discord hax/pest/silence/BH/or whateva BS to prevent miracle!Excellent!
In all honesty I think now that there will be something in place to stop farms (i.e. the t500) we should be able to win upgraded cards off of the t500. It's only fair. Take one thing away, give us a replacement.No, just no. That would mean it would be pointless to fight FG's. And though the T500 would be taking away the ability to farm rares(which we shouldn't even have had in the first place, so we shouldn't get something to replace that) he will give up the ability to spin for rares every 3 duels. So that's the replacement for rare farms.
*zanz nerfs miracles so upped takes 3 quanta to pay and unnuped takes 29.5 quanta to play* darnit!!!!Yeay! Another :light card! No more discord hax/pest/silence/BH/or whateva BS to prevent miracle!Excellent!
Is this update expected somewhere around New Year?It's expected when it's ready.
Well not as many people were really against farms... I know it defeats the purpose of getting rares, but some games are made to defeat the system and find alternate routes (i.e. shortcuts) It's not cheating. It's like camping in Call of Duty. You just wait until you get the kill (aka, the card). What is there was a possibility of the first spin being an upped card spin, while the second two are regular. That seems like a pretty good idea. And no I'd rather not receive any more harsh remarks, thank you kindly.In all honesty I think now that there will be something in place to stop farms (i.e. the t500) we should be able to win upgraded cards off of the t500. It's only fair. Take one thing away, give us a replacement.No, just no. That would mean it would be pointless to fight FG's. And though the T500 would be taking away the ability to farm rares(which we shouldn't even have had in the first place, so we shouldn't get something to replace that) he will give up the ability to spin for rares every 3 duels. So that's the replacement for rare farms.
i find it slightly repulsive that you compare elements and CoD. they are two totally different games and elements its much better multiplayerWell not as many people were really against farms... I know it defeats the purpose of getting rares, but some games are made to defeat the system and find alternate routes (i.e. shortcuts) It's not cheating. It's like camping in Call of Duty. You just wait until you get the kill (aka, the card). What is there was a possibility of the first spin being an upped card spin, while the second two are regular. That seems like a pretty good idea. And no I'd rather not receive any more harsh remarks, thank you kindly.In all honesty I think now that there will be something in place to stop farms (i.e. the t500) we should be able to win upgraded cards off of the t500. It's only fair. Take one thing away, give us a replacement.No, just no. That would mean it would be pointless to fight FG's. And though the T500 would be taking away the ability to farm rares(which we shouldn't even have had in the first place, so we shouldn't get something to replace that) he will give up the ability to spin for rares every 3 duels. So that's the replacement for rare farms.
I don't know what harsh remark you are talking about, but if i came across that way, my bad :) i didn't mean to at all. But the idea of winning upgraded cards from T500 just wouldn't be a good idea, even if it was only the first spin. It would still mke fighting the FG's have less meaning because there is a good chance that T500 will be easier than the FGs. Decks will be made to be effective, sure, but they also have to use a number of copies of a card given from the oracle. Which makes the deck slightly less better in many cases. Not all cards have the same effectiveness when it comes to decks being built around them. So overall, decks would be easier to defeat than the FGs. Not to mention they'd only be as fast as you. They wouldn't have the quanta production and draw power of the FGs. It would make getting upped cards from FGs only second best, and the gap between second and first would be somewhat large.Well not as many people were really against farms... I know it defeats the purpose of getting rares, but some games are made to defeat the system and find alternate routes (i.e. shortcuts) It's not cheating. It's like camping in Call of Duty. You just wait until you get the kill (aka, the card). What is there was a possibility of the first spin being an upped card spin, while the second two are regular. That seems like a pretty good idea. And no I'd rather not receive any more harsh remarks, thank you kindly.In all honesty I think now that there will be something in place to stop farms (i.e. the t500) we should be able to win upgraded cards off of the t500. It's only fair. Take one thing away, give us a replacement.No, just no. That would mean it would be pointless to fight FG's. And though the T500 would be taking away the ability to farm rares(which we shouldn't even have had in the first place, so we shouldn't get something to replace that) he will give up the ability to spin for rares every 3 duels. So that's the replacement for rare farms.
You have no made my decision sway. Thank you for what seems as a much kinder reply. It makes much more sense to me. @927, To compare two unlike things is called a metaphor and there is nothing wrong with that.I don't know what harsh remark you are talking about, but if i came across that way, my bad :) i didn't mean to at all. But the idea of winning upgraded cards from T500 just wouldn't be a good idea, even if it was only the first spin. It would still mke fighting the FG's have less meaning because there is a good chance that T500 will be easier than the FGs. Decks will be made to be effective, sure, but they also have to use a number of copies of a card given from the oracle. Which makes the deck slightly less better in many cases. Not all cards have the same effectiveness when it comes to decks being built around them. So overall, decks would be easier to defeat than the FGs. Not to mention they'd only be as fast as you. They wouldn't have the quanta production and draw power of the FGs. It would make getting upped cards from FGs only second best, and the gap between second and first would be somewhat large.Well not as many people were really against farms... I know it defeats the purpose of getting rares, but some games are made to defeat the system and find alternate routes (i.e. shortcuts) It's not cheating. It's like camping in Call of Duty. You just wait until you get the kill (aka, the card). What is there was a possibility of the first spin being an upped card spin, while the second two are regular. That seems like a pretty good idea. And no I'd rather not receive any more harsh remarks, thank you kindly.In all honesty I think now that there will be something in place to stop farms (i.e. the t500) we should be able to win upgraded cards off of the t500. It's only fair. Take one thing away, give us a replacement.No, just no. That would mean it would be pointless to fight FG's. And though the T500 would be taking away the ability to farm rares(which we shouldn't even have had in the first place, so we shouldn't get something to replace that) he will give up the ability to spin for rares every 3 duels. So that's the replacement for rare farms.
/me is excited by the idea of Sanctuary.Perhaps make it so you have to have a Light mark for it to work. That way rainbows can't get it without sacrificing something else.
The only problem with that card is that if it's too expensive, it won't effectively prevent denial because the denial will kick in before it does. I wouldn't go much past 4 :light unnupped.
NOOO1-ji412jo
i hate sanctuary
i hate it
i dont want this card
this totally kills strategies
but , worse than anything else, it kills pests
whatever kills pests isnt worth being put in the game
NO TO SANCTUARY
i will start a petition
1-ji412jo
Feel free to add your name to the list
Well it seems that whomever uses Darkness hates this card, worse than anyone can hate Pests, while whomever hates Darkness doesn't care about us getting UP and getting derived of the backbone of our decks. Darkness is slow, we make up for it with Pests, if they are rendered useless then we need something to compensate it (immolation-like Dark Sacrifice? xP).....
It's not like Light doesn't have enough counters to Darkness already. :o
Well it seems that whomever uses Darkness hates this card, worse than anyone can hate Pests, while whomever hates Darkness doesn't care about us getting UP and getting derived of the backbone of our decks. Darkness is slow, we make up for it with Pests, if they are rendered useless then we need something to compensate it (immolation-like Dark Sacrifice? xP).....I only said I support the card idea. I'd have no problem about dark getting a way round the card if it were to be implemented.
It's not like Light doesn't have enough counters to Darkness already. :o
I agree with getting Bargain with Darkness =DWell it seems that whomever uses Darkness hates this card, worse than anyone can hate Pests, while whomever hates Darkness doesn't care about us getting UP and getting derived of the backbone of our decks. Darkness is slow, we make up for it with Pests, if they are rendered useless then we need something to compensate it (immolation-like Dark Sacrifice? xP).....
It's not like Light doesn't have enough counters to Darkness already. :o
Could always make Crusader into Dark Crusader for us.
Could also gives "Bargain with Darkness"
Darkness can always steal it.. :)^ This.
Of course, we still need buffs for this patch. FFQ lower cost, perhaps? ::)Pharaohs want to have a word with you.
Of course, we still need buffs for this patch. FFQ lower cost, perhaps? ::)In this case, ffq would need unnerfed. ffq was one of the cards that got the nerf stick back when SG's rainbow won like 90% versus the fg's. If any of these cards gets unnerfed, I'd like to see the cost of bond lowered.
Q: If I get Green Nymph from Oracle, do I have to have 5 Green Nymphs to enter it?A: The oracle will give directions on the rules, it might have nothing to do with the card you spin.
[21:44:36] zanzarino: The T500 deck has to follow the oracle's directionsGiven - as in given in the instructions.
[21:44:50] zanzarino: Meaning it has to contain 5 copies of the card given by the oracle
I'm guessing those go together, and it will always have to do with the card you spin.
That's just an assumption, Kael. What Zanz says most probably refers to the card the oracle gives you via spin. But until we get confirmation from Zanz, it's all just speculation on how he meant that sentence.[21:44:36] zanzarino: The T500 deck has to follow the oracle's directionsGiven - as in given in the instructions.
[21:44:50] zanzarino: Meaning it has to contain 5 copies of the card given by the oracle
I'm guessing those go together, and it will always have to do with the card you spin.
Not given as the card shown from the spin.
Like a pet or the FG or the cash given, it does not have anything to do with the card shown.
That's just an assumption, Kael. What Zanz says most probably refers to the card the oracle gives you via spin. But until we get confirmation from Zanz, it's all just speculation on how he meant that sentence.[21:44:36] zanzarino: The T500 deck has to follow the oracle's directionsGiven - as in given in the instructions.
[21:44:50] zanzarino: Meaning it has to contain 5 copies of the card given by the oracle
I'm guessing those go together, and it will always have to do with the card you spin.
Not given as the card shown from the spin.
Like a pet or the FG or the cash given, it does not have anything to do with the card shown.
Q: If I get Green Nymph from Oracle, do I have to have 5 Green Nymphs to enter it?A: The oracle will give directions on the rules, it might have nothing to do with the card you spin.
What you said before, and what you said that I quoted said two different things. Your answer used might while the other part you said was you giving something definitive, I was just correcting :PThat's just an assumption, Kael. What Zanz says most probably refers to the card the oracle gives you via spin. But until we get confirmation from Zanz, it's all just speculation on how he meant that sentence.[21:44:36] zanzarino: The T500 deck has to follow the oracle's directionsGiven - as in given in the instructions.
[21:44:50] zanzarino: Meaning it has to contain 5 copies of the card given by the oracle
I'm guessing those go together, and it will always have to do with the card you spin.
Not given as the card shown from the spin.
Like a pet or the FG or the cash given, it does not have anything to do with the card shown.Q: If I get Green Nymph from Oracle, do I have to have 5 Green Nymphs to enter it?A: The oracle will give directions on the rules, it might have nothing to do with the card you spin.
Well when we go back up the quotes I had said "might" have nothing to do with the spin and Zanz earlier had used given when refering to other things the oracle does other than the card shown. And if for some reason it is based on the card shown and its rare and you can't build the deck, I guess its just too bad you won't be able to sumbit that day.
Seriously? is there any more correctness in one statement than the other when neither is directly clarative and Zanz hasn't even put the architecture into place in a pre-cursory stage?What you said before, and what you said that I quoted said two different things. Your answer used might while the other part you said was you giving something definitive, I was just correcting :PThat's just an assumption, Kael. What Zanz says most probably refers to the card the oracle gives you via spin. But until we get confirmation from Zanz, it's all just speculation on how he meant that sentence.[21:44:36] zanzarino: The T500 deck has to follow the oracle's directionsGiven - as in given in the instructions.
[21:44:50] zanzarino: Meaning it has to contain 5 copies of the card given by the oracle
I'm guessing those go together, and it will always have to do with the card you spin.
Not given as the card shown from the spin.
Like a pet or the FG or the cash given, it does not have anything to do with the card shown.Q: If I get Green Nymph from Oracle, do I have to have 5 Green Nymphs to enter it?A: The oracle will give directions on the rules, it might have nothing to do with the card you spin.
Well when we go back up the quotes I had said "might" have nothing to do with the spin and Zanz earlier had used given when refering to other things the oracle does other than the card shown. And if for some reason it is based on the card shown and its rare and you can't build the deck, I guess its just too bad you won't be able to sumbit that day.
"it does not have anything to do with the card shown."Seriously? is there any more correctness in one statement than the other when neither is directly clarative and Zanz hasn't even put the architecture into place in a pre-cursory stage?What you said before, and what you said that I quoted said two different things. Your answer used might while the other part you said was you giving something definitive, I was just correcting :PThat's just an assumption, Kael. What Zanz says most probably refers to the card the oracle gives you via spin. But until we get confirmation from Zanz, it's all just speculation on how he meant that sentence.[21:44:36] zanzarino: The T500 deck has to follow the oracle's directionsGiven - as in given in the instructions.
[21:44:50] zanzarino: Meaning it has to contain 5 copies of the card given by the oracle
I'm guessing those go together, and it will always have to do with the card you spin.
Not given as the card shown from the spin.
Like a pet or the FG or the cash given, it does not have anything to do with the card shown.Q: If I get Green Nymph from Oracle, do I have to have 5 Green Nymphs to enter it?A: The oracle will give directions on the rules, it might have nothing to do with the card you spin.
Well when we go back up the quotes I had said "might" have nothing to do with the spin and Zanz earlier had used given when refering to other things the oracle does other than the card shown. And if for some reason it is based on the card shown and its rare and you can't build the deck, I guess its just too bad you won't be able to sumbit that day.
Its only definitive if you take half the sentence. If you take the full sentence instead of half quoting me you would show that I was refering to the pet, FG, and cash given by the oracle as not having anything to do with the card shown.Seriously? is there any more correctness in one statement than the other when neither is directly clarative and Zanz hasn't even put the architecture into place in a pre-cursory stage?"it does not have anything to do with the card shown."
^ that part. That's rather definitive.
Darkness can always steal it.. :)That may not be the case.
Even if Light has many immaterial permanents, making Sanctuary immaterial would be a big mistake. Uncounterable things are bad (see the Silence thread).Zanz said sanctuary could be destroyed. steal > sanctuary for pest decks.
If Sanctuary protects your hand as well, could the old Dune Scorpion come back? That would be a needed buff, and there is now a direct counter to it.Id actually like the current dune scorpion to stay, and then a new card that was like the old dune scorpion come
Suggestion on Implementation of T500 Submitable decks.Sound like a Kael Card... :P
1. When visiting the Oracle it chooses 10 cards divided between up to 5 types of which its adds to a deck tool.
2. Those cards cannot be removed from the deck and do not come from your collection.
3. Those cards may be any level, or rarity.
4. you have to build the rest you want to submit a deck.
5. The instructions are saved to the account so that they can be reaccessed at anytime to submit the deck until the oracle is spun again.
Ie. Today I spin the Oracle and get Entropy Nymph. Graboid Pet, Miracle FG, 300 Electrum and deck instructions 3x Entropy Nymph, 3x Flying Weapon, and 4x Chaos Power.
In Manage deck I select T500 deck button and a deck window is open with those 10 cards already added in the first column and unmoveable. I then add anot 20 cards to complete the deck and save to the deck archive.
When I open the T500 deck button again it tells me I have already submitted the deck and tells me my score is +10 because it has beaten 10 users. and earnt me 50 electrum. I confirm the electrum.
Tomorrow I spin the Oracle and get Quantum pillar. no pet, Ferox FG, 15 electrum and deck instructions, 8x Quantam Pillar, 2x Arctic Squid.
In Manage deck I select the T500 deck button and it tells me I already have a deck submitted and my score is -50 because it is now older and losing but has earnt me another 10 electrum from wins. It asks me if I would like to terminate this deck or close.
I choose terminate and it now shows me the new deck with todays 10 cards ready to build a deck.
Sound suitable or has issues?
Suggestion on Implementation of T500 Submitable decks.Loaning the "must include" cards to the player is a good idea, though it would probably be better if decks automatically terminated every time the required cards changes. As such, having the required cards change every 2-3 days would be more reasonable.
1. When visiting the Oracle it chooses 10 cards divided between up to 5 types of which its adds to a deck tool.
2. Those cards cannot be removed from the deck and do not come from your collection.
3. Those cards may be any level, or rarity.
4. you have to build the rest you want to submit a deck.
5. The instructions are saved to the account so that they can be reaccessed at anytime to submit the deck until the oracle is spun again.
Ie. Today I spin the Oracle and get Entropy Nymph. Graboid Pet, Miracle FG, 300 Electrum and deck instructions 3x Entropy Nymph, 3x Flying Weapon, and 4x Chaos Power.
In Manage deck I select T500 deck button and a deck window is open with those 10 cards already added in the first column and unmoveable. I then add anot 20 cards to complete the deck and save to the deck archive.
When I open the T500 deck button again it tells me I have already submitted the deck and tells me my score is +10 because it has beaten 10 users. and earnt me 50 electrum. I confirm the electrum.
Tomorrow I spin the Oracle and get Quantum pillar. no pet, Ferox FG, 15 electrum and deck instructions, 8x Quantam Pillar, 2x Arctic Squid.
In Manage deck I select the T500 deck button and it tells me I already have a deck submitted and my score is -50 because it is now older and losing but has earnt me another 10 electrum from wins. It asks me if I would like to terminate this deck or close.
I choose terminate and it now shows me the new deck with todays 10 cards ready to build a deck.
Sound suitable or has issues?
Suggestion on Implementation of T500 Submitable decks.Sounds rather overcomplicated. It would be better if there was just another section built into the Oracle that gives you the name of one non-rare card. You then can choose to build a deck using 5 of that card(buying more copies from the bazaar if need be) or you can not build a deck around that card and go about your day as normal. But then, when you go to submit your deck, you will get an error message popping up saying your deck will not be submitted because you do not have 5 copies of (card) in your deck. If you do have 5 copies of that card if told you, then it submits your deck and you can go about the rest of your day as normal.
1. When visiting the Oracle it chooses 10 cards divided between up to 5 types of which its adds to a deck tool.
2. Those cards cannot be removed from the deck and do not come from your collection.
3. Those cards may be any level, or rarity.
4. you have to build the rest you want to submit a deck.
5. The instructions are saved to the account so that they can be reaccessed at anytime to submit the deck until the oracle is spun again.
Ie. Today I spin the Oracle and get Entropy Nymph. Graboid Pet, Miracle FG, 300 Electrum and deck instructions 3x Entropy Nymph, 3x Flying Weapon, and 4x Chaos Power.
In Manage deck I select T500 deck button and a deck window is open with those 10 cards already added in the first column and unmoveable. I then add anot 20 cards to complete the deck and save to the deck archive.
When I open the T500 deck button again it tells me I have already submitted the deck and tells me my score is +10 because it has beaten 10 users. and earnt me 50 electrum. I confirm the electrum.
Tomorrow I spin the Oracle and get Quantum pillar. no pet, Ferox FG, 15 electrum and deck instructions, 8x Quantam Pillar, 2x Arctic Squid.
In Manage deck I select the T500 deck button and it tells me I already have a deck submitted and my score is -50 because it is now older and losing but has earnt me another 10 electrum from wins. It asks me if I would like to terminate this deck or close.
I choose terminate and it now shows me the new deck with todays 10 cards ready to build a deck.
Sound suitable or has issues?
Kael was working with this:Suggestion on Implementation of T500 Submitable decks.Sounds rather overcomplicated. It would be better if there was just another section built into the Oracle that gives you the name of one non-rare card. You then can choose to build a deck using 5 of that card(buying more copies from the bazaar if need be) or you can not build a deck around that card and go about your day as normal. But then, when you go to submit your deck, you will get an error message popping up saying your deck will not be submitted because you do not have 5 copies of (card) in your deck. If you do have 5 copies of that card if told you, then it submits your deck and you can go about the rest of your day as normal.
1. When visiting the Oracle it chooses 10 cards divided between up to 5 types of which its adds to a deck tool.
2. Those cards cannot be removed from the deck and do not come from your collection.
3. Those cards may be any level, or rarity.
4. you have to build the rest you want to submit a deck.
5. The instructions are saved to the account so that they can be reaccessed at anytime to submit the deck until the oracle is spun again.
Ie. Today I spin the Oracle and get Entropy Nymph. Graboid Pet, Miracle FG, 300 Electrum and deck instructions 3x Entropy Nymph, 3x Flying Weapon, and 4x Chaos Power.
In Manage deck I select T500 deck button and a deck window is open with those 10 cards already added in the first column and unmoveable. I then add anot 20 cards to complete the deck and save to the deck archive.
When I open the T500 deck button again it tells me I have already submitted the deck and tells me my score is +10 because it has beaten 10 users. and earnt me 50 electrum. I confirm the electrum.
Tomorrow I spin the Oracle and get Quantum pillar. no pet, Ferox FG, 15 electrum and deck instructions, 8x Quantam Pillar, 2x Arctic Squid.
In Manage deck I select the T500 deck button and it tells me I already have a deck submitted and my score is -50 because it is now older and losing but has earnt me another 10 electrum from wins. It asks me if I would like to terminate this deck or close.
I choose terminate and it now shows me the new deck with todays 10 cards ready to build a deck.
Sound suitable or has issues?
That way you proposed adds a few different mechanics that need to be added to the game, on top of the t500. The less work the better, in my mind. Also, it seems the way you are proposing it is that you have to make a deck with the cards the oracle gives you, which I think is in bad taste because not everyone will want to make a t500 deck.
You misunderstood what I said, just as I had misunderstood Kael earlier.Kael was working with this:Suggestion on Implementation of T500 Submitable decks.Sounds rather overcomplicated. It would be better if there was just another section built into the Oracle that gives you the name of one non-rare card. You then can choose to build a deck using 5 of that card(buying more copies from the bazaar if need be) or you can not build a deck around that card and go about your day as normal. But then, when you go to submit your deck, you will get an error message popping up saying your deck will not be submitted because you do not have 5 copies of (card) in your deck. If you do have 5 copies of that card if told you, then it submits your deck and you can go about the rest of your day as normal.
1. When visiting the Oracle it chooses 10 cards divided between up to 5 types of which its adds to a deck tool.
2. Those cards cannot be removed from the deck and do not come from your collection.
3. Those cards may be any level, or rarity.
4. you have to build the rest you want to submit a deck.
5. The instructions are saved to the account so that they can be reaccessed at anytime to submit the deck until the oracle is spun again.
Ie. Today I spin the Oracle and get Entropy Nymph. Graboid Pet, Miracle FG, 300 Electrum and deck instructions 3x Entropy Nymph, 3x Flying Weapon, and 4x Chaos Power.
In Manage deck I select T500 deck button and a deck window is open with those 10 cards already added in the first column and unmoveable. I then add anot 20 cards to complete the deck and save to the deck archive.
When I open the T500 deck button again it tells me I have already submitted the deck and tells me my score is +10 because it has beaten 10 users. and earnt me 50 electrum. I confirm the electrum.
Tomorrow I spin the Oracle and get Quantum pillar. no pet, Ferox FG, 15 electrum and deck instructions, 8x Quantam Pillar, 2x Arctic Squid.
In Manage deck I select the T500 deck button and it tells me I already have a deck submitted and my score is -50 because it is now older and losing but has earnt me another 10 electrum from wins. It asks me if I would like to terminate this deck or close.
I choose terminate and it now shows me the new deck with todays 10 cards ready to build a deck.
Sound suitable or has issues?
That way you proposed adds a few different mechanics that need to be added to the game, on top of the t500. The less work the better, in my mind. Also, it seems the way you are proposing it is that you have to make a deck with the cards the oracle gives you, which I think is in bad taste because not everyone will want to make a t500 deck.
[21:44:36] zanzarino: The T500 deck has to follow the oracle's directions
[21:44:50] zanzarino: Meaning it has to contain 5 copies of the card given by the oracle
So naturally, his suggestion would use that. If it isn't done with the "loaning" then people without at least 5X every rare and/or nymph would be at a disadvantage whenever they spun one (or whenever the oracle told them to use nymphs/rares they don't have)
Regarding the single card to make a deck and why I said 10 cards of up to 5 types.If everyone is putting up rush decks in the T500, players will come up with anti rush decks to counter them. Once T500 comes out, people will find decks to beat them depending on the current T500 meta.
With only a single card you can almost ignore that card and build the rest of the deck as a default style. Nova/Graboid and Immo/phoenix can use that card and some pends as a sub element and can out rush most decks. Also Anyone can make a farm with the required card in a sub slot. Whereas 10 cards of different types means the deck is redundant as a farm and spurns some creativity as the player has to make the combo of cards work lest it just fall out of score.
Mini-update:YES! I will instantly start farming AI5!!!... well... instant as in when it hits beta...
zanzarino: t500 is not going to happen this year
[01:03:52] zanzarino: My best guess is June 2011
zanzarino: It's actually time to update AI3 with something a little more challenging
[01:10:36] zanzarino: I already increased the% OF UPGRADED CARDS FOR ai5 IN THE TRAINER
[01:13:14] zanzarino: It is set at 30% at the moment
[03:24:18] RootRanger: ahI suppose it's mandatory for everyone to say 'hi zanz'. ::)
[03:24:47] zanzarino: Good... lots of people in the chatroom
[03:24:57] Kamietsu: Hey zanz
[03:24:57] Jen-I: hey zanz
[03:25:03] zanzarino: I just updated the trainer with some new stuff
[03:25:04] Kamietsu: Something for us to test?
[03:25:06] Kuroaitou: Heya Zanz :D
[03:25:08] Dragoon1140: Hello Zanz.
[03:25:08] EvaRia: cool!
[03:25:10] 1chase1996: hey zanz whats up
[03:25:11] Kuroaitou: O.o
[03:25:11] iglidichyzzx: dragoon ur old youtube acc sucks no offence
[03:25:12] EvaRia: hiyas zanz
[03:25:13] Dragoon1140: New stuff...?
[03:25:22] Jen-I: cool - you have a link to what was updated?
[03:25:23] zanzarino: I added a "you lost" screen that lays on top of the game field instead of clearing it
[03:25:23] Dragoon1140: I know igli, even I'll admit it's horrible.
[03:25:35] Jen-I: nice
[03:25:35] RootRanger: ooh yay
[03:25:35] zanzarino: That way it does not feel like omg the game crashed and I lost
[03:25:40] Dragoon1140: Woah, that's cool... and random. :D
[03:25:40] Kamietsu: Oh, nice, Zanz :D
[03:25:41] iglidichyzzx:
[03:25:45] 9270984: waoh i leave and zanz is here
[03:25:46] EvaRia: ooh that's nice
[03:25:48] Kuroaitou: lol XD
[03:25:50] 9270984: hi zanz
[03:25:51] Terroking: Hey Zanz :D
[03:26:00] Kuroaitou: Interesting change though
[03:26:04] Thatnewguy: hey zanz
[03:26:06] 1chase1996: wow thats.. helpful.... i think
[03:26:08] Lokiburn: YES!! Haha, I just locked down rainbow with a FULL board of malignant cells. Sweet
[03:26:09] EvaRia: does that mean we can SS the game after we lost?
[03:26:09] guest-0520: hi zanz
[03:26:12] Jen-I: I like the feel of that
[03:26:14] ddevans96z: that sounds cool
[03:26:17] Dragoon1140: Is there anything else that's new in the Trainer?
[03:26:18] zanzarino: And, since it felt like catapult did not have much interaction with other element I added a little bit of easter egg twists
[03:26:20] Terroking: By the way, I noticed a discrepancy in the Wings text, the unupped version does not say "Shield:" only the upped
[03:26:22] 1chase1996: wow it looks awesome
[03:26:24] Dragoon1140: Yes, Eva.
[03:26:31] zanzarino: frozen creatures get 20% binus on damage
[03:26:38] ddevans96z: ooh. easter eggs!
[03:26:38] EvaRia: ooh
[03:26:38] Dragoon1140: !
[03:26:40] Terroking: We're going to have to find out what those are then :P
[03:26:44] Kuroaitou: !
[03:26:44] Kamietsu: Oh nice :D
[03:26:48] Kuroaitou: Say what?
[03:26:54] EvaRia: those are always fun =]
[03:26:55] Kamietsu: The lost screen looks great Zanz.
[03:26:58] zanzarino: and poisoned ones transfer the poison counter to the opponent
[03:27:00] TimerClock14: back
[03:27:03] Kuroaitou: Someone quote that NOW!
[03:27:06] 1chase1996: cool soul catcher
[03:27:10] Kamietsu: I see you add a game time too.
[03:27:16] Jen-I: awesome - do they transfer 1 or all of them?
[03:27:17] Dragoon1140: Poison damage win.
[03:27:19] TimerClock14: *GASP* ZANZ!!!! *faints*
[03:27:20] zanzarino: Yes i also added game time and turns
[03:27:26] Terroking: Someone had better harvest these quotes for GG
[03:27:34] EvaRia: =D awesome
[03:27:36] Legit: Hello
[03:27:41] Kuroaitou: I can't harvest now - I'm curating at the moment
[03:27:42] Jen-I: and that's fantastic - will help with stats immensely
[03:27:43] zanzarino: all of them (the poison counter)
[03:27:44] EvaRia: I'll hit history after
[03:27:46] 1chase1996: omg awesome crusader made it from the card ideas!
[03:27:50] Kuroaitou: Kami, quote these please :D
[03:27:52] Terroking: Hey Eglit, Zanz talking about new features
[03:27:53] Dragoon1140: This information is just too much for me to handle all at once...
[03:27:58] Terroking: *Legit
[03:28:10] Thatnewguy: kong is full of trolls
[03:28:17] TimerClock14: err so what's going on
[03:28:20] Legit: :O
[03:29:25] TimerClock14: oh oh i wanna c!
[03:29:27] zanzarino: Oh I fixed a couple of bugs... skeletons being visible even when Ai is cloaked
[03:29:30] Dragoon1140: Thanks for the update. That poison transfer is awesome.
[03:29:30] Jen-I: thanks - again I appreciate all the hard work you put in
[03:29:37] Terroking: It's the second most UP dragon atm, That. Just deals more damage than Massive, but is actually killable
[03:29:38] Kuroaitou: THanks dd - remember to post it in that thread
[03:29:39] EvaRia: where's the game time/turns?
[03:29:44] zanzarino: And graveyard randomly not working for AI
[03:29:51] ddevans96z: already did
[03:29:55] Terroking: Yeah, should give it a lot more synergy
[03:24:47] zanzarino: Good... lots of people in the chatroomFixed it :)
[03:25:03] zanzarino: I just updated the trainer with some new stuff
[03:25:23] zanzarino: I added a "you lost" screen that lays on top of the game field instead of clearing it
[03:25:35] zanzarino: That way it does not feel like omg the game crashed and I lost
[03:26:18] zanzarino: And, since it felt like catapult did not have much interaction with other element I added a little bit of easter egg twists
[03:26:31] zanzarino: frozen creatures get 20% binus on damage
[03:26:58] zanzarino: and poisoned ones transfer the poison counter to the opponent
[03:27:20] zanzarino: Yes i also added game time and turns
[03:27:43] zanzarino: all of them (the poison counter) [In regards to poisoned creatures being catapulted.]
[03:29:27] zanzarino: Oh I fixed a couple of bugs... skeletons being visible even when Ai is cloaked
[03:29:44] zanzarino: And graveyard randomly not working for AI
[03:27:20] zanzarino: Yes i also added game time and turnsjmdt just cried tears of joy.
I thought all the people in testing in the ttw thread use third-party programs to get stats.[03:27:20] zanzarino: Yes i also added game time and turnsjmdt just cried tears of joy.
I'm happy, I always lose track of what turn it is :PI thought all the people in testing in the ttw thread use third-party programs to get stats.[03:27:20] zanzarino: Yes i also added game time and turnsjmdt just cried tears of joy.
It will help other people more for the preliminary testing than jmdt and co.
Of course it also helps in story telling and bug catching, and probably other as yet to be found ways. :)I'm happy, I always lose track of what turn it is :PI thought all the people in testing in the ttw thread use third-party programs to get stats.[03:27:20] zanzarino: Yes i also added game time and turnsjmdt just cried tears of joy.
It will help other people more for the preliminary testing than jmdt and co.
Absentmindedness ftw.
Maybe I'll start believing the stats that other folk send my way now, lol :). Prolly not, but there were a number of ways people calculated turns, and only 1 was correct. Always great to see a random idea of mine added to the game.I thought all the people in testing in the ttw thread use third-party programs to get stats.[03:27:20] zanzarino: Yes i also added game time and turnsjmdt just cried tears of joy.
It will help other people more for the preliminary testing than jmdt and co.
While this wasn't from zanz, it could be useful...This is correct. I've also noticed it.
[10:55:13] Kuroaitou: Destiny has Trebuchet all D:
I'd like to see the reasoning behind it.It removes certain bugs (vampire, voodoo, and maybe a few others)
Still a bit lame tho. Other than heal its the only realy way (I think) to get health before each round for EM.Heal
Sanctuary will be awesome. Entropy's gonna lose their huge advantage in the wars: discord. I sure hope it's earth... Light already has a new card :-(I think Zanzarino mentioned it already, but Sanctuary + PA is just too much of a combo. Light deserves it, but Earth will definitely gain something themselves.
You forgot black holeStill a bit lame tho. Other than heal its the only realy way (I think) to get health before each round for EM.Heal
Luci
Vampire
Vampire Dagger
Liquid Shadow
Holy Light
I think if t50 becomes t500, or t5000, all accounts should be wiped :PDown with the poor! It's about time we rich get richer. :))
it will still mostly be the same people on top anyway, more so most likely due to free money with having to do nothing but be afk. And instead of seeing fg decks in t50, you will see actual pvp decks that even the cpu can use in the t500/t5000. Rich get richer while the poor beg for scraps :P
You can't say down with the poor. Some of us poor people have good deckbuilding skills, but don't grind. The top 500 would be a mega profit for me as I can't just sit down and grind.I think if t50 becomes t500, or t5000, all accounts should be wiped :PDown with the poor! It's about time we rich get richer. :))
it will still mostly be the same people on top anyway, more so most likely due to free money with having to do nothing but be afk. And instead of seeing fg decks in t50, you will see actual pvp decks that even the cpu can use in the t500/t5000. Rich get richer while the poor beg for scraps :P
Why does Tu'ing voodoo dolls cause double jepardy and hit the damage you caused all over again on the TU?I don't think there's a reason to put the same discussion in this thread as well. If you are hoping that zanz will read your
This causes flaws in logic such as
TU is not an attack, why does it trigger such an effect like an attack hit it?
I adrenalined my voodoo doll... why dont i gain adrenaline in my weapon if i can be frozen?
If you cant clone the original chimera, how can you clone a voodoo doll and still have the original both effecting the same person.
How does a near pillarless deck 4 turn false gods not appear a little over powered and exploitive.
Alot of decks cant counter these decks without rewind or mutate.
Its now the fastest deck in the game, even faster than cremation decks...faster isnt better.
The first time i saw this deck used on me i was like "what the hell just happened? i didnt attack it, why did i get hit with 58?"
I thought the whole idea was to use BB on voodoo, Gravity pull it and have the opponent... hit himself... not do some damage and TU it for instant wins.
Can you explain that this is not a glitch/exploit/bug for me and possibly consider answering some questions i asked?
-Flash
PS, Cant send you PMs.... kinda sucks
Why does Tu'ing voodoo dolls cause double jepardy and hit the damage you caused all over again on the TU?This is really in the wrong thread but the TU also replicates the attack it took because it replicates the voodoo doll as having the same max hp and since its not at its hghest hp, the loss in hp would then be addressed with a second attack on the enemy HP.
This causes flaws in logic such as
TU is not an attack, why does it trigger such an effect like an attack hit it?
I adrenalined my voodoo doll... why dont i gain adrenaline in my weapon if i can be frozen?
If you cant clone the original chimera, how can you clone a voodoo doll and still have the original both effecting the same person.
How does a near pillarless deck 4 turn false gods not appear a little over powered and exploitive.
Alot of decks cant counter these decks without rewind or mutate.
Its now the fastest deck in the game, even faster than cremation decks...faster isnt better.
The first time i saw this deck used on me i was like "what the hell just happened? i didnt attack it, why did i get hit with 58?"
I thought the whole idea was to use BB on voodoo, Gravity pull it and have the opponent... hit himself... not do some damage and TU it for instant wins.
Can you explain that this is not a glitch/exploit/bug for me and possibly consider answering some questions i asked?
-Flash
PS, Cant send you PMs.... kinda sucks
We might see an increase in storage space :Ddefine a corrupted account? like a corrupt file that makes a program unusable?
[22:47:59] Theonlyrealbeef: btw zanz, any chance storage will increase next update? :D I'm trying to go trainer-like but don't have the card storage space.
[22:48:27] zanzarino: I can move it up to 4K
[22:48:41] Theonlyrealbeef: Yes please :)
[22:48:47] zanzarino: The limit is there mostly to keep corrupted accounts from messing with the database
im guessing corrupted=hackedWe might see an increase in storage space :Ddefine a corrupted account? like a corrupt file that makes a program unusable?
[22:47:59] Theonlyrealbeef: btw zanz, any chance storage will increase next update? :D I'm trying to go trainer-like but don't have the card storage space.
[22:48:27] zanzarino: I can move it up to 4K
[22:48:41] Theonlyrealbeef: Yes please :)
[22:48:47] zanzarino: The limit is there mostly to keep corrupted accounts from messing with the database
[21:48:52] zanzarino: increase minimum = bugger decksToadfish and Pufferfish are unlikely to be separated into different cards soon[/list][21:12:43] ~Napalm: Ohai Zanz :D
Any idea when/where the password reset option will be located? It's not up currently on the Beta link as far as I can see.yes it is. At the top it says settings/reset account/account info
That's all well and good, but what about people who don't have their current password? How are we supposed to reset our password if we can't get into the account in the first place? That's a pretty major oversight for this feature.Over half of your posts have been about your password. You'd have been much better off creating a new account through all this time.
And I have done that, but I also have many more nymphs on the other account and my luck on the new one is no better. I've taken a long time off since then.That's all well and good, but what about people who don't have their current password? How are we supposed to reset our password if we can't get into the account in the first place? That's a pretty major oversight for this feature.Over half of your posts have been about your password. You'd have been much better off creating a new account through all this time.
Well, i don't know about you, but the instant I logged in and saw "undefined" in my "Email" slot, I was like "zomg! Bettah fix that up rite nowzahz!"yep exactly what happened to me lol
zanz appears in chat, with more exciting news about 1.272 and T500:I like that :D It will be so much harder to make good decks :D and I think more different cards will be used more :D
OtherMinimum decksize is unlikely to increase soon
Quote from: zanzarino[21:48:52] zanzarino: increase minimum = bugger decks[/list]
So, Platinum League, way more dangerous than FG will not award upgraded cards?
In platinum you can get 1000+ :electrum in one victory. So might not be totally worthless...But at what price. You need to use a 500 hp EM deck. That thing is slow and probably gets killed easily anyway.
(At least is claimed that you can, but seems possible)
Hypothetical situation.The same person who wins if you both had a field of Dolls when you detonated an UG at 1hp?
Players Bob and Frank are playing each other, both are at 1 HP.
Bob has a vampire in play.
Frank plays a shard of sacrifice.
Bob uses antimatter on his own vampire.
Normally, a vampire with antimatter on it will damage the controller and heal the opponent. Which at 1 HP would kill the controller.
With Frank having a shard of sacrifice in play, when Bob attacks, Bob will take the 2 damage from the antimattered vampire as normal.
Frank would normally be healed from the attacking antimattered vampire, but he has a shard of sacrifice in play, so he takes damage instead.
Both players are at 1 HP and both are taking 2 damage from the attacking antimattered vampire.
Who wins?
What does UG hit first, the player or the dolls? If it hits the player first, then obviously the person using the UG wins, but if it hits the dolls first, which doll does it hit first, the owner of the UG's or the opponents? I guess you're missing the point. What is the order or damage dealt. Who gets hit first with damage, the persons whose turn it is, or the opponent?eh, sorry, I read your post as "lolz with this new card you can both die at the same time!"
I vote that a person who is on chat regularly makes a new one of these topics as the OP is old and GG reisgned from elements during war....Seconded.
The same person who wins if you both had a field of Dolls when you detonated an UG at 1hp?Funny you should mention it ... http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28196.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28196.0.html)
I'd do it but i cannot make a new topic on this boardI vote that a person who is on chat regularly makes a new one of these topics as the OP is old and GG reisgned from elements during war....Seconded.
like new cards dont like no t50First off, T50 has been gone for a few months... it left almost immediately after I joined. Coincidence.
I hope music system is added to game :OIf added, the music in the game must be very short and in a mediocre quality. If not, the game will last an hour in charge for people with slow internet speed.
Excuse my noobish idea, but what about a setting that turns OFF the effects. This would include the little damage indicators on the players AND creatures... might cut down on some of the recent lag for people with slower internet connections.Set your quality to low.
Just a thought...
In low quality I have still a lot of game effects, which shouldn't exist in this quality. I undestand idea of turning off ALL effects and I agree with Iman00b8. It would be nice to see Elements in low quality without flash effects. It looks very nice, but after year of playing I prefer fast than cute. When it is easy to do it would be nice to see this change in next patch.Excuse my noobish idea, but what about a setting that turns OFF the effects. This would include the little damage indicators on the players AND creatures... might cut down on some of the recent lag for people with slower internet connections.Set your quality to low.
Just a thought...
In my defense, I meant there should be a setting that turns off effects, not that they should be gotten rid of for everyone. It's just that sometimes when the server lags on lowest settings, one may wish to lower the settings even moreIn low quality I have still a lot of game effects, which shouldn't exist in this quality. I undestand idea of turning off ALL effects and I agree with Iman00b8. It would be nice to see Elements in low quality without flash effects. It looks very nice, but after year of playing I prefer fast than cute. When it is easy to do it would be nice to see this change in next patch.Excuse my noobish idea, but what about a setting that turns OFF the effects. This would include the little damage indicators on the players AND creatures... might cut down on some of the recent lag for people with slower internet connections.Set your quality to low.
Just a thought...
Set your quality to low.I highly think that you didn't understand what's being suggested, Iman00b suggested of having a option to turn OFF all the effects due to it causing lag for slower internet players, If it's turned off then the game will run faster meaning more score/coins gain per hour. This should be a option because there are alot of games that consider slower internet players as they are part of the player base fueling this game to success.
Internet speed only makes difference in PVP.Set your quality to low.I highly think that you didn't understand what's being suggested, Iman00b suggested of having a option to turn OFF all the effects due to it causing lag for slower internet players, If it's turned off then the game will run faster meaning more score/coins gain per hour. This should be a option because there are alot of games that consider slower internet players as they are part of the player base fueling this game to success.
A change that discourages several uses of Snova per turn won't affect Instosis much, if at all. What it will affect are Speedbows that run into CC. The added problem of singularities really gives you incentive to play one per turn, which only slows you down a little. Not a big issue.Well it makes BH an even stronger counter - now you can't just wait with playing sn till you NEED them. (Besides with the fast drawing quite often you play 3-4 sns a turn when you don't get them early).
A nerf has been necessary ever since it was buffed, and I know many of us are glad it's finally on its way.
SN need a big nerf, I hope this will be enough..Yeah, and then old school timebows are gonna be welcome again :D
I never understood it, but looks like zanz have a sadistic pleasure in nerfing all cards that are used: Lava Destroyer, Cremation, Fractal, Deflagration and Steal are just some examples.Aside from the fact that, you know, SN is generally acknowledged as an OP card.
Dunno if he knows that people actually need to pay 1500, yes, 1500 electrum for EACH upgrade in a deck, and dont like having the deck then nerfed just because a card is used (arent they designed exactly to be used?). I bet everytime he nerfs an important card, some of the users rage quit. I really dont understand why he does things like this all the time.
Maybe SN deserves a nerf. About Nova, Im not so sure. But, were all these cards so OP? This "all used cards get a nerf" policy is a bad idea and I see no reason for this at all.I never understood it, but looks like zanz have a sadistic pleasure in nerfing all cards that are used: Lava Destroyer, Cremation, Fractal, Deflagration and Steal are just some examples.Aside from the fact that, you know, SN is generally acknowledged as an OP card.
Dunno if he knows that people actually need to pay 1500, yes, 1500 electrum for EACH upgrade in a deck, and dont like having the deck then nerfed just because a card is used (arent they designed exactly to be used?). I bet everytime he nerfs an important card, some of the users rage quit. I really dont understand why he does things like this all the time.
Balance is more important than the effectiveness of individual cards.i agree.... elemets attract me a lot due to the balance.... many online card game i play are not balanced.... some cards are just ridiculous unlike elements
I'd think that more players would quit from boredom in an imbalanced meta- I know that 2 turn sundials got really boring in FG grinding because it was so monotonous- it wasn't worth playing, and there was no alternative as it beat everything else.
We had the :fire nerf, this is the :entropy nerf, who is next :earth or :death?fixed ( pshh, please dont bring nerfing darkness as an idea )
Elements is actually one of those card games where it has a pretty balanced metagame and isn't pay to win.Balance is more important than the effectiveness of individual cards.i agree.... elemets attract me a lot due to the balance.... many online card game i play are not balanced.... some cards are just ridiculous unlike elements
I'd think that more players would quit from boredom in an imbalanced meta- I know that 2 turn sundials got really boring in FG grinding because it was so monotonous- it wasn't worth playing, and there was no alternative as it beat everything else.
I'm pretty sure a lot of players rage quit due to seeing SN rushes half the time in the arena (and maybe pvp). Nova now has a 2-per-turn restriction, which does basically nothing to those decks, since you'll generally have a hard time drawing 3 or more novas anyway. And yes, SN was so OP. I don't see how you can think it wasn't. I personally feel it deserves a nerf more than the fire cards that were nerfed (which were abused mostly due to arena mechanics or, in the case of explosion, due to SN).Maybe SN deserves a nerf. About Nova, Im not so sure. But, were all these cards so OP? This "all used cards get a nerf" policy is a bad idea and I see no reason for this at all.I never understood it, but looks like zanz have a sadistic pleasure in nerfing all cards that are used: Lava Destroyer, Cremation, Fractal, Deflagration and Steal are just some examples.Aside from the fact that, you know, SN is generally acknowledged as an OP card.
Dunno if he knows that people actually need to pay 1500, yes, 1500 electrum for EACH upgrade in a deck, and dont like having the deck then nerfed just because a card is used (arent they designed exactly to be used?). I bet everytime he nerfs an important card, some of the users rage quit. I really dont understand why he does things like this all the time.
At least I hope this singularity thing is a "chance" and not a 100% event in SN chaining, otherwise it would be completelly contrary to Entropy theme.
Hehehe, I assume you think just like zanz, BluePriest. All cards that are 'over' used need a nerf, huh? Zanz buffed Basilisk Blood, so it would be more used. If a powerful combo involving it comes and it becomes really used, I bet it will get a nerf too, if not the other cards, right? Mate, the game needs powerful cards. If its powerful, it will be more used than not-so-powerful cards, and this doesnt mean "need a nerf". Its a natural thing.No. Blue Priest in consistent in that he recognizes some cards are overused by design, some by chance and some by being better (over powered)
No. Blue Priest in consistent in that he recognizes some cards are overused by design, some by chance and some by being better (over powered)He didnt said that.
No he didn't say that. Neither did he say that overuse = overpowered. I was merely informing you of his position in a clear manner.No. Blue Priest in consistent in that he recognizes some cards are overused by design, some by chance and some by being better (over powered)He didnt said that.
By the way, I also dont understand whats the problem about chaining SNs in late game. If we adjust the cost a bit, it wont be so fast, so imbalance corrected. But with the singularities, I can have enough quanta to play, its late game, and I still get those things? Like, Im using instosis vs FGs, 2 SNs are in last cards, which I will draw in the last turn of the game. Do I deserve a punishment?
They are used nonstop because they need a nerf.This is what he said, so we can assume the 'used nonstop' cards need nerfs, they are used due to this, according to him. So if Basilisk Blood becomes used nonstop, it has turned into a OP card, and should be nerfed. To me amount of use is not proof of OP. Like said, maybe its not the SN case, but were all those other cards OP?
Need nerf -> used non stop =/= used non stop -> Need nerfThey are used nonstop because they need a nerf.This is what he said, so we can assume the 'used nonstop' cards need nerfs
Why I think it shouldnt be 100%, RRQJ? Entropy is the element that takes risks. Not everytime, of course, but a lot. When you use the Elf in your creature, you can kill it. When you use Chaos Seed or Pandemonium (even more unupped), you are taking risks. When you use Dissipation Shield, you are playing with your quanta, which is risky. Whats the point of chaining SNs if you know it will be bad? I know the point of the nerf is exactly this, but a margin should be given to entropy to risk ;)Like I said, maxwell's demon, butterfly effect, antimatter, etc. all have guaranteed effects. Not everything related to entropy has to be random or have a chance.
On another note, do you still get the quanta from a chained SN (i.e. you gain the quanta and create a singularity)? If not, then I agree this is a fancier way of preventing SN chains (that new OTK is likely an oversight, so I'm not counting it for the moment) and would be equivalent to hard coding SN so that only one can be used per turn.The Entropy quanta is only produced with the first SN.
Yes but Seraph is not available that means 1.3 is not totally implemented yet.
HiYes, the old deckbuilding screen looked nice, but it was also slow and rather prone to bugs. The new deckbuilding screen runs faster and smoother (for example, adding cards one by one to your deck now takes less time than before), and generally feels more responsive than the lagginess that occurred in the old version.
The Deck Image Builder has been re-implemented.
From my point of view that new graphic is really "cheap", infantile and ugly. The old version was elegant and more viual. Now, i can't see my cards at a glance.
Have they changed the rules ?
I feel that the games againts the IA are more diificult. My Entropy deck doesn't works as usual. Now IA kill creatures with improved antimater ...more often than before. Systematically ?! what's happen ? Have you change the algorythm ?
It is painful. I spent many months to upgrade that deck...what do I do now ?
So i am disappointed,
kindest regards
I am not in agreement. We can not change the rules during Game because it's takes time to win money & to upgrade cards. So what do I do now ? with my 60 entropy cards ....upgraded ? ;) I have to do a new deck with new cards. I don't know how long i play in that place, i'm level 55 and i've got 100 upgraded cards...at all. I don't want to start over even if i like this game. I'm 41 and i've a job ::) !This is honestly nothing but your mistake. If you want to make good electrum in this game, you have to plan out your decks. If you want a reliable income, you have to get a reliable deck. There are hundreds of those on these forums, and the task of doing research is your own.
I just want to play with cards i like...that's all i want.
I do not run after :electrum
The problem is not losing but losing all the time.
I said, it's not very important. I dislike changes because , at my mind this game is not a "Beta game".
No it's 80 :electrum with entire life (100 HP) + 5 for matching spin (90 :electrum max) for level 4
you should play level 4 ;)
I do not run after :electrum and i'm not complaining. The problem is not losing but losing all the time. Not for money, i don't care honestly. It's just annoying to lose all the time because the AI has changed. you know someone who plays to lose? I'm not here to please but an algorithm to relax 30 minutes in my day job overbooked.The goal of the AI is to be an intelligent opponent.