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Re: A few details about T500 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg350257#msg350257
« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2011, 11:50:28 PM »
THIS IS GOING TO BE AWESOME!!!!!

Btw, if this is the right place for feedback, I'd like to see 2xMark and 2xDeck as separate options, to potentially increase the challenge. It's a pity that with score having a real meaning we'll probably see a rise in the amount of hackers, but oh well.

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Re: A few details about T500 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg350258#msg350258
« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2011, 11:51:09 PM »
Unless the player is level 80, FGs are mechanically tougher than T500 decks. I think he said that a certain number of consecutive wins would allow for spins with only rare cards on them, as far as rewards go.
Well, the top50 are well within the score range (myself included) that would have mid-60s for points (at 230k I'd be at 68 on that chart, and I am not in the end of week t50).  So probably 15-20% are going to be 60+ points.

In my case, 68 cards buys me: 2xdraw, 3x mark, and 36 upgrades + 2 oracle upgrades and 180hp.  That's about and 20hp short of an fg, and if that wasn't limited to 2x I have enough points to go beyond that also with minor adjustments.  So yeah, maybe not as tough as fg's mechanically on average, but fairly close.  Toss in a couple hourglasses and they might give rainbow a run for the money though.  Also, it's not like fg's use sog's, but you can bet 7/10 t500 will be and the ones that don't will be more lethal without em.

I'm picturing this like being a list of the fg's, without the fun ones.  I don't think anyone is going to make a the sort of decks like Neptune that are both easy and spin enough rewards to make fg's worthwhile. 

I didn't know what the reward was, so if it ends up being for upgraded cards or something like you say, it might end up being worth it.  But the unupped cards will have to be converted to upped during spins, or you'll end up with the same spin problems that half-bloods have.  Even then, I'm not sure rare spins every time would be worth anything if people use decks without 6 copies of cards.  A 60 card deck with 15 different cards in it isn't going to spin anything, rare or not.  We know from existing t50 that if you want people to actually spin things on a regular basis, you want to have 4 card types or less in a deck.  We see that with the fg's as well.  The good fg's spin wise don't have many types of cards at all.  I'm thinking most of these t500 won't be structured in a way that actually gives good spins.  That might not end up being the reward it was intended to be.

Now, it might be different for new players who don't have a full set of shards/rares and have nowhere else to get them.  To me, fg's/t50/t500 is just electrum, so maybe that taints my view.  I'm also assuming here that the t500 will be motivated/required to make decks designed to kill.  I take it all back if they end up putting the same sort of farms up.

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Re: A few details about T500 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg350266#msg350266
« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2011, 12:29:10 AM »
I'm looking forward to this like you can't believe.  I've been practicing my ultimate evil FG-deck building, and at Level 78, I can totally build 48-card FG decks.  It's the 'make money while you sleep' part that I'm looking forward to. :)
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Re: A few details about T500 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg350267#msg350267
« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2011, 12:31:13 AM »
I assume that we need the actual cards for the decks?

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Re: A few details about T500 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg350271#msg350271
« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2011, 12:40:54 AM »
I assume that we need the actual cards for the decks?
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Re: A few details about T500 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg350282#msg350282
« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2011, 12:58:05 AM »
What are the four different leagues for? Say my score puts me in Silver League. When I play against T500, do I only fight against decks from other Silver League players, or what?


 



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Re: A few details about T500 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg350284#msg350284
« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2011, 01:03:31 AM »
Your deck, to stay in t500, needs to be one of the top 500 decks in the silver league.

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Re: A few details about T500 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg350288#msg350288
« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2011, 01:08:12 AM »
I'm pretty certain that you choose one of the four different leagues after selecting the T500 and then are matched up against a deck from that league. Decks are in different leagues depending on their level.

Edit: Found the thread (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,17265.0.html) with all the T500 information.
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Re: A few details about T500 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg350361#msg350361
« Reply #32 on: June 13, 2011, 04:02:00 AM »
This looks super badass and I'm stoked for it.
Wonder how much of a factor AI quality will be.
As in, decks that are built such that the AI knows how to play them well will do better, right?

Also, if you spin the oracle again do you have to build a new deck?

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Re: A few details about T500 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg350363#msg350363
« Reply #33 on: June 13, 2011, 04:05:15 AM »
T500 looks amazing!

Thanks for the feedback and all your hard work.
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Re: A few details about T500 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg350367#msg350367
« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2011, 04:31:59 AM »
Awesome!

Looking forward to it ^^.

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Re: A few details about T500 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg350369#msg350369
« Reply #35 on: June 13, 2011, 04:46:29 AM »
when can we play on the t500  ;D :life :life :life because it looks very good  but i am a real gamer ,so  i cannot wait

 

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