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Re: Zanzarino (Lead Developer) speaks about new features - updated 2010-12-09 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17265.msg220880#msg220880
« Reply #36 on: December 10, 2010, 07:42:47 am »

I saw this and freaked a little, I still am lacking a lot of unupped rares even tho I've played thousands of games vs AI3 and 5. I decided I would grind the top50 just to get rares. I have never been so annoyed at playing this game. I quit for the night and can't wait for the new system now. Decks of variance and bonus rare spins sound good to me compared to everyones AI3 grinder and FG Stallbows.

AI5 could use some refinement too if plausible, maxing the card count to 6 of kind for a few of the decks cards and also if upping a card upping all of that cards copies could help. Just to fix the spin ratios. I find playing AI5 fun because of the variance, but the rewards are lacking.

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Re: Zanzarino (Lead Developer) speaks about new features - updated 120910 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17265.msg220897#msg220897
« Reply #37 on: December 10, 2010, 08:02:37 am »
I want new cards... And I think turning Top50 into Top500 is not a good idea at all.
I think it's a great idea. It would eliminate rare farming and make rares actually rare again :P
I don't mind either way, i guess you also got 6 of every rares by now. Noobs shouldn't be that lucky.

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Re: Zanzarino (Lead Developer) speaks about new features - updated 2010-12-09 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17265.msg220926#msg220926
« Reply #38 on: December 10, 2010, 09:14:21 am »
T500 will make Elements +100% more awesome. Can't wait for it to be implemented.

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Re: Zanzarino (Lead Developer) speaks about new features - updated 2010-12-09 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17265.msg220929#msg220929
« Reply #39 on: December 10, 2010, 09:22:17 am »
I want new cards... And I think turning Top50 into Top500 is not a good idea at all.
I think it's a great idea. It would eliminate rare farming and make rares actually rare again :P
I don't mind either way, i guess you also got 6 of every rares by now. Noobs shouldn't be that lucky.


The worst thing that will come because of the T500 is the lack of rares for the newbies. As in, if he has no SoG's, something I've been crying and farming over for a while already, the chance to get it, will be, on the least, very small, or non-existent. The chances to get 12x of every rare (As most do have that thought, the thought of getting 6 upped and 6 un-upped, that, I too, want) will be pretty narrowed down. Shards, as of now, will turn into pretty much a advantage over the other opponents in PvP2.

But then again, most have them all by now. One way or another, I bet there are people still clicking that T50 button like mad now, before the T500.

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Re: Zanzarino (Lead Developer) speaks about new features - updated 2010-12-09 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17265.msg220941#msg220941
« Reply #40 on: December 10, 2010, 09:50:58 am »
As in, if he has no SoG's, something I've been crying and farming over for a while already, the chance to get it, will be, on the least, very small, or non-existent.
Donate. This is a sure way to get Shards of any type, and ensures that Zanz can keep developing this game.

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Re: Zanzarino (Lead Developer) speaks about new features - updated 120910 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17265.msg220943#msg220943
« Reply #41 on: December 10, 2010, 10:08:31 am »
I want new cards... And I think turning Top50 into Top500 is not a good idea at all.
I think it's a great idea. It would eliminate rare farming and make rares actually rare again :P
I don't mind either way, i guess you also got 6 of every rares by now. Noobs shouldn't be that lucky.
I don't have 6 of every rare. not even close, actually. I just like the idea of rare cards being, you know, actually rare. And newbs won't have a harder time getting rares. Remember, every 3 wins you get in the t500 you get a chance to spin for a rare card. Playing a lot against the t500 seems like a good way of being able to get rares, but not as easy as when there were farms.

Not to mention, i assume you will get slot spins after each duel you do against the t500, which means people will still probably have multiple shards in their decks, and multiple of other cards, including the card the oracle gave them.

I see the t500 as a solution to the rare farming problem, but not a full on replacement. Rares will still be easier to get than just dueling AI1-5, possible ever easier than FGs. But overall, the difficulty will be raised some to get rares, but not all that much harder to.
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Re: Zanzarino (Lead Developer) speaks about new features - updated 2010-12-09 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17265.msg220946#msg220946
« Reply #42 on: December 10, 2010, 10:12:50 am »
As in, if he has no SoG's, something I've been crying and farming over for a while already, the chance to get it, will be, on the least, very small, or non-existent.
Donate. This is a sure way to get Shards of any type, and ensures that Zanz can keep developing this game.
Except that many people can't donate, by either not having the money, not having the ways to donate, not having dollars, or being under the age to donate.

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Re: Zanzarino (Lead Developer) speaks about new features - updated 2010-12-09 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17265.msg220952#msg220952
« Reply #43 on: December 10, 2010, 10:44:39 am »
As in, if he has no SoG's, something I've been crying and farming over for a while already, the chance to get it, will be, on the least, very small, or non-existent.
Donate. This is a sure way to get Shards of any type, and ensures that Zanz can keep developing this game.
Except that many people can't donate, by either not having the money, not having the ways to donate, not having dollars, or being under the age to donate.
If you have money, period, you can get it exchanged online. I believe paypal handles stuff like that.
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Re: Zanzarino (Lead Developer) speaks about new features - updated 2010-12-09 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17265.msg220954#msg220954
« Reply #44 on: December 10, 2010, 10:54:58 am »
As in, if he has no SoG's, something I've been crying and farming over for a while already, the chance to get it, will be, on the least, very small, or non-existent.
Donate. This is a sure way to get Shards of any type, and ensures that Zanz can keep developing this game.
Except that many people can't donate, by either not having the money, not having the ways to donate, not having dollars, or being under the age to donate.
If you have money, period, you can get it exchanged online. I believe paypal handles stuff like that.
Doesn't really fixes the other facts. I myself never handled paypal so I wouldn't know. One way or another, let's go back on topic and enjoy the new improvements. But what kind of new AI? AI3 and AI2 remake or New AI?

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Re: Zanzarino (Lead Developer) speaks about new features - updated 2010-12-09 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17265.msg220956#msg220956
« Reply #45 on: December 10, 2010, 10:55:46 am »
If T50 gets removed, is some other reason to gain score going to be implemented? I mean, as of right now, reaching the T50 is the only reward for a high score. If that's going to be removed, I would hope that punishing people for a high score by reducing PVP rewards would be removed as well.

As it is, I already think score should have some other value, but at least T50 is something.

Also, I don't see this T500 thing as being that big a chance for newbies to get decks seen. The decks that survive seem to me like they will be from people that can support whatever their Oracle card is with a fully upped deck built around it.

It does sound like they would be fun to play against, though. Expanding the game is great. This sounds like an idea far off in the distance, though. I doubt T50 goes anywhere in the next year, unless Zanz has been secretly coding this the whole time. It seems like his biggest Elements related project since its creation.

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Re: Zanzarino (Lead Developer) speaks about new features - updated 2010-12-09 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17265.msg220965#msg220965
« Reply #46 on: December 10, 2010, 11:14:08 am »
Ok now let me say something again. If only good players with high enough score enter Top50 now, in Top500 there will be not that good players. For me, Top50 is to see how good are you and see how can you do against advanced players, see how good-working you deck is. And yeah, probably the 'rares' are not so rare now. And I don't like the oracle deck idea. Example: if he gives you a nymph and you only have 1 f that nymph, how will you make a deck with at least 5 copies of that card???

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Re: Zanzarino (Lead Developer) speaks about new features - updated 2010-12-09 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17265.msg220968#msg220968
« Reply #47 on: December 10, 2010, 11:35:59 am »
Ok now let me say something again. If only good players with high enough score enter Top50 now, in Top500 there will be not that good players. For me, Top50 is to see how good are you and see how can you do against advanced players, see how good-working you deck is. And yeah, probably the 'rares' are not so rare now. And I don't like the oracle deck idea. Example: if he gives you a nymph and you only have 1 f that nymph, how will you make a deck with at least 5 copies of that card???
But like Zanz said, the score for Top500 will be like a dairy score, not your total score that you already have.
And maybe oracle change a bit. He will tell you the cards to use to build the deck for T500, not necessary the card that you win like nymphs or regular cards.


The worst thing that will come because of the T500 is the lack of rares for the newbies. As in, if he has no SoG's, something I've been crying and farming over for a while already, the chance to get it, will be, on the least, very small, or non-existent. The chances to get 12x of every rare (As most do have that thought, the thought of getting 6 upped and 6 un-upped, that, I too, want) will be pretty narrowed down. Shards, as of now, will turn into pretty much a advantage over the other opponents in PvP2.

But then again, most have them all by now. One way or another, I bet there are people still clicking that T50 button like mad now, before the T500.
Farm as much as you can now. Maybe I´ll farm to get 12 of each weapon...but I have at least 6 of each, I´m not worried about this. Sorry for the newbies.

 

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