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Re: Elements 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45197.msg1027836#msg1027836
« Reply #456 on: January 03, 2013, 12:36:06 am »
Is Phase Salvager supposed to be this way?
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Re: Elements 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45197.msg1027839#msg1027839
« Reply #457 on: January 03, 2013, 12:38:05 am »
Is Phase Salvager supposed to be this way?
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Re: Elements 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45197.msg1027852#msg1027852
« Reply #458 on: January 03, 2013, 01:27:37 am »
Graviton Merc had it's cost lowered by one on both versions. Micro Abom is crying itself to sleep tonight.

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Re: Elements 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45197.msg1027858#msg1027858
« Reply #459 on: January 03, 2013, 01:51:17 am »
Gravity has a buff it could use on its Salvager, but doesn't need it. Aether doesn't have a buff, but its Salvager does need it. Not a big fan of the Aether Salvager at the moment, as it is near-useless without requiring a combo.

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Re: Elements 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45197.msg1027864#msg1027864
« Reply #460 on: January 03, 2013, 02:07:32 am »
Gravity has a buff it could use on its Salvager, but doesn't need it. Aether doesn't have a buff, but its Salvager does need it. Not a big fan of the Aether Salvager at the moment, as it is near-useless without requiring a combo.

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Re: Elements 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45197.msg1027865#msg1027865
« Reply #461 on: January 03, 2013, 02:09:11 am »
I'm a fan of the aether salvager right now, I think requiring a duo with an odd element is cool and requires a level of creativity.
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Re: Elements 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45197.msg1027894#msg1027894
« Reply #462 on: January 03, 2013, 04:30:18 am »
The salvagers are now in the trainer.

I still don't think Salvagers are completely what the game needs atm, but I do like the trainer versions much more than before. :D
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Re: Elements 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45197.msg1027916#msg1027916
« Reply #463 on: January 03, 2013, 05:16:13 am »
Thunder/Lightning Storm is now OP cost-wise...
RoF/Firestorm 3 damage for 7 | 5 = 1 damage per 2.3 | 1.67 quanta
Thunder/Lightning Storm 2 damage for 2 | 1 = 1 damage per 1 | .5 quanta

That's a freaking huge gap... Essentially +1 damage to all is now equated to +5, +4 cost...

Mind you TS / LS was always more efficient...
old one: 1 damage per 2 | 1 quanta(still more efficient)

You want to buff TS/LS, buff other forms of mass CC too...
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Re: Elements 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45197.msg1027918#msg1027918
« Reply #464 on: January 03, 2013, 05:20:33 am »
Thunder/Lightning Storm is now OP cost-wise...
RoF/Firestorm 3 damage for 7 | 5 = 1 damage per 2.3 | 1.67 quanta
Thunder/Lightning Storm 2 damage for 2 | 1 = 1 damage per 1 | .5 quanta

That's a freaking huge gap... Essentially +1 damage to all is now equated to +5, +4 cost...

Mind you TS / LS was always more efficient...
old one: 1 damage per 2 | 1 quanta(still more efficient)

You want to buff TS/LS, buff other forms of mass CC too...

It costs 3|2 atm.
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Re: Elements 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45197.msg1027919#msg1027919
« Reply #465 on: January 03, 2013, 05:22:53 am »
Oh really? I looked in the card changes section and it was 2/1.
If it's 3/2 in the trainer that changes things.

On the other hand it's still
TS/LS 2 damage for 3/2 = 1 damage for 1.5/1

and +1 damage to all is +4/+3(this is the biggest concern)
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Re: Elements 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45197.msg1027924#msg1027924
« Reply #466 on: January 03, 2013, 06:00:09 am »
Oh really? I looked in the card changes section and it was 2/1.
If it's 3/2 in the trainer that changes things.

On the other hand it's still
TS/LS 2 damage for 3/2 = 1 damage for 1.5/1

and +1 damage to all is +4/+3(this is the biggest concern)

difference between 2DMG and 3DMG is huuuge.
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Re: Elements 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45197.msg1027943#msg1027943
« Reply #467 on: January 03, 2013, 07:34:22 am »
The salvagers are now in the trainer.

time to test them
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