*Author

Laxaria

  • Guest
Re: Elements 1.21 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4066.msg39649#msg39649
« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2010, 01:37:47 am »
The only thing I don't like is Graboids being nerfed. I guess we now have to find a new AI3 speed deck...
I think plastiqe's deck works pretty well:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1874.msg37724#msg37724
The the advent of Phoenix and Ashes, I think mono-fire will be faster than Graboids now. Which is a little sad but wholly unexpected. Why should earth be faster than offensive fire? :P

Offline jmizzle7

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 3058
  • Reputation Power: 34
  • jmizzle7 is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.jmizzle7 is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.jmizzle7 is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.jmizzle7 is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.jmizzle7 is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.jmizzle7 is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.
  • I'm kind of a big deal. People know me.
  • Awards: Weekly Tournament WinnerSS Competition #1 1stCard Design Competition Winner
Re: Elements 1.21 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4066.msg39657#msg39657
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2010, 01:51:33 am »
Man, I don't get why there is no love for mono life. It has been proven to be just as fast as the shrieker spam deck, and it is extremely easy/inexpensive to build.

Jumbalumba

  • Guest
Re: Elements 1.21 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4066.msg39666#msg39666
« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2010, 02:09:42 am »
Man, I don't get why there is no love for mono life. It has been proven to be just as fast as the shrieker spam deck, and it is extremely easy/inexpensive to build.
Too many people obsessed with mono-Earth imo. Both mono-Fire and mono-Life are faster yet many people still think mono-Earth is faster.

Offline Lex

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 110
  • Reputation Power: 2
  • Lex is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • New to Elements
Re: Elements 1.21 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4066.msg39684#msg39684
« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2010, 02:33:06 am »
The only thing I don't like is Graboids being nerfed. I guess we now have to find a new AI3 speed deck...
I think plastiqe's deck works pretty well:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1874.msg37724#msg37724
"Deck approved by me" ;P

The only thing I don't like is Graboids being nerfed. I guess we now have to find a new AI3 speed deck...
There's always mono-Life and mono-Fire. May not be as fast, but both are still very good decks.
Not as fast? Fire is. ;)

Offline Bloodshadow

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4030
  • Country: ca
  • Reputation Power: 46
  • Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.
  • 吞天纳地,魔渡众生。天下万物,唯我至尊。
  • Awards: Ultimate Profile WinnerOpposites Attract
Re: Elements 1.21 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4066.msg39691#msg39691
« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2010, 03:11:27 am »
I forgot to mention one important fact when I asked my question. Right now, what is the fastest unupgraded AI3 grinder? And preferably no rares required.
To be or not to be, I can do both at once. Go learn quantum mechanics, n00b.

Offline Lex

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 110
  • Reputation Power: 2
  • Lex is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • New to Elements
Re: Elements 1.21 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4066.msg39694#msg39694
« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2010, 03:20:24 am »
I think the fire one in post above yours. I got ~1win per 1-1,5 min with it.

Delreich

  • Guest
Re: Elements 1.21 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4066.msg39704#msg39704
« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2010, 03:50:22 am »
I forgot to mention one important fact when I asked my question. Right now, what is the fastest unupgraded AI3 grinder? And preferably no rares required.
Right now, graboids and adrena-frogs are probably tied for fastest mono decks for lvl3, with no-land stompy (1 (http://elementsthegame.wikia.com/wiki/No-Land_Stompy), 2 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1874.msg37724#msg37724)) probably being a bit quicker. Not sure where mono fire fits in.

Aviyor

  • Guest
Re: Elements 1.21 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4066.msg39713#msg39713
« Reply #31 on: March 17, 2010, 04:20:13 am »
Zanz didn't mention that fog shield is now 40% block as opposed to 30%. I'd pay 1 air quanta for that.

Clathius

  • Guest
Re: Elements 1.21 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4066.msg39782#msg39782
« Reply #32 on: March 17, 2010, 01:52:15 pm »

Not sure I understand the nerf to Graboids.

Mono-life is just as fast AND has healing.
Mono-fire is just as fast AND has incredible permenant control.

The only thing Earth had going for it was graboids and they required 2 elements in order to play.

In fact, if you play Top50, you rarely come accross a deck using Graboids however, you WILL come across mono-Life and mono-Fire decks.   Further, those pure mono decks very often beat my upgraded Graboid deck.   

The only reason I use the Graboid deck is because it uses Mark of Time which synergizes with my Mark of Time Rainbow.   With this nerf, I'll just switch to the already superior mono-life or fire and just have to suck up the 100 electrum to switch marks.

This game suffers from a disturbing lack of deck diversity and this change will just make this worse. 




Robsta43

  • Guest
Re: Elements 1.21 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4066.msg39788#msg39788
« Reply #33 on: March 17, 2010, 02:08:36 pm »
The advantage of graboid decks is that they can stand up to otyghs better.  I don't think this made them overpowered but... on the bright side it'll make Rainbow weaker. 

Looking at these nurfs I think the 3rd hardest false god (as I rate them) will get quite the nuke and might even be beetable. 

sunday

  • Guest
Re: Elements 1.21 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4066.msg39791#msg39791
« Reply #34 on: March 17, 2010, 02:24:09 pm »
i like the new Thorn Shield for life :D

Offline BluePriest

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 3771
  • Reputation Power: 46
  • BluePriest is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.BluePriest is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.BluePriest is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.BluePriest is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.BluePriest is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.BluePriest is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.BluePriest is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.BluePriest is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.BluePriest is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.
  • Entropy Has You
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 5th Birthday Cake
Re: Elements 1.21 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4066.msg39797#msg39797
« Reply #35 on: March 17, 2010, 03:21:36 pm »
I cant wait until this goes into beta so we can try it out.
This sig was interrupted by Joe Biden

 

blarg: