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Re: Elements 1.30 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35190.msg485165#msg485165
« Reply #576 on: April 21, 2012, 10:24:02 PM »
I thumbs up decks that I don't see every other match.

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Re: Elements 1.30 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35190.msg486373#msg486373
« Reply #577 on: April 24, 2012, 04:06:37 AM »
This thumbs up/down is an excellent idea but it is clearly being mis-used by many (most ?) players.
I have (and I don't think I'm alone in this ) put very novel decks into the arena only to be rewarded by a 20% "thumbs up" ratio.
I've also put up boing old decks (like GoTP/nightmare) and had a similar or better thumbs up ratio.
It seems many players react emotionally to a loss rather than making a judgement about the originality of the deck.
For example never put dune scorpions into a deck if you want lots of "ups".
Unfortunatly other than just asking I'm not sure how you can stop arena players acting this way.
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Re: Elements 1.30 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35190.msg486381#msg486381
« Reply #578 on: April 24, 2012, 04:32:24 AM »
I only vote thumbs up for decks that were fun to play against. Considering how un-fun it is to lose, that generally means that most decks get a thumbs down from me. Im sure most players feel the same.

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Re: Elements 1.30 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35190.msg486383#msg486383
« Reply #579 on: April 24, 2012, 04:35:00 AM »
I only vote thumbs up for decks that were fun to play against. Considering how un-fun it is to lose, that generally means that most decks get a thumbs down from me. Im sure most players feel the same.

So you never even read the description of the rating screen? The 'thumbs down' is saying the deck is 'boring and uninspired'. Not 'boohoo it made me lose'.
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Re: Elements 1.30 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35190.msg486386#msg486386
« Reply #580 on: April 24, 2012, 04:37:06 AM »
I'll say how I rank again. Mono fire/aether/entropy/darkness/death is almost an auto thumbs down since it's uncreative. Same goes for oraclebows. Now if I see a deck with strategies like adrenapuffer or life rush with deflag, then I'll thumbs it up.

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Re: Elements 1.30 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35190.msg486388#msg486388
« Reply #581 on: April 24, 2012, 04:39:11 AM »
A deck I lose to after 16 turns of shard of sacrifice is boring and uninspired and im going to give it a thumbs down. If its a crazy mutant serendipidy deck that i was neck and neck with until the end until it gets a super lucky mutant which beats me by 1 HP, it gets a thumbs up. The first is boring to lose to, the second is fun to lose to. Thats how i differentiate thumbs up versus thumbs down.

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Re: Elements 1.30 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35190.msg486389#msg486389
« Reply #582 on: April 24, 2012, 04:42:33 AM »
A deck I lose to after 16 turns of shard of sacrifice is boring and uninspired and im going to give it a thumbs down. If its a crazy mutant serendipidy deck that i was neck and neck with until the end until it gets a super lucky mutant which beats me by 1 HP, it gets a thumbs up. The first is boring to lose to, the second is fun to lose to. Thats how i differentiate thumbs up versus thumbs down.
Considering how un-fun it is to lose, that generally means that most decks get a thumbs down from me. Im sure most players feel the same.

You didn't quite say that, did you? :B



Honestly, I wish the thumbs-down button would take like 3 seconds to become available.
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Re: Elements 1.30 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35190.msg486392#msg486392
« Reply #583 on: April 24, 2012, 04:44:56 AM »
They key word in there was "most". I still give thumbs up to some decks. My bar is just a little higher than most in that the deck needs to be fun to play against, not simply "creative".

edit: the fun-ness of play needs to outweigh the un-fun of losing.

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Re: Elements 1.30 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35190.msg486395#msg486395
« Reply #584 on: April 24, 2012, 04:45:50 AM »
A deck I lose to after 16 turns of shard of sacrifice is boring and uninspired and im going to give it a thumbs down. If its a crazy mutant serendipidy deck that i was neck and neck with until the end until it gets a super lucky mutant which beats me by 1 HP, it gets a thumbs up. The first is boring to lose to, the second is fun to lose to. Thats how i differentiate thumbs up versus thumbs down.
Considering how un-fun it is to lose, that generally means that most decks get a thumbs down from me. Im sure most players feel the same.

You didn't quite say that, did you? :B



Honestly, I wish the thumbs-down button would take like 3 seconds to become available.
Suddenly, everyone gets thumbs up for every match.

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Re: Elements 1.30 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35190.msg486517#msg486517
« Reply #585 on: April 24, 2012, 12:14:57 PM »
Anyway, thumbs thing is controversial, because good and winning decks are usually those where opponents can have less fun. But this discussion seems slighly out of the subject already.
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Re: Elements 1.30 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35190.msg486524#msg486524
« Reply #586 on: April 24, 2012, 12:32:05 PM »
Anyway, thumbs thing is controversial, because good and winning decks are usually those where opponents can have less fun. But this discussion seems slighly out of the subject already.

i dont even know why is this thread still unlocked lol we're not even talking about the changes in 1.30 at all

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Re: Elements 1.30 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35190.msg486855#msg486855
« Reply #587 on: April 25, 2012, 12:39:39 AM »
I found out FGs still steal HGs over Dials. They'll Destroy Dials first, but not for steal. That's what I've seen...
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