Elements 1.4

[Keolino]

No, I already understood all that. But at the end of the day, "money is money" and "the cost of living is too high". I'd go and find a meme with a developers need to eat too sign, but alas, I'm lazy.

I've personally never been bothered by paid content in a free to play game. I've never spent a dime on it though... not because I'm greedy, but because it's not in my budget. My poor minimum wage income barely cover my rent after all (also why I can't donate), but I ask: why not take money from those rich kids who have it? As long as it's not something that gave a completely unfair advantage (i.e. holographic cards, unique marks).

I never realized there were those out there like yourself that viewed such simple marketing tricks with disdain. I mean, I agree that they're not exactly classy these days with the bad rep they've gained (nods to a couple unmentioned games) but again: "money is money".

If Zanz wanted money for that game in any way, I would pay it. The game is awesome enough and I wouldn't mind paying for a good game. But if Zanz doesn't want money, then there is nothing for me to do here.

Our oppinion may differ because we look on it from different perspectives. I am at an age where living with your parents is still a totally normal thing, so aside from my car/notebook+games/some insurance stuff I don't have to pay for much. So no rent, food or family I have to pay for yet, and plenty spare money. I was always tought to think economical, so even once I move out, I am confident that I would have no problem managing my money with the minimum wages I get right now. I don't feel like I need or even wish for more money than I already have and get each month.

I am totally aware of the fact that minimum wages and a family at home can become an awful combination And every single dollar/euro/whatever can become really important, but not everybody is in desperate need for money either. Zanz is a developer with probably high enough wages (well, I guess. there are developers which don't get much money as well), as long as he thinks that he doesn't need/want money from this game, there is nothing for us to do here.

Unpopular opinion: If Zanz actually used Elements as a potential source of revenue, he might have a reason to do anything with it more than a couple times a year, and this game and community might not be in the pathetic lull it's in now.

that is probably true... But may be the other way around? With this game giving more money for zanz, he would invest more time in the game, leaving less time for his family/friends/whatever. So he isn't charging money, so he doesn't have to feel like he has to put (too) much work into the game...?

[Keeps]

Hi, I actually tried to buy this game from Zanz, I found out he makes a lot more money than the community thinks, but probably not enough to pay for another developer... 
He however is very protective of his properties, and isn't interested in giving them up anytime soon either.  Finally, these properties like EtG are side ventures and he has a full time job as an engineer. 
Because of this, we have the unique position of getting updates only during major break times, that's usually why you see a bunch of activity around Christmas time, and general maintenance only rest of the other times.

For everyone who is bothered by this, various community projects to build a 'new' EtG have been started, the one with the most traction is openEtG...  support it with art, donations, etc, if you want further advancement.  Otherwise, accept the nature of the EtG game as is.

[maxy123]

Ont he trainer site it says how the game will close on march 31 due to contract ending. Is this going to be a problem?

[Higurashi]

No, that's not at all what it says. It says mochi media is shutting down and the the site owner has to talk to the game developer about continued hosting of the game. The site owner is the same person as the game dev, so not much negotiating to do there. Mochi media is only the ad provider, so zanz will simply find another.

[maxy123]

Perfect, I got scared for a bit.

[vrt]

Unpopular opinion: If Zanz actually used Elements as a potential source of revenue, he might have a reason to do anything with it more than a couple times a year, and this game and community might not be in the pathetic lull it's in now.

The same goes for the artwork, for the record.

[ButtercupSaiyan]

I want to be like Dora Explorer and find the map update announcement waiting for me in the forums...

[Rastafla]

SEVERE BUG IN DEVELOPMENT version.
The games is in an infinite loop and keeps flashing this msg and the game is locked. It doesnt accept input from mouse or keyboard.





How it happened.
I started out as darkness and proceeded to do quests after quest. While I was going up to 500 score I happened to be clearing the chroma area, with 498 gold i entered the last elemental on screen and I killed it and arrived at this msg of "Elite elemental arrived" and no gold gain from last fight and instead got this infinite msg bug. It keeps flashing and fading out.

[dawn to dusk]

found a bug

for some reason, the life starting place was taken over and turned into nobody's land. i went to the next life area and back to where the life palace should have been but it was overrun by time elementals. seems to be a thing of chance though


may be an interesting way to gain reputation actually

[ishner]

SEVERE BUG IN DEVELOPMENT version.
The games is in an infinite loop and keeps flashing this msg and the game is locked. It doesnt accept input from mouse or keyboard.

i confirm this bug.
to replicate stay in the central hex (the one with the  palace) and repeatedly kill the enimeys there.
when they are all dead the game crashes.

[OdinVanguard]

well... good to know this is a known bug and it isn't just my own computer throwing a hissy fit. I've seen it too, although it seems to only happen after the game has been running for a long time.

[eaglgenes101]

Any more word from Zanz?
And another pie-in-space idea: what if we could see other real-life players on our map and possibly interact with them?